Which head coach opening is most attractive?

Gotta be Vikings, right? This guy agrees: 

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2021/12/28/vikings-named-the-best-potential-head-coaching-opening/

to quote Parcells......the job where...”If they want you to cook the meal, then at least help buy the groceries”

When head coaching vacancies emerged at USC and LSU this past fall, Matt Rhule told his Panthers’ players he could get one of the top college jobs and make more money but he wanted to be with them in Charlotte. Rhule’s comments, made during a team meeting, presumably were meant to assure his players of his belief in what he calls “the process,” which has come under increasing fire as the Panthers have lost 21 of 31 games under Rhule’s tenure.
Rhule was hired in Carolina in 2020 after overseeing quick turnarounds at Temple and Baylor, but sources say owner David Tepper is unhappy and embarrassed after the $16 billion hedge fund manager gave Rhule a seven-year, $62 million deal to outbid the New York Giants for his services. Tepper apparently plans to give Rhule a third year, with Rhule saying this week the owner had privately expressed “nothing but confidence about me and the future and moving forward.” But the three-month collapse after a 3-0 start has tested everyone’s patience, with one Panthers source characterizing the team’s regression in Rhule’s second season as “a clusterfuck.”
A 32-6 loss to Tampa Bay last weekend matched the largest margin of defeat in his two seasons, but Rhule said his process is “1,000 percent working,” even if the results don’t show it. There is growing skepticism among some Panthers players about whether that’s the case. Many of the 20-plus players, staffers, team and league sources interviewed for this story believe the same attributes that made Rhule a successful college coach are undermining his efforts in the NFL.

Another potential opening.

I hope Zimmer is done but not really sure it will happen.  Don't think the Wilfs have made a decision yet and with the way this year has played out with Covid and injuries, wouldn't be surprised if he is given one last chance.  But it also may mean changes to the coaching staff, somebody will take the blame for this year.  Just a feeling

Not as many openings as I once estimated/anticipated.  Flores has righted the ship in Miami, and I am not sure about Culley with the Texans.  Also, the Raiders are still in a long shot playoff hunt with their interim.  

The Broncos ironically with Paton are in a similar position as the Vikings in terms of HC.  Fangio is an old-time defensive guru who seems to only be able to coach up that side of the ball but he is just finishing up his 3rd year so not sure what Paton will do.  Paton inherited him so there is that.  I also think the Broncos/Paton were, and still are, all in on getting Rodgers so Paton may think that will cure all ills on that side of the ball.  Of course, I would love for Rodgers to move out of GB but I am starting to think Rodgers will stay/extend because there is a very good chance, they win the SB (F***k).

So, like Paton/Fangio we might hang on for.....1 more year of Zimmer ball and finish out the contract!  

Of course, I am not for that at all.

Last year, there were 7 new coaches and 7 new GM's.

This offseason does not look as busy on either front.

Likely need new HC - Jags, Bears, Giants

60/40 need - Vikings, Raiders

50/50 - Broncos, Texans, Panthers

If all of those teams' positions become open, I would think the Broncos, Vikings and Bears are the best available.  

Yah @Minny, I'm not sure Rogers is going anywhere anymore...

Pack fans I talk to (the few smart ones) know the chances of landing a 3rd HOF Qb in a row are remote and want him back. 

They're fine with shipping off Love to anyone for anything. 

I think what makes the Vikings attractive is that it is a first class organization in terms of ownership and facilities.  From a players standpoint, I think a coach has to start with the future of the QB position, because ultimately that is going to determine his success.  From that standpoint I think our position becomes less attractive, because the answer is not on the current roster, so the ownership would need to convince them they have the means to make it happen by trade or draft.  

In an attempt to learn from the recent past for our next HC:

Jags - college ranks Urban Meyer - embarrassment
Bears - Nagy from Andy Reid coaching tree, was Coach of the Year in first year 12-4, considered creative offensive mind.  Finishing up his 4th season.  
Giants - Judge from the Patriots/Belichick coaching tree - hired two years ago with background of ST/WR coach...not OC.  Finishing up his second year.

@"minny65" said: In an attempt to learn from the recent past for our next HC:

Jags - college ranks Urban Meyer - embarrassment
Bears - Nagy from Andy Reid coaching tree, was Coach of the Year in first year 12-4, considered creative offensive mind.  Finishing up his 4th season.  
Giants - Judge from the Patriots/Belichick coaching tree - hired two years ago with background of ST/WR coach...not OC.  Finishing up his second year.

Players make the coaches in the nfl...

It so simple; gotta get the trenches right, acquire a few skill players and then the right QB. 

TB, GB, Chiefs and Rams are the models. Ok, the Rams are a bit funky with their "all in" mentality but you get the drift. All of em have HOF QB's with the exception of Stafford.  

What's remarkable is that we've already beaten the Packers and the Rams really wanted us to win that one too. 

Bears will be most attractive. QB with potential, good defense, big market. Only problem is the GM stinks. But if he’s out that problem goes away. 

Jags next as they have Lawrence, high draft picks, and patient ownership. 

I think Vikings slot in third ahead of Broncos, NYG, Raiders.

We have patient ownership with weapons on offense but no clear longterm QB and a bad defense. One could make the argument we’re better than JAX, depending on the thoughts on Lawrence.

Broncos obviously jump to #1 if they get Rodgers. But in that case he’s probably picking his coach. 

@"pattersaur" said: Bears will be most attractive. QB with potential, good defense, big market. Only problem is the GM stinks. But if he’s out that problem goes away. 

Jags next as they have Lawrence, high draft picks, and patient ownership. 

I think Vikings slot in third ahead of Broncos, NYG, Raiders.

We have patient ownership with weapons on offense but no clear longterm QB and a bad defense. One could make the argument we’re better than JAX, depending on the thoughts on Lawrence.

Broncos obviously jump to #1 if they get Rodgers. But in that case he’s probably picking his coach. 

I was going to put Bears #1 as well...

They got them some dogs on D (even with Hicks gone thank god) and Fields with all his potential and a rookie contract. Plus Chicago is a great sports town - and Rogers cant play forever. 

A few mo ago I would have placed $$ on Rogers a Bronco next year. Now I dont see him leaving GB. 

Jags is the #1 job. Trevor Lawrence, some good young players, and an ownership that's not afraid to spend and win at all costs. 

@"supafreak84" said: Jags is the #1 job. Trevor Lawrence, some good young players, and an ownership that's not afraid to spend and win at all costs. 

Nope. Kahn and Baalke make this the least desirable. Quinn already turned them down. It's a complete shitshow in Duval

@"JustinTime18™" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Jags is the #1 job. Trevor Lawrence, some good young players, and an ownership that's not afraid to spend and win at all costs. 

Nope. Kahn and Baalke make this the least desirable. Quinn already turned them down. It's a complete shitshow in Duval

@"supafreak84" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Jags is the #1 job. Trevor Lawrence, some good young players, and an ownership that's not afraid to spend and win at all costs. 

Nope. Kahn and Baalke make this the least desirable. Quinn already turned them down. It's a complete shitshow in Duval

I still think it's hugely desirable from a roster perspective and for the state of Florida itself. Good weather and that whole no state income tax thing is going to put more money in your pockets. 

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Jags is the #1 job. Trevor Lawrence, some good young players, and an ownership that's not afraid to spend and win at all costs. 

Nope. Kahn and Baalke make this the least desirable. Quinn already turned them down. It's a complete shitshow in Duval

I still think it's hugely desirable from a roster perspective and for the state of Florida itself. Good weather and that whole no state income tax thing is going to put more money in your pockets. 

Roster perspective on offense, yes. On defense, they are 27th in PPG and rank near the bottom in most defensive categories. They have been wiped clean from that AFCCG run that was quite the outlier. Ownership is quite dysfunctional and it almost feels like they would rather be the London Jaguars

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/trent-baalke-jacksonville-jaguars-retain

The decision will reportedly have a profound impact (AKA a negative one) on Jacksonville's search for a new head coach. Baalke has been described as difficult to work with in the past and few coaching candidates will be attracted to a destination that already has a below-average general manager in place. Baalke's track record when it comes to hiring head coaches is rather pitiful too. He undeniably landed a winner when he originally lured Jim Harbaugh from Stanford in San Francisco, but the two quickly clashed and eventually parted ways. Baalke was largely blamed for driving away one of the game’s most impressive and successful coaches at the time. 
Baalke then stunningly appointed Jim Tomsula, who finished 5-11 in his lone season as head coach while looking dutifully unprepared to lead a franchise. Baalke then went for another splash hire by anointing Chip Kelly as the savior. It was somehow an even bigger disaster than the Tomsula hiring. Kelly went 2-14 in his one-and-done season and Baalke was quickly fired (alongside Kelly). It's a stretch of failures that should put Khan on high alert but has dumbfoundingly done the opposite.

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Jags is the #1 job. Trevor Lawrence, some good young players, and an ownership that's not afraid to spend and win at all costs. 

Nope. Kahn and Baalke make this the least desirable. Quinn already turned them down. It's a complete shitshow in Duval

I still think it's hugely desirable from a roster perspective and for the state of Florida itself. Good weather and that whole no state income tax thing is going to put more money in your pockets. 

Roster perspective on offense, yes. On defense, they are 27th in PPG and rank near the bottom in most defensive categories. They have been wiped clean from that AFCCG run that was quite the outlier. Ownership is quite dysfunctional and it almost feels like they would rather be the London Jaguars

I think that makes it even more attractive. The Jags are projected to have the 3rd most cap space to spend in free agency and if you are already solid on offense with a franchise QB already in place, it makes it easy to throw that money amd upcoming draft picks towards the defensive side of the ball. If I'm a young, upcoming head coach...I'd take the Jags job over almost probably all of them 

Simply looking at Baalke’s track record in the NFL, leaves a lot to be desired. While he was the GM with the San Francisco 49ers from 2011-2016, the franchise went to three straight championship games and one Super Bowl. The success would end there, however.
In those three seasons, Baalke was unable to build a roster that could have sustained success. In the three failed seasons following, resulting in a 15-32 record, that much would be realized and Baalke was let go, along with the third head coach of his regime, Chip Kelly.
From 2011-16, Baalke drafted just three Pro Bowl players, defensive end Aldon Smith (2012), defensive tackle DeForest Buckner (2018) and safety Eric Reid (2013). In fact, of the 61 players that Baalke selected from 2011-16, just three remain on the roster today: S Jaquiski Tartt (2015), DL Arik Armstead (2015) and S Jimmie Ward (2014).
Those classes included seven first-round picks and six second-round picks.
His free-agent classes left much to be desired, too.
With the Jaguars, Baalke became the team’s permanent GM, hired alongside Meyer to lead the ship. Still, the team has suffered in his first season, going 2-13. Baalke was also a part of the team’s worst record. 1-15, in team history as the director of player personnel through much of 2020.
Outside of Lawrence and CB Tyson Campbell, the Jaguars’ rookie class this season hasn’t made much of an impact.
Second-round pick LT Walker Little has played just 110 snaps, third-round pick S Andre Cisco has played just 123 (season-high 28 snaps in each of the past two weeks with RayShawn Jenkins on IR), fourth-round picks DT Jay Tufele (six snaps) and Jordan Smith (0) have barely seen the field.

Fifth-round pick TE Luke Farrell has played 188 snaps and sixth-round pick WR Jalen Camp didn’t make the opening-day 53-man roster.
Baalke’s reputation certainly precedes him.
As former MercuryNews columnist Tim Kawakami, now with The Athletic, put it in his piece shortly following Baalke and Jim Harbaugh’s breakup, the GM simply is all football, all the time.
That can lead to plenty of broken relationships over a simple disagreement; that makes it tough to cultivate the relationships necessary to run an NFL franchise.
“Football is the only thing for both men,” Kawakami said about both Baalke and Harbaugh, “ “and when they begin to disagree on football matters, even the littlest things become epic battlegrounds and the guy who loses the battle remembers it forever, so it only builds towards the next battle and the next one.”