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I think the fact that we have completely removed God from public schools contributes to the poor mental health of our children.
— Matt Birk (@BirkMatt) December 28, 2021
....says the guy that went to a private Catholic high school in St. Paul. And then Harvard. Very in touch with the pulse of today's public schools.
He wants to simplify something that is complicated while stigmatizing it at the same time.
@"greediron" said: Hate it when people have opinionsWe all have them, some better than others. I guess we aren't supposed to disagree?
@"StickyBun" said:@"greediron" said: Hate it when people have opinions We all have them, some better than others. I guess we aren't supposed to disagree?
No, we disagree quite agreeably.Really miss Birk, a great center and a class guy.
Over 4,000 religions in the world....
But mine is the right one.
Having taught for a long time, I can tell you how critical it is to keep religion, politics, and gender identification out of the classroom.
Perhaps the focus should be critical thinking, problem solving and reasoning
I grew up in Mpls, started school there over 50 years ago and don't remember any religion being taught at all, unless "under god" in the pledge of allegiance counts. Matt Birk is peddling baloney.
@"Vanguard83" said: Over 4,000 religions in the world....But mine is the right one.
Having taught for a long time, I can tell you how critical it is to keep religion, politics, and gender identification out of the classroom.
Perhaps the focus should be critical thinking, problem solving and reasoning
Amen.
@"comet52" said: I grew up in Mpls, started school there over 50 years ago and don't remember any religion being taught at all, unless "under god" in the pledge of allegiance counts. Matt Birk is peddling baloney.
I agree; Matt should come forward and explain when religion was first introduced into public education. Then, he should read the Constitution.
@"VikingOracle" said:@"comet52" said: I grew up in Mpls, started school there over 50 years ago and don't remember any religion being taught at all, unless "under god" in the pledge of allegiance counts. Matt Birk is peddling baloney.
I agree; Matt should come forward and explain when religion was first introduced into public education. Then, he should read the Constitution.
Tone deaf by Birk.
@"Vanguard83" said: Over 4,000 religions in the world....But mine is the right one.
Having taught for a long time, I can tell you how critical it is to keep religion, politics, and gender identification out of the classroom.
Perhaps the focus should be critical thinking, problem solving and reasoning
Obviously you are an academic who believes in Science!
Could be a compliment or a put down depending on your political view and news sources :)
@"Vanguard83" said: Over 4,000 religions in the world....But mine is the right one.
Having taught for a long time, I can tell you how critical it is to keep religion, politics, and gender identification out of the classroom.
Perhaps the focus should be critical thinking, problem solving and reasoning
Not that I disagree, but how has that been working out lately?
IMO government run education is the issue. What the govt funds, the govt controls. And the govt only cares about more govt.
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can somebody please call Birk a "cracker", so we can check Race off the do not discuss on this board list, to complete the trifecta?
@"JimmyinSD" said: Politics Check Religion Check can somebody please call Birk a "cracker", so we can check Race off the do not discuss on this board list, to complete the trifecta?
He’s a:sidewinding, bushwhacking, hornswoggling, cracker croaker! :p
I find it impossible to believe a well educated man would say something so incredibly stupid. Are we sure he wasn't hacked?
@"greediron" said:@"Vanguard83" said: Over 4,000 religions in the world....But mine is the right one.
Having taught for a long time, I can tell you how critical it is to keep religion, politics, and gender identification out of the classroom.
Perhaps the focus should be critical thinking, problem solving and reasoning
Not that I disagree, but how has that been working out lately?IMO government run education is the issue. What the govt funds, the govt controls. And the govt only cares about more govt.
I can make the opposite argument. We have had the best educational system in the world until recently when politics/government started to starve it (beginning with teachers' salaries). Think bout how many kids were in a class while you were growing up and compare it to today. JMHO.
@"Kentis" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Politics Check Religion Check can somebody please call Birk a "cracker", so we can check Race off the do not discuss on this board list, to complete the trifecta?He’s a:sidewinding, bushwhacking, hornswoggling, cracker croaker! :p
“Now who can argue with that!”
“I think we are all indebted to Gabby Johnson for clearly stating what needed to be said””RABBIDD!”
@"greediron" said:@"Vanguard83" said: Over 4,000 religions in the world....But mine is the right one.
Having taught for a long time, I can tell you how critical it is to keep religion, politics, and gender identification out of the classroom.
Perhaps the focus should be critical thinking, problem solving and reasoning
Not that I disagree, but how has that been working out lately?IMO government run education is the issue. What the govt funds, the govt controls. And the govt only cares about more govt.
Oddly enough schools are now adopting “Social Emotional Learning” programs.
Programs like “Second Step”.These are online lessons districts now subscribe to in order to teach things like self-esteem, cooperation, team building, positive thinking, gender, race, religious equity,
breaking “vicious cycles”, coping skills, etc. They have scenarios for each skill, and students are shown examples of appropriate responses. Ethics based questions - What would you do if.....(There is a new student in your class and they dont know where to go for lunch....What are different ways to deal with someone who is bullying you or a friend)Naturally there have been SOME teacher backlash, but I say if it helps just ONE KID in each class, then its worth it. Frankly, Id rather a student have coping skills and a positive self image then know the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
@"StickyBun" said: ....says the guy that went to a private Catholic high school in St. Paul. And then Harvard. Very in touch with the pulse of today's public schools.
I'd counter with the notion that a guy that went to a private Catholic HS...might've noticed the difference in mental health amongst his private school peers vs public school peers, back then, and is now opining.
Its not implausible that being a product of private Christian education is a non-sequitur disqualifier on the subject, as you suggest.
Harvard, tho.
Harvard was begat as a very religious school.
Original motto: Truth (veritas) for Christ (christo) and the Church (ecclesiae)".
New motto "Veritas" (truth) << notice the drop of Christ and the Church.
Or maybe you were angling that "a smart guy/Viking that went to Harvard, should "know better"".
Regardless, disqualifying Birk's opinions because of his background is as "tone deaf" as you make his post to be.
@"VikingOracle" said:@"comet52" said: I grew up in Mpls, started school there over 50 years ago and don't remember any religion being taught at all, unless "under god" in the pledge of allegiance counts. Matt Birk is peddling baloney.
I agree; Matt should come forward and explain when religion was first introduced into public education. Then, he should read the Constitution.
Aha!
So I mark you down as a "strict Constitutionalist"? (ala Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett)
Or...is the Constitution a "living, breathing document?" (ala Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan...and sometimes Roberts)
Can we count on you as an advocate of "strict Constitutionalism" on every ensuing topic? :)The establishment clause..."the govt shall establish no religion"....where did citizen Birk's opinion say he supported the govt's "establishment" of (tacit) Christianity? No where.
Ya'll inferred it.
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