You'll lose players like Jefferson without a regime change

I'm thinking Vikings at Pack is going to look like WFT at Cowboys last night. 

We lost Percy Harvin and Diggs because of offensive complacency, JJ could be next. If we lose JJ, with Thielan another year older, our WR corps could take a serius hit. 

Frankly, I think one of the most important factors that the Wilfs will look at is the fan base engagement.  From what I hear, the stadium was not electric on Sunday -- were there a lot of Rams fans there (not buying Viking souvenir?)  You look at this board and its lack of overall engagement.  I am sure the Wilfs have all that data -- souvenir sales, dau on vikings.com, etc.  and I am sure the numbers are dismal.  Time to move on and bring some excitement back to the team.

As I posted earlier this year, this not a very lovable team.  Now, with players getting frustrated, it is less lovable.  Fears of losing stars is a bad sign.

Short of Red McCombs requiring the team, Jefferson is going no where. C'mon.

How far away is this team though? Dallas was awful past year and a couple tweaks, a good draft, and getting key players healthy...and bam. We've always been at least competitive under Zimmer. I'm for the change at this point, but bringing in a completely new regime takes time to build. I just wonder if you gave Zim and Spielman one more season if they could right the ship. 

@"supafreak84" said: How far away is this team though? Dallas was awful past year and a couple tweaks, a good draft, and getting key players healthy...and bam. We've always been at least competitive under Zimmer. I'm for the change at this point, but bringing in a completely new regime takes time to build. I just wonder if you gave Zim and Spielman one more season if they could right the ship. 

To me its the lack of energy on the sidelines. The lack of adjustments. The lack of doing what working and not doing whats not. 

Ive been a Zimmer fan for a long time, but even Im done. 

I don't think it's regime change, but lack of winning.  I think if you bring in a different coach, but we keep losing, those players are still going to want out, but maybe you bought one extra year of their attention.  I think you get maybe 2 years of a young players attention, and around year 3 they start to realise how short their career is actually going to be, and then at some point they'll realize that almost every team sucks unless they have an elite QB.

Better yet, how do you fix it? Cousins and his contract always becomes a sticky situation. We will be up against the cap again and some hard decisions will need to be made. I'm assuming Barr won't be back. I'll fall into the trap once again in looking forward to Irv Smith coming back. Biggest needs next season;

1. Cornerback
2. Right guard 
3. Center
4. Quarterback?

I don't know. I dont think we are terribly far away from being division favorites again, especially with the impending departure of Aaron Rodgers. Kirk Cousins could easily be the best QB in the division next season. It's not improbable to think with a couple tweaks and a good off-season that we could win 12 or 13 games next season.

I'm really on the fence about tearing this whole thing down and starting over 

It is pretty concerning to hear JJ talk about walking into the locker room and feeling a complete lack of energy and then saying they played with no energy as well.  Team was in the driver's seat for a playoff spot, playing at home against a team they were very capable of beating and they looked to be going through the motions.  Where is the leadership on this team?  Seems like we are headed for Diggs part 2. 

@"supafreak84" said: Better yet, how do you fix it? Cousins and his contract always becomes a sticky situation. We will be up against the cap again and some hard decisions will need to be made. I'm assuming Barr won't be back. I'll fall into the trap once again in looking forward to Irv Smith coming back. Biggest needs next season;

1. Cornerback
2. Right guard 
3. Center
4. Quarterback?

Agreed with you on the needs (need a back-up QB in training next year), but seriously, how many seasons do we go into the off-season with the exact same list of needs.  The #1 need is a glaring indictment of the CB whisperer himself - Zimsu.  How much draft capital and free agency money has been thrown at these positions with so little to show for it.  That is a glaring indictment of our GM.  To me, that clears up any fence-sitting about what needs to be done.

@"JoDakota" said: We lost Percy Harvin and Diggs because of offensive complacency, JJ could be next. If we lose JJ, with Thielan another year older, our WR corps could take a serius hit. 

I thought we lost them because they were not team players?

@"JustinTime18™" said: Short of Red McCombs requiring the team, Jefferson is going no where. C'mon.

When I say 'lose', I mean mentally. He's not going anywhere obviously. But Diggs forced his way out and although I don't see Jefferson as a diva, he could still be disgruntled.