Thielen

It's time to start thinking about it that's for sure 

@"Hawkvike25" said: I hate saying this because I love Thielen, but I think it’s time to really start considering finding his replacement. I thought the Vikes had more time but I’m not so sure anymore

why?  because he has been injured?  the man has 24 TDs in the last two seasons. If anything he deserves a better team. Let him go win a Super Bowl

@"Skodin" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said: I hate saying this because I love Thielen, but I think it’s time to really start considering finding his replacement. I thought the Vikes had more time but I’m not so sure anymore

why?  because he has been injured?  the man has 24 TDs in the last two seasons. If anything he deserves a better team. Let him go win a Super Bowl

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"Skodin" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said: I hate saying this because I love Thielen, but I think it’s time to really start considering finding his replacement. I thought the Vikes had more time but I’m not so sure anymore

why?  because he has been injured?  the man has 24 TDs in the last two seasons. If anything he deserves a better team. Let him go win a Super Bowl

Find value instead of hanging on too long. Definitely something to consider.

Thielen was the one guy gutting it out today and giving it his all, if the rest of the team played as hard we would have won this game.  Lost a lot of respect for him this year by not getting vexed, but I give him credit he has been bringing it every play.  Most guys would not tried playing today and would have stayed on the sidelines after limping off, but he kept getting himself back on the field.  He is not losing the #2 spot any time soon.  

I think they definitely have to think about adding another WR with #2 potential to play with JJ. But I do expect AT back another season, maybe 2? 

@"JR44" said: Thielen was the one guy gutting it out today and giving it his all, if the rest of the team played as hard we would have won this game.  Lost a lot of respect for him this year by not getting vexed, but I give him credit he has been bringing it every play.  Most guys would not tried playing today and would have stayed on the sidelines after limping off, but he kept getting himself back on the field.  He is not losing the #2 spot any time soon.  

He definitely brings it every game, but Jefferson had a nice game as well. Adam gets a lot of TD's but has missed a lot of playing time the last 3 years and with him being 32 next year I dont think it would be bad to consider evaluating him on the team. It doesnt have to be this offseason or next year, but if he misses multiple games in a row next year then that should be the deciding factor

We have a lot of other problems to solve before I even think about Thielen's progression planning.  Thielen is an expert route runner who is very QB friendly.  Watching the Browns horrible WR core last night combined with a youngish QB makes one realize that Thielen is a huge asset especially if we have a new QB.   

@"JR44" said: Thielen was the one guy gutting it out today and giving it his all, if the rest of the team played as hard we would have won this game.  Lost a lot of respect for him this year by not getting vexed, but I give him credit he has been bringing it every play.  Most guys would not tried playing today and would have stayed on the sidelines after limping off, but he kept getting himself back on the field.  He is not losing the #2 spot any time soon.  

I am curious how you measured this. I saw a guy playing hard and frustrated he could not do more because of his injury. That does not say his team mates were not playing hard.

@"minny65" said: We have a lot of other problems to solve before I even think about Thielen's progression planning.  Thielen is an expert route runner who is very QB friendly.  Watching the Browns horrible WR core last night combined with a youngish QB makes one realize that Thielen is a huge asset especially if we have a new QB.   

He is, but if he continues to miss multiple games and is then 32 he may not be as efficient. The team does have other problems that are a bigger priority, I agree, so maybe they trade down this year to pick up another draft pick and maybe its a guy in the second or third round to start grooming. Julio Jones and AJ Green are right around Thielen’s age and their decline has been quick, so I’m just saying he’s someone the team should monitor. 

Cutting him next year would free up about $5.8 mil from the cap, but would leave about $11 mil dead.  Cutting him in 2023 frees up $11 mil and leaves about $6 mil in dead cap.  Short of a trade, I'd bring him back one more year.  Not that anyone is really saying cut him out right, but I thought we had an out in his contract, but it doesn't appear that we do. 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/adam-thielen-13071/

@"El_Padre" said:

Cutting him next year would free up about $5.8 mil from the cap, but would leave about $11 mil dead.  Cutting him in 2023 frees up $11 mil and leaves about $6 mil in dead cap.  Short of a trade, I'd bring him back one more year.  Not that anyone is really saying cut him out right, but I thought we had an out in his contract, but it doesn't appear that we do. 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/adam-thielen-13071/

Thanks for looking that up. No way would I say cut him…just saying maybe there’s a team that would give a nice return via trade. I dont know when it would be but it wouldnt hurt to see what the offers are sooner rather than later

Post June 1st cut would net $12.645 million in savings, $4.3 in dead cap. Certainly not washed but is a prime candidate for renegotiation. 

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"El_Padre" said:

Cutting him next year would free up about $5.8 mil from the cap, but would leave about $11 mil dead.  Cutting him in 2023 frees up $11 mil and leaves about $6 mil in dead cap.  Short of a trade, I'd bring him back one more year.  Not that anyone is really saying cut him out right, but I thought we had an out in his contract, but it doesn't appear that we do. 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/adam-thielen-13071/

Thanks for looking that up. No way would I say cut him…just saying maybe there’s a team that would give a nice return via trade. I dont know when it would be but it wouldnt hurt to see what the offers are sooner rather than later

@"mblack" said:

@"JR44" said: Thielen was the one guy gutting it out today and giving it his all, if the rest of the team played as hard we would have won this game.  Lost a lot of respect for him this year by not getting vexed, but I give him credit he has been bringing it every play.  Most guys would not tried playing today and would have stayed on the sidelines after limping off, but he kept getting himself back on the field.  He is not losing the #2 spot any time soon.  

I am curious how you measured this. I saw a guy playing hard and frustrated he could not do more because of his injury. That does not say his team mates were not playing hard.