Giving up on Mayfield already?
https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/12/24/deshaun-watson-rumors-browns-player-breer-legal-issues-allegations
Probably going to be a lot of QB movement this offseason. In addition to Watson and Mayfield, Rodgers is probably going to the Broncos, meaning Teddy is going elsewhere. Maybe the Steelers since Ben is done. Will the Vikings move on from Cousins? Not likely but it's possible. Jimmy G's likely done in San Francisco. Russell Wilson and Derek Carr could be moving on as well.
@"MaroonBells" said: Probably going to be a lot of QB movement this offseason. In addition to Watson and Mayfield, Rodgers is probably going to the Broncos, meaning Teddy is going elsewhere. Maybe the Steelers since Ben is done. Will the Vikings move on from Cousins? Not likely but it's possible. Jimmy G's likely done in San Francisco. Russell Wilson and Derek Carr could be moving on as well.Teddy would make a great backup, if he gets another starting gig somewhere it'll be a head scratcher. I do agree there'll be some movement, but this kind of thing is always overhyped by the media. Let's see what actually ends up happening.
@"StickyBun" said:Depends on what happens with his concussion, but if he checks out (and still wants to play), no doubt he'll get starter attention, and starter money too.@"MaroonBells" said: Probably going to be a lot of QB movement this offseason. In addition to Watson and Mayfield, Rodgers is probably going to the Broncos, meaning Teddy is going elsewhere. Maybe the Steelers since Ben is done. Will the Vikings move on from Cousins? Not likely but it's possible. Jimmy G's likely done in San Francisco. Russell Wilson and Derek Carr could be moving on as well. Teddy would make a great backup, if he gets another starting gig somewhere it'll be a head scratcher. I do agree there'll be some movement, but this kind of thing is always overhyped by the media. Let's see what actually ends up happening.
“Already”? Baker is in his 4th season and has 13 tds and 7 ints. If the Browns move on from him it’s not like they haven’t given him a fair shake.
Landry is ok but their WRs aren’t great. If they made a deal for Wilson I assume they’d sign a FA WR or 2 also.
I'm in the minority , Watsons playing days are over. .....
Imo his legal problems aren't gonna go away. Or be cleared up in 2022.
@"Mattyman" said: I'm in the minority , Watsons playing days are over. .....Imo his legal problems aren't gonna go away. Or be cleared up in 2022.
I want nothing to do with that POS. 4 interceptions by Mayfield. Absolutely putrid.
@"Vikergirl" said:@"Mattyman" said: I'm in the minority , Watsons playing days are over. .....Imo his legal problems aren't gonna go away. Or be cleared up in 2022.
I want nothing to do with that POS. 4 interceptions by Mayfield. Absolutely putrid.
Once again the Packers got every call and non-call. The last Int was a clear pass interference, and they were only 15 yards from a game winning FG attempt. The first Int was also PI earlier in the route as they showed on replay.Aikman was interesting during the broadcast because he mentioned more than once that he couldn't tell how the WR's were coached on some of Mayfield's throws because they weren't off by much and it was a difference of whether the WR's are coached to break to the sideline (flatten out) or stretch upfield and that was the difference on many many throws. Doesn't help that Mayfield has missed a lot of practice and also has had numerous WR's. The Odell controversy really threw shade on Mayfield and the WR core by all reports. The WR core sided with Odell. The team shipped him out asap. Stefanski has done a good job this year despite these factors and the fact that Mayfield has not been 100% since about week 3.
All that and the Browns were basically one PI call and a made FG from winning in GB with poor QB play.
It will be an interesting offseason in Cleveland. The Browns have a tough decision to make at QB.
@"minny65" said:@"Vikergirl" said:@"Mattyman" said: I'm in the minority , Watsons playing days are over. .....Imo his legal problems aren't gonna go away. Or be cleared up in 2022.
I want nothing to do with that POS. 4 interceptions by Mayfield. Absolutely putrid.
Once again the Packers got every call and non-call. The last Int was a clear pass interference, and they were only 15 yards from a game winning FG attempt. The first Int was also PI earlier in the route as they showed on replay.Aikman was interesting during the broadcast because he mentioned more than once that he couldn't tell how the WR's were coached on some of Mayfield's throws because they weren't off by much and it was a difference of whether the WR's are coached to break to the sideline (flatten out) or stretch upfield and that was the difference on many many throws. Doesn't help that Mayfield has missed a lot of practice and also has had numerous WR's. The Odell controversy really threw shade on Mayfield and the WR core by all reports. The WR core sided with Odell. The team shipped him out asap. Stefanski has done a good job this year despite these factors and the fact that Mayfield has not been 100% since about week 3.
All that and the Browns were basically one PI call and a made FG from winning in GB with poor QB play.
It will be an interesting offseason in Cleveland. The Browns have a tough decision to make at QB.
Of course Green Bay gets the calls. Ref ball is always going to help Green Bay.
Did you see the graphic comparing Favre and Rodgers TDs-INTs as Packers? LMAO at how many more INTs Favre had.
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3399474/there-needs-to-be-a-federal-investigation-into-how-the-referees-no-call-just-ended-the-browns-season
Is the NFL more like the WWE than we ever thought?
@"StickyBun" said: Did you see the graphic comparing Favre and Rodgers TDs-INTs as Packers? LMAO at how many more INTs Favre had.
Gunslinger vs Surgeon
The QB’s had two different playing styles. But both got it done.
Mayfield cant throw 4 picks in a key game like that. :#
@"StickyBun" said: https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3399474/there-needs-to-be-a-federal-investigation-into-how-the-referees-no-call-just-ended-the-browns-seasonIs the NFL more like the WWE than we ever thought?
The first interception was also very clear pass interference earlier in the route to People's as well.
But 2 of the 4 Int's were solely on Baker.
He does not have a good WR/TE core and I think Odell poisoned the well-water.
Dude must live under a rock and have missed the last hundred or so times the refs handed it to the Pack.
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