Let’s talk Wild card

The Viking's defense is not playoff caliber unfortunately. 29-0 and you almost lose that lead? Ridiculous. This might be Zimmer's dumbest group of DBs since he's been HC along with periods of zero pass rush by the D-line. Recipe for disaster. 

Prediction: win enough games to pick in the early 20s in the NFL draft but no playoffs. Great combo (eye roll).

@"Norse" said:

@"Zanary" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Norse" said: I hope we don’t make the playoffs. To much at stake draft wise.

Only a Viking fan could say something like this. 

No "fan" ever wants picks over wins.

This year I do...ready to move on from Zimmer.

@"Mattyman" said: Weasel into the playoffs @ 9-8 and wreck Dallas or Green Bay.

... and Zimmer still gets 86'd.

I have never been for losing or tanking just for draft position.  I think that is silly and very detrimental to the players/team mentality.  We all know the draft is a complete crap shoot even in the first round never mind later rounds.  If you fall in love with a certain player and you are picking 25 and you have to move up to 10 to get them then I support those type of gambles much more then tanking with your current team.  

Not sure what ends up happening but I hope no team with a losing record secures the last playoff spot. No team, in any sport, should be allowed into the playoffs with a losing record. Cant reward bad teams

@"Vanguard83" said: As usual, the stars will align..... The Vikings will go to the playoffs... Then at some point....

...lose in some new, inventive, and totally embarrassing way.

@"Hawkvike25" said: Not sure what ends up happening but I hope no team with a losing record secures the last playoff spot. No team, in any sport, should be allowed into the playoffs with a losing record. Cant reward bad teams

@"greediron" said:

@"Vanguard83" said: As usual, the stars will align..... The Vikings will go to the playoffs... Then at some point....

...lose in some new, inventive, and totally embarrassing way.

I was thinking more of a Nathan Poole moment, leaving the heartbreak on the doorstep of the playoffs.

@"Zanary" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Norse" said: I hope we don’t make the playoffs. To much at stake draft wise.

Only a Viking fan could say something like this. 

No "fan" ever wants picks over wins.

@"AGRforever" said:

@"Zanary" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Norse" said: I hope we don’t make the playoffs. To much at stake draft wise.

Only a Viking fan could say something like this. 

No "fan" ever wants picks over wins.

Guess I'm not a fan then.  If we do not have the ability to do anything in the playoffs then give me the better picks. 

It is unfortunate, because our offense is playoff caliber and can score big on anyone.  On defense our front 7 has shown promise with some of the young guys like Watts, Jones and Lynch and then obviously with Kendricks, so I think they could bring it in a playoff game, but our secondary is so bad, that any decent QB is going to pick them apart.  We have not had many great secondaries in our history and it has often been a weak spot, but I do not remember anything this bad in that it is just take your pick which guy is more wide open.  For his overall on and off the field performance, I think Breeland by far is the worst DB we have ever had.  

@"JR44" said: It is unfortunate, because our offense is playoff caliber and can score big on anyone.  On defense our front 7 has shown promise with some of the young guys like Watts, Jones and Lynch and then obviously with Kendricks, so I think they could bring it in a playoff game, but our secondary is so bad, that any decent QB is going to pick them apart.  We have not had many great secondaries in our history and it has often been a weak spot, but I do not remember anything this bad in that it is just take your pick which guy is more wide open.  For his overall on and off the field performance, I think Breeland by far is the worst DB we have ever had.  

https://purpleinsider.substack.com/p/whats-behind-the-secondary-struggles

a big reason the D has taken a bad turn.  That and Hunter collecting $$$ while not contributing.

@"Zanary" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Norse" said: I hope we don’t make the playoffs. To much at stake draft wise.

Only a Viking fan could say something like this. 

No "fan" ever wants picks over wins.

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"Zanary" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Norse" said: I hope we don’t make the playoffs. To much at stake draft wise.

Only a Viking fan could say something like this. 

No "fan" ever wants picks over wins.

Guess I'm not a fan then.  If we do not have the ability to do anything in the playoffs then give me the better picks. 

Personally, I really don't think the Viking will make the playoffs, but I always hope they win every game.  Even with their current record, I hope they win out...I don't worry or think about the draft or the team's position in the draft until it gets here.

I don't see how this defense beats either the Rams or Packers.  OTOH, if they don't sweep the Mack-less Bears, everybody needs to be fired.  On the spot.  From cannons.  Into brick walls.  So, 8-9 and once again we're hoping to strike lightning after the "blue chippers" are taken ahead of us .

@"AGRforever" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"Zanary" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Norse" said: I hope we don’t make the playoffs. To much at stake draft wise.

Only a Viking fan could say something like this. 

No "fan" ever wants picks over wins.

Guess I'm not a fan then.  If we do not have the ability to do anything in the playoffs then give me the better picks. 

Personally, I really don't think the Viking will make the playoffs, but I always hope they win every game.  Even with their current record, I hope they win out...I don't worry or think about the draft or the team's position in the draft until it gets here.

Meh, long term vs short term goals. 

@"Zanary" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Norse" said: I hope we don’t make the playoffs. To much at stake draft wise.

Only a Viking fan could say something like this. 

No "fan" ever wants picks over wins.

@"JoDakota" said:

@"Zanary" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Norse" said: I hope we don’t make the playoffs. To much at stake draft wise.

Only a Viking fan could say something like this. 

No "fan" ever wants picks over wins.

A "fan" wants what is best for his team. IMHO, that is firing Zimmer and Speilman, and starting the rebuild. If we muddle into the playoffs, and lose in grand fashion in round one and pick mid teens in the draft, that isn't good for this team, only slows down the start of the new reguime. Does anyone think this team can win the super bowl this year with this defense? 

I've been a die-hard "fan" all of my 59 years. I've seen so many heartbreaks over the years (you all can relate). Never seen a coach that is so stubborn, even when things aren't going well. I was a big fan when we hired ZIM, but last year I could see the game has past him by. I figure I got about 20 more years to live, let's get this rebuild started so I can see us get theat Super Bowl Trophy.

NFC playoff scenarios show big cost of Vikings loss to LionsHad Minnesota beaten the Lions a week ago, giving Detroit its only win of the season, the Vikings outlook would be significantly different right now.

The glass-is-half-full view of this Vikings season and their most recent effort against the Steelers is that even through all the ups and downs, Minnesota still controls its playoff destiny.
Win the last four games, and the Vikings are virtually guaranteed to make the postseason — a better than 99% chance, per FiveThirtyEight's projections.
As it stands now, the Vikings have a 33% chance to make the expanded seven-team NFC playoff field in this expanded 17-game season. Had Minnesota allowed Pittsburgh to come all the way back on Thursday, those odds would have been greatly diminished.
But the glass-is-half-empty view, which was more the rule than the exception on Monday's Daily Delivery podcast with Patrick Reusse, is that a glance at NFC playoff scenarios shows us more about how costly that loss two games ago to the Lions was than anything else.
FiveThirtyEight has this wonderful, frustrating tool that lets you plug in future outcomes for teams to see how wins and losses influence their playoff chances.
And for the Vikings, the difference between going 2-2 down the stretch and going 3-1 is massive.
If we plug in wins in the two games against the Bears — hardly guarantees but let's do it anyway — but losses to the Rams and Packers, the Vikings make the playoffs in just 8% of the scenarios while finishing 8-9.
But if we change just one outcome — a loss to the Rams becomes a win — the Vikings make the playoffs in 80% of scenarios while finishing 9-8.
While such a finish is still very much within the Vikings' reach, they would be 7-6 right now had they made one more play against the lowly Lions. And a 2-2 finish over their final four games — requiring just two wins over the dismal Bears — probably would have pushed the Vikings into the playoffs.
Controlling one's destiny without much margin for error is a dicey proposition. It's safe to say that if the Vikings miss the playoffs or make the playoffs, they will have earned their fate either way.
https://www.startribune.com/nfc-playoff-scenarios-show-just-how-costly-vikings-loss-was-to-lions/600126632/