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Vikings Entire Starting Defensive Line is Now Out

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It’s official, we’re screwed…! ✅

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#1 · Nov 24, 11:17 AM
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But your boy Dozier is back lol. Glad he is ok though.

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@"Vikergirl" said: But your boy Dozier is back lol. Glad he is ok though.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1463252896708018178?t=plHnOmBy_3A77p9RgLZ2OQ&s=19

Lol, maybe we can play him on the defensive line. He could line up w/ his back to the offense & rush the quarterback going backwards… :p 

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@"Kentis" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: But your boy Dozier is back lol. Glad he is ok though.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1463252896708018178?t=plHnOmBy_3A77p9RgLZ2OQ&s=19

Lol, maybe we can play him on the defensive line. He could line up w/ his back to the offense & rush the quarterback going backwards… :p 



Ooh plot twist. That could be nightmarish or surprising.

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#4 · Nov 24, 12:42 PM
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Victory is assured!

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I picked the 49'ers before they lost Griff...

I dont know if I can ever recall a game (other than a scab game) where the entire DL was out from the 1st snap. 

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Other than Hunter is any of the other 3 a significant loss other than it limits our depth?  Our DTs had been a huge weakness until Watts started playing.  Pierce and Tomlinson have been non-factors.  Griffen had been playing well, but unlike Hunter his production won't be a steep decline from the backups.  I am hoping that some of the younger guys like Jones can step in and give us a boost like Watts has.  Kendricks and Hunter are really are only two defensive players who are not replaceable.  

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I think this will be similar to last years line. Not good.

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Any word on Tomlinson? Does he have COVID ( out 10 days minimum) or exposed to covid( two negative tests and you are cleared).

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@"purplefaithful" said: I picked the 49'ers before they lost Griff...

I dont know if I can ever recall a game (other than a scab game) where the entire DL was out from the 1st snap. 


Last year came close, PF. But have we heard Griffen is out? I haven't heard or read anything about that. 

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I'm just assuming Griff is out for Sunday @MB...

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@"purplefaithful" said: I'm just assuming Griff is out for Sunday @MB...


Yeah, I would say he's more likely than not to sit this one out, but returning to some kind of normalcy might be good for him? Just guessing. The experts can correct me if I'm wrong. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: I'm just assuming Griff is out for Sunday @MB...


Yeah, I would say he's more likely than not to sit this one out, but returning to some kind of normalcy might be good for him? Just guessing. The experts can correct me if I'm wrong. 


It appears that he needs serious help and that he is in potential danger of hurting himself or others.  A mental illness cannot be seen like a physical one, so it may appear he could potentially go on as he always had, but he is not well and he is going to need time to get himself healthy.  I don't think we will see him back on the field this year.  

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@"Caactorvike" said: Any word on Tomlinson? Does he have COVID ( out 10 days minimum) or exposed to covid( two negative tests and you are cleared).
Good point...He could actually be back in time. 
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likely Starting line this sunday, L-R:

Richardson, Lynch, Watts, Wonnum? 

Big Snaps-Jones, Yarborough, Bower?  

7 healthy dlinemen. Wow 

Looking at this group i can see us going heavy to the run game to try to control clock and limit D snaps. 

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@"JR44" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: I'm just assuming Griff is out for Sunday @MB...


Yeah, I would say he's more likely than not to sit this one out, but returning to some kind of normalcy might be good for him? Just guessing. The experts can correct me if I'm wrong. 


It appears that he needs serious help and that he is in potential danger of hurting himself or others.  A mental illness cannot be seen like a physical one, so it may appear he could potentially go on as he always had, but he is not well and he is going to need time to get himself healthy.  I don't think we will see him back on the field this year.  


Well a lot of folks on this board said that in 2018 and it wasn't true. In fact, I can't imagine why he would miss more than a game or two, if that.

I could be wrong, but I think of mental illness as not something that cripples you, or incapacitates you, but something you manage with therapy and medication, or you don't, and that's the ongoing battle. 

In 2018, he ended up living in a sober house and playing out the year. And then playing two and a half seasons worth of football after that, where he (at least on the surface) appeared to be doing what he needed to do to manage it. 

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Right about now, it would've been nice to see what Janarious Robinson could bring to the table.

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@"MaroonBells" said:

Well a lot of folks on this board said that in 2018 and it wasn't true. In fact, I can't imagine why he would miss more than a game or two, if that.

I could be wrong, but I think of mental illness as not something that cripples you, or incapacitates you, but something you manage with therapy and medication, or you don't, and that's the ongoing battle. 

In 2018, he ended up living in a sober house and playing out the year. And then playing two and a half seasons worth of football after that, where he (at least on the surface) appeared to be doing what he needed to do to manage it. 


It can absolutely do that to you and in a very serious and harmful way.  There are many people who suffer from a MI who are unable to function on a day to day basis and it is also related to an increased risk in suicide.  It is not something that someone starts taking a pill and goes to a counselor and then they can suddenly resume their regular lifestyle.  Griffen's case seems to be extreme and there are much more important things for him to deal with right now than football and it is likely going to be a long process to get there and it will not be conveniently resolved for him to get back on the field this year.  

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"JR44" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: I'm just assuming Griff is out for Sunday @MB...


Yeah, I would say he's more likely than not to sit this one out, but returning to some kind of normalcy might be good for him? Just guessing. The experts can correct me if I'm wrong. 


It appears that he needs serious help and that he is in potential danger of hurting himself or others.  A mental illness cannot be seen like a physical one, so it may appear he could potentially go on as he always had, but he is not well and he is going to need time to get himself healthy.  I don't think we will see him back on the field this year.  


Well a lot of folks on this board said that in 2018 and it wasn't true. In fact, I can't imagine why he would miss more than a game or two, if that.

I could be wrong, but I think of mental illness as not something that cripples you, or incapacitates you, but something you manage with therapy and medication, or you don't, and that's the ongoing battle. 

In 2018, he ended up living in a sober house and playing out the year. And then playing two and a half seasons worth of football after that, where he (at least on the surface) appeared to be doing what he needed to do to manage it. 

Or both. It can cripple you. It can be debilitating. You can have periods where things are going along fine or so it seems and things deteriorate and go off the rails. Everyone is different. Everyone is unique. Mental health is complicated. There are people that manage with medication and therapy. There are people that struggle with medication and therapy. There are people with multiple issues like my son with migraines, insomnia and depression and that makes treatment more complicated. And sometimes medications become ineffective and then you start all over again. Some people get frustrated because it takes time to get medications into your system. Some people struggle with access to appropriate care. Some people struggle with side effects of medications. I would agree that it's an ongoing battle.


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@"Vikergirl" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"JR44" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: I'm just assuming Griff is out for Sunday @MB...


Yeah, I would say he's more likely than not to sit this one out, but returning to some kind of normalcy might be good for him? Just guessing. The experts can correct me if I'm wrong. 


It appears that he needs serious help and that he is in potential danger of hurting himself or others.  A mental illness cannot be seen like a physical one, so it may appear he could potentially go on as he always had, but he is not well and he is going to need time to get himself healthy.  I don't think we will see him back on the field this year.  


Well a lot of folks on this board said that in 2018 and it wasn't true. In fact, I can't imagine why he would miss more than a game or two, if that.

I could be wrong, but I think of mental illness as not something that cripples you, or incapacitates you, but something you manage with therapy and medication, or you don't, and that's the ongoing battle. 

In 2018, he ended up living in a sober house and playing out the year. And then playing two and a half seasons worth of football after that, where he (at least on the surface) appeared to be doing what he needed to do to manage it. 

Or both. It can cripple you. It can be debilitating. You can have periods where things are going along fine or so it seems and things deteriorate and go off the rails. Everyone is different. Everyone is unique. Mental health is complicated. There are people that manage with medication and therapy. There are people that struggle with medication and therapy. There are people with multiple issues like my son with migraines, insomnia and depression and that makes treatment more complicated. And sometimes medications become ineffective and then you start all over again. Some people get frustrated because it takes time to get medications into your system. Some people struggle with access to appropriate care. Some people struggle with side effects of medications. I would agree that it's an ongoing battle.



Same here, my 25 year old daughter has struggled with all the things you mentioned about your Son.   It has been a lifelong battle for her and the entire family.  Just last week she went in for a sleep study and she had to go off all of her meds and that was an adventure to say the least.  She is 2+ hours away at college.  My wife and I learned pretty quickly that their is no magic pill or magic therapist and this is a lifelong battle for all of us and we have to really stay on top of the care system because they are so overwhelmed.  

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Griffen was placed on the NFL’s NFI list so he’ll miss a minimum of 3 games…

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