Time to fire Kubiak...

@"purplefaithful" said: Let Janocko become interim OC while the team limps to season end. 

LOL, why stop at Kubiak?

Cause they're not going to fire Zimmer mid-season...

@"purplefaithful" said: Cause they're not going to fire Zimmer mid-season...

I know lol.  But honestly if you're going to start firing people whats a few more?

One: Sacrificial lamb
Two: I think he's holding the team back
Three: Some new offensive approaches/wrinkles might energize the team and fan base

Keeping him in there calling the plays is essentially tanking. Which, I guess I’m okay with? I don’t even know anymore. This team this season is just deflating. 

It doesn't matter who is OC with Zimmer at the helm. The revolving door of offensive coordinators should have been a big red flag. Fire Zimmer.

@"Vikergirl" said: It doesn't matter who is OC with Zimmer at the helm. The revolving door of offensive coordinators should have been a big red flag. Fire Zimmer.

I'm firmly on board with Zimmer.  I was a major advocate even going into this season.  I don't think the Wilfs do anything midseason. 

At this point if we could end up in the top couple picks say top 10sih.  I'd be onboard with trying our luck on the QB roulette wheel. 

@"AGRforever" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: It doesn't matter who is OC with Zimmer at the helm. The revolving door of offensive coordinators should have been a big red flag. Fire Zimmer.

I'm firmly on board with Zimmer.  I was a major advocate even going into this season.  I don't think the Wilfs do anything midseason. 

At this point if we could end up in the top couple picks say top 10sih.  I'd be onboard with trying our luck on the QB roulette wheel. 

@"AGRforever" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: It doesn't matter who is OC with Zimmer at the helm. The revolving door of offensive coordinators should have been a big red flag. Fire Zimmer.

I'm firmly on board with Zimmer.  I was a major advocate even going into this season.  I don't think the Wilfs do anything midseason. 

At this point if we could end up in the top couple picks say top 10sih.  I'd be onboard with trying our luck on the QB roulette wheel. 

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: It doesn't matter who is OC with Zimmer at the helm. The revolving door of offensive coordinators should have been a big red flag. Fire Zimmer.

I'm firmly on board with Zimmer.  I was a major advocate even going into this season.  I don't think the Wilfs do anything midseason. 

At this point if we could end up in the top couple picks say top 10sih.  I'd be onboard with trying our luck on the QB roulette wheel. 

Wait what? You want to keep him? Why draft a qb then? They won't develop him. And the qb class is not that good.

@"AGRforever" said:

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: It doesn't matter who is OC with Zimmer at the helm. The revolving door of offensive coordinators should have been a big red flag. Fire Zimmer.

I'm firmly on board with Zimmer.  I was a major advocate even going into this season.  I don't think the Wilfs do anything midseason. 

At this point if we could end up in the top couple picks say top 10sih.  I'd be onboard with trying our luck on the QB roulette wheel. 

Wait what? You want to keep him? Why draft a qb then? They won't develop him. And the qb class is not that good.

Clear this up, I say ditch Zimmer but I don't think it happens till after the season.
I also say start planning for life beyond Cousins.  If that means picking QB high, go for it. 

oh the painful reality of nepotism

I would be really surprised if Zimmer fired the son of good friend (especially as he should know this is his last year).   It was a mistake to elevate him for that very reason.  How many of you would fire a good friend's son if you were retiring at the end of the year?

@VO, there is also 53 players to consider here.

Players who (for the most part) give an awful lot of themselves during the week and game day too. IMO this far transcends hurting the feelings of a staffers dad. 

@"purplefaithful" said: @VO, there is also 53 players to consider here.

Players who (for the most part) give an awful lot of themselves during the week and game day too. IMO this far transcends hurting the feelings of a staffers dad. 

I am not in disagreement with you but I don't think Zimmer is wired to think that way.  He is loyal to individuals more than he is loyal to the team as a whole (in my opinion).  I would bet that when Zimmer lured Kubiak senior last year, they cut a deal for Kubiak the younger to be DC this year (total speculation alert).

The offense has regressed.  It is obvious he isn't up for the job

The offense can be explosive but just completely disappears for large sections of games.   You need a QB in this league that can occasionally get you a 3rd down conversion with his legs or maneuver the pocket till someone uncovers. Our QB cannot do either  

The offense can be explosive but just completely disappears for large sections of games.   You need a QB in this league that can occasionally get you a 3rd down conversion with his legs or maneuver the pocket till someone uncovers. Our QB cannot do either  

I get why Zimmer went with Kubiak.  It’s the surest way to ensure that Cousins ended
up having the same offensive system. 
Obviously, there’s risks with taking an inexperienced OC, and those
risks are bearing fruits.

Everyone wants that fresh young mind as their OC, but sometimes
you have to risk that young means inexperienced.  The downfall with Zimmer is that he’s so
hands off on the offensive side of the ball, that inexperienced means there’s
no one else to provide the leadership on the offensive side of the ball.  I think Zimmer needed to bring in some more
wisdom on the offensive side of the ball as an assistant, or he needed a legit
DC and he would work with the offense.  Being inexperienced on both sides of the ball
at the coordinator positions was super dumb.

@"medaille" said: I get why Zimmer went with Kubiak.  It’s the surest way to ensure that Cousins ended up having the same offensive system.  Obviously, there’s risks with taking an inexperienced OC, and those risks are bearing fruits.

Everyone wants that fresh young mind as their OC, but sometimes
you have to risk that young means inexperienced.  The downfall with Zimmer is that he’s so
hands off on the offensive side of the ball, that inexperienced means there’s
no one else to provide the leadership on the offensive side of the ball.  I think Zimmer needed to bring in some more
wisdom on the offensive side of the ball as an assistant, or he needed a legit
DC and he would work with the offense.  Being inexperienced on both sides of the ball
at the coordinator positions was super dumb.

I don't think we know if he is hands off or hands on.  I hear both to criticize him.  I am over Zimmer as our head coach.  I think he is a defensive genius, but the turnover at OC has killed this team.  But again, he has had experienced leadership on that side, Norv, Kubiak Sr, Pat Shurmur, Tony Sparano.  Then he has gone young and innovative, Deflip, Steph and Kubiak jr.  The only ones that have worked out have been hired after one good year.

I would have loved to see him bring Shurmur back.  I think Shumur was the best we had under zimmer and since he flopped a second time as head coach, he probably would have stuck around.