We gave up 500 yds and 36 first downs

Getting Smith back will help some, but losing Hunter (again) is just tough to try and overcome...Today could be a harbinger for the remainder of the season.

This offense is going to have to put up some pretty big #'s to keep things competitive.

Small ball will only keep the L's rolling in. 

Brutal, but this loss is more on the offense, per usual. I like Klint, but he's clearly in over his head. It's hard to watch.

Since the rule changes of 2018, Zimmers Defense hasn't been the same.

It's why why a defensive coach doesn't work in 2021.

@"Mattyman" said: Since the rule changes of 2018, Zimmers Defense hasn't been the same.

It's why why a defensive coach doesn't work in 2021.

The biggest issue has been the constant turnover at offensive coordinator.  That is the only reason we need an offensive coach.

Kirk has what is needed to win. Funny how when the game needs him at the end he's getting TDs (Carolina, Baltimore) or Field Goals (Cincinnati, AZ - Missed, Detroit). I am 100% convinced that the reason the team disappears for basically every second and third quarter is playcalling. I mean we are now running fade routes to our fullback and in back to back games we have a basically backup TE getting more targets than Justin Jefferson. 

There certainly are times where Kirk struggles, but he's been off the charts over the last 16 games...not his fault the play calling is basic, boring, predictable, and doesn't support our strengths. 

@"Hawkvike25" said: Kirk has what is needed to win. Funny how when the game needs him at the end he's getting TDs (Carolina, Baltimore) or Field Goals (Cincinnati, AZ - Missed, Detroit). I am 100% convinced that the reason the team disappears for basically every second and third quarter is playcalling. I mean we are now running fade routes to our fullback and in back to back games we have a basically backup TE getting more targets than Justin Jefferson. 

There certainly are times where Kirk struggles, but he's been off the charts over the last 16 games...not his fault the play calling is basic, boring, predictable, and doesn't support our strengths. 

This.

500 yds and 36 first downs!!

That is a bend and then break defense.  36 first downs is what you call matriculation - f u Hank!

You remember when the "ugly" stick fishing pole was new like around 40 years ago?  Yea, I tested the one I bought and it was also a bend and then break defense.  

Some stats for Zimmer's press conference:
Time of possession difference
2 turn overs for them 0 of us
3 points ff turnover
1 special teams TD

PA was talking game this morning with Berchich. When a team has a +2 turnover ratio, a special teams TD they win 90% of the time. 

After the turnover, most teams will go for the end zone on the quick change, not us. I texted my son and said "If we put our foot on their throat right here, we can take charge". Terrible vanilla play calling.

JJ will be the next Diggs and Harvin (just like OBJ on Cleveland) that will porce their way off this team.

@"minny65" said: 500 yds and 36 first downs!!

That is a bend and then break defense.  36 first downs is what you call matriculation - f u Hank!

You remember when the "ugly" stick fishing pole was new like around 40 years ago?  Yea, I tested the one I bought and it was also a bend and then break defense.  

Leber said after game that Ravens “high school” offense pissed him off. 

That HS offense went through us like a knife through warm butter All Day Long. complete and total dominance. 

Also, when the game goes into OT, we lose the flip, and Barr makes an incredible INT, our offensive play calling was terrible. Good teams mae the other team pay. This tea goes ultra conservative and let's the other team off the hook.

@"purplefaithful" said: Getting Smith back will help some, but losing Hunter (again) is just tough to try and overcome...Today could be a harbinger for the remainder of the season.

This offense is going to have to put up some pretty big #'s to keep things competitive.

Small ball will only keep the L's rolling in. 

I actually thought Bynum played better than Smith has this year, he had pretty good coverage all game and made an incredible interception that Smith never would have made and really should have been the turning point of the game if we would have actually tried to score a TD.  I really loved that draft pick and thought he was one of the steals of the draft and would like to see him play more.  Smith has been declining for some time and not sure why we ever gave him the extension.  Bynum is a big part of the future of this secondary.  

@"JR44" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Getting Smith back will help some, but losing Hunter (again) is just tough to try and overcome...Today could be a harbinger for the remainder of the season.

This offense is going to have to put up some pretty big #'s to keep things competitive.

Small ball will only keep the L's rolling in. 

I actually thought Bynum played better than Smith has this year, he had pretty good coverage all game and made an incredible interception that Smith never would have made and really should have been the turning point of the game if we would have actually tried to score a TD.  I really loved that draft pick and thought he was one of the steals of the draft and would like to see him play more.  Smith has been declining for some time and not sure why we ever gave him the extension.  Bynum is a big part of the future of this secondary.  

@"greediron" said:

@"JR44" said: I actually thought Bynum played better than Smith has this year, he had pretty good coverage all game and made an incredible interception that Smith never would have made and really should have been the turning point of the game if we would have actually tried to score a TD.  I really loved that draft pick and thought he was one of the steals of the draft and would like to see him play more.  Smith has been declining for some time and not sure why we ever gave him the extension.  Bynum is a big part of the future of this secondary.  

Not sure why Smith wouldn't have made that INT, other than perhaps he would have been stopping the run instead.  That was a great play, but Smith isn't the problem.

@"JR44" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Getting Smith back will help some, but losing Hunter (again) is just tough to try and overcome...Today could be a harbinger for the remainder of the season.

This offense is going to have to put up some pretty big #'s to keep things competitive.

Small ball will only keep the L's rolling in. 

I actually thought Bynum played better than Smith has this year, he had pretty good coverage all game and made an incredible interception that Smith never would have made and really should have been the turning point of the game if we would have actually tried to score a TD.  I really loved that draft pick and thought he was one of the steals of the draft and would like to see him play more.  Smith has been declining for some time and not sure why we ever gave him the extension.  Bynum is a big part of the future of this secondary.  

Nothing wrong in having a potential backfill and depth for Harry and secondary...Bynum had a nice game.

How's this for finding fun and creative new ways to lose?

Thielen + JJ vs Ravens = Five catches for 75 yards and a touchdown. Jefferson's 50-yard strike — is the duo's paltriest production in a game this season. It's the fewest grabs they've combined for in a Vikings loss across 23 games together.

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Getting Smith back will help some, but losing Hunter (again) is just tough to try and overcome...Today could be a harbinger for the remainder of the season.

This offense is going to have to put up some pretty big #'s to keep things competitive.

Small ball will only keep the L's rolling in. 

I actually thought Bynum played better than Smith has this year, he had pretty good coverage all game and made an incredible interception that Smith never would have made and really should have been the turning point of the game if we would have actually tried to score a TD.  I really loved that draft pick and thought he was one of the steals of the draft and would like to see him play more.  Smith has been declining for some time and not sure why we ever gave him the extension.  Bynum is a big part of the future of this secondary.  

I read Bynum only gave up 3 catches for a total of 22 yards...that's impressive.