Wilfs have the balls to fire Zim now?

they won’t, or it hasnt been their mo so far.

No they will not imo. 

No I doubt it.

17 years of Wilfs have taught us they have no balls.  Don't wait up hoping to catch a glimpse.  You might as well wait up for the Great Pumpkin, kid.

no body on this current coaching staff should be considered for hc. also, the new hc should not be picked by spielman

I don't think firing a HC during the season is ever good. I don't expect the Wilfs to do that. 

Na, I doubt they ditch him mid-season.  I do think a change is coming though at the end of the year.

Zimmer Era was good in 2014-2017. It was a great change of pace coming from likable Les Frazier. Zimm's teams had personality, a sense of identity. You knew you were in for one hell of a battle and chess match vs Vikings then. 

Someone tell me what the identity is in 2021? I dont have a clue other than vanilla. 

Game has evolved quickly and Mike hasn't kept up. His coaching and coaching staff decisions ultimately bit him in the asz. You just cant burn through OC's like he's done.

@"StickyBun" said: I don't think firing a HC during the season is ever good. I don't expect the Wilfs to do that. 

A coach should be fired when they need to be fired. It should not matter whether it is mid season or not. Once you make the decision that the coach is not coming back, he should be fired. Only bad teams prolong the decision. This allows the following to happen:

1. You evaluate players based on different coaching and have this on tape for off season evaluation
2. The current coaching staff have time to prepare to move on
3. If you had an internal candidate you wanted to evaluate you can give him/her a trial run
4. You get a head start on the process. Candidates also start analyzing your roster early and formulate plans on players they could go after
5. Prevents a lame duck coaching staff making short sighted decisions to save a job he/they already lost and jeopardizing the future of the team

@"mblack" said:

@"StickyBun" said: I don't think firing a HC during the season is ever good. I don't expect the Wilfs to do that. 

A coach should be fired when they need to be fired. It should not matter whether it is mid season or not. Once you make the decision that the coach is not coming back, he should be fired. Only bad teams prolong the decision. This allows the following to happen:

1. Prevents a lame duck coaching staff making short sighted decisions to save a job he/they already lost and jeopardizing the future of the team

This is what pisses me off so much about the last game of last season (and when I first felt done with Zimmer); they should have played to evaluate instead of playing to win.  The rest of the season should be playing to evaluate (especially with Hunter looking out for the season) -- start playing the rookie linebacker and defensive end (when healthy), keep Dantzler as a starter.  rotate in the young safeties, etc.  I worry that this is going to be Zimmer trying to improve his record (just like Cousins try to maintain his stats).

@"mblack" said:

@"StickyBun" said: I don't think firing a HC during the season is ever good. I don't expect the Wilfs to do that. 

A coach should be fired when they need to be fired. It should not matter whether it is mid season or not. Once you make the decision that the coach is not coming back, he should be fired. Only bad teams prolong the decision. This allows the following to happen:

1. You evaluate players based on different coaching and have this on tape for off season evaluation
2. The current coaching staff have time to prepare to move on
3. If you had an internal candidate you wanted to evaluate you can give him/her a trial run
4. You get a head start on the process. Candidates also start analyzing your roster early and formulate plans on players they could go after
5. Prevents a lame duck coaching staff making short sighted decisions to save a job he/they already lost and jeopardizing the future of the team

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"StickyBun" said: I don't think firing a HC during the season is ever good. I don't expect the Wilfs to do that. 

A coach should be fired when they need to be fired. It should not matter whether it is mid season or not. Once you make the decision that the coach is not coming back, he should be fired. Only bad teams prolong the decision. This allows the following to happen:

1. You evaluate players based on different coaching and have this on tape for off season evaluation
2. The current coaching staff have time to prepare to move on
3. If you had an internal candidate you wanted to evaluate you can give him/her a trial run
4. You get a head start on the process. Candidates also start analyzing your roster early and formulate plans on players they could go after
5. Prevents a lame duck coaching staff making short sighted decisions to save a job he/they already lost and jeopardizing the future of the team

we needed to make this move last year for sure,  we would have been much better served if they had recognized what they had and used the last few games to get more looks at their OL candidates,  as well as some other players that were stuck in back up roles.

@"comet52" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"StickyBun" said: I don't think firing a HC during the season is ever good. I don't expect the Wilfs to do that. 

A coach should be fired when they need to be fired. It should not matter whether it is mid season or not. Once you make the decision that the coach is not coming back, he should be fired. Only bad teams prolong the decision. This allows the following to happen:

1. You evaluate players based on different coaching and have this on tape for off season evaluation
2. The current coaching staff have time to prepare to move on
3. If you had an internal candidate you wanted to evaluate you can give him/her a trial run
4. You get a head start on the process. Candidates also start analyzing your roster early and formulate plans on players they could go after
5. Prevents a lame duck coaching staff making short sighted decisions to save a job he/they already lost and jeopardizing the future of the team

we needed to make this move last year for sure,  we would have been much better served if they had recognized what they had and used the last few games to get more looks at their OL candidates,  as well as some other players that were stuck in back up roles.

The move should have been made after the San Fran playoff loss.  You had an in-house candidate ready made for the job.  

I'm not sure if there is much benefit to firing him midseason, but Zimmer has run his course.

@"Tyr" said: I'm not sure if there is much benefit to firing him midseason, but Zimmer has run his course.

So if Zimmer is kept for the remainder of the season, frustration is just going to continue to build for the players.  Already Thielen is questioning things, soon Jefferson is going to get frustrated and may want out like Diggs wanted out.

If they intend to fire him at seasons end just do it now and start evaluating younger players to see if any can make an impact going forward for a new staff.  We all know Zimmer won't play them.

Nobody viable to replace him now. Clean house after the season Zygi 

@"1VikesFan" said: Nobody viable to replace him now. Clean house after the season Zygi 

What???? That right there is enough to fire the GM too if none of his 22 coaches (excluding Zim) can lead this team. This would be the glaring example of surrounding yourself with subpar talent so you come out the expert. Whoever signed off on such sub par talent/hires  then should also be fired.

@"mblack" said:

@"1VikesFan" said: Nobody viable to replace him now. Clean house after the season Zygi 

What???? That right there is enough to fire the GM too if none of his 22 coaches (excluding Zim) can lead this team. This would be the glaring example of surrounding yourself with subpar talent so you come out the expert. Whoever signed off on such sub par talent/hires  then should also be fired.