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"Modern NFL Requires Mobile QBs"

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Anyone else watching the Tannehill-led Titans destroying the Chiefs, along with recent INT-dispenser Mahomes?

Of course, the defending champs have the King of all statue QBs...huh.

Hey, I'm very aware of how good some of these scampering kids can be...but, I keep thinking about the people here that seemingly would've traded all of our picks for the next decade for a Houston QB facing a slew of molestation charges...because he's mobile and talented.  However, the same people that disregard his 4-12 record with the Texans won't forgive our QB's 7-9 record...even knowing our defense  and protection were junk last season.

I think Ws come from teams, folks.

KOC, JJM, Flores...make a good plan, or you'll be following Kwesi....

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#1 · Oct 24, 12:41 PM
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Brady is a GOAT exception and his OL gives him stellar protection. Plus he is about as accurate and quick as it gets. 

OTOH you have someone like Rogers who has just enough movement skills and savvy to be extremely dangerous outside the pocket and give his OL a break all at the same time.  

OTOOH, you have someone like KC; who has little to no movement skills, doesnt make plays (ala Rogers) outside of the pocket much and needs an OL ala GB or TB to be effective. Not a sin as most qb's wither with pressure. 

Would I trade KC and his skill-set for an athlete ala Lamar Jackson? Not sure about that. Not when I look at the efficiency and #'s he's putting up as his protection has improved. 

If my trade-off is athleticism for mediocre accuracy, poor decision making? Well we can just watch Baltimore's playoff games the last few years to know how I'll vote. 

If I can get some athleticism and accuracy/decision making ala Mahomes? That's a very easy decision. In spite of Mahomes having a down year to date. 

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#2 · Oct 24, 1:07 PM
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The "certain type of qb" that you need to win narrative is such a silly thing as it changes all the time. Plus, we won't know what you need until Brady retires. The one thing that stands the test of time is you have to have at least an average OL to go deep in the playoffs. If you pair that with a defense that can get pressure with just four then you have a great chance to win it all.

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#3 · Oct 24, 1:33 PM
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Id trade them for a Kurt Warner who gets the ball out in 3 seconds or under...

...BTW...I cant wait to hear Mahommes girlfriends texts / excuses / whining THIS week. Its truly better than the games themselves

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@"Vanguard83" said: Id trade them for a Kurt Warner who gets the ball out in 3 seconds or under...

...BTW...I cant wait to hear Mahommes girlfriends texts / excuses / whining THIS week. Its truly better than the games themselves


She and his brother are the worst. I have nothing against Mahomes but them two make it hard to really like him

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#5 · Oct 24, 2:10 PM
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Its interesting to see Mahomes and the Chiefs struggling. 3-4 so far this year. 

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@"StickyBun" said: Its interesting to see Mahomes and the Chiefs struggling. 3-4 so far this year. 
Back in Sept/August I would have put a lot of $ on a Bills/Chiefs AFCCG...

I dont follow the Chiefs enough to know why they are struggling some ytd. 

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Its interesting to see Mahomes and the Chiefs struggling. 3-4 so far this year. 
Back in Sept/August I would have put a lot of $ on a Bills/Chiefs AFCCG...

I dont follow the Chiefs enough to know why they are struggling some ytd. 



REMMERS

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#8 · Oct 24, 5:56 PM
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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Its interesting to see Mahomes and the Chiefs struggling. 3-4 so far this year. 
Back in Sept/August I would have put a lot of $ on a Bills/Chiefs AFCCG...

I dont follow the Chiefs enough to know why they are struggling some ytd. 



https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/10/24/chiefs-titans-kansas-citys-struggles-shows-nobody-escapes-nfls-parity

Chiefs D is horrible.

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#9 · Oct 25, 4:41 AM
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@"Vanguard83" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Its interesting to see Mahomes and the Chiefs struggling. 3-4 so far this year. 
Back in Sept/August I would have put a lot of $ on a Bills/Chiefs AFCCG...

I dont follow the Chiefs enough to know why they are struggling some ytd. 



REMMERS


It's not though. Remmers just replaced starter Lucas Niang this week. Niang had allowed 8 QB hurries in the game against the Bills and was benched this week in favor of Remmers. 

Remember what the Chiefs did this offseason? They added Orlando Brown Jr., the guy we all wanted, then signed Joe Thuney, the guy we all wanted, drafted two rookies in Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith and hit home runs on both of them. And guess what? They're all playing well, too. So what gives? 

I've read that teams are doing better against Mahomes by not blitzing. That's kind of a Zimmer thing, too. Saw it again yesterday in the Cincinnati game. Drove Lamar Jackson batty. He'd drop back and have nowhere to throw because the Bengals rushed 4 and dropped everyone else back. 

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#10 · Oct 25, 5:34 AM
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Mahomes is being indecisive and inaccurate with the ball,  he is not playing with the poise and swagger we have e seen in the past.  I dont know if its the added pressure from the SB loss or what but a shit D and a superstar QB that has no swagger is a bad combination.

This was their year too,  after this mahomes contract takes off and will start affecting the rest of the roster.

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@"JimmyinSD" said: Mahomes is being indecisive and inaccurate with the ball,  he is not playing with the poise and swagger we have e seen in the past.  I dont know if its the added pressure from the SB loss or what but a shit D and a superstar QB that has no swagger is a bad combination.

This was their year too,  after this mahomes contract takes off and will start affecting the rest of the roster.


Mahomes has definitely been off this year, but Hill is hurt, Clyde is hurt, and the OL still hasn't gelled. Their defense is really really bad and I dont think it can be fixed this year. They may struggle to get to 10 wins

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@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: Mahomes is being indecisive and inaccurate with the ball,  he is not playing with the poise and swagger we have e seen in the past.  I dont know if its the added pressure from the SB loss or what but a shit D and a superstar QB that has no swagger is a bad combination.

This was their year too,  after this mahomes contract takes off and will start affecting the rest of the roster.


Mahomes has definitely been off this year, but Hill is hurt, Clyde is hurt, and the OL still hasn't gelled. Their defense is really really bad and I dont think it can be fixed this year. They may struggle to get to 10 wins


It just illustrates its a team game. The media loves to hype the QBs, like they singlehandedly win games. Like Mahomes no look passes are just so amazing that it transcends a bad D, bad O-line, injuries. It doesn't. 

What elite QBs do well is: be consistent, don't make too many mistakes, capitalize on opportunities and then when there's a game to be won at the end, they go win it (more often than not). But they all need help.

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#13 · Oct 25, 8:29 AM
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I will add, who is the only team to beat Brady consistently in the super bowl?  And how?

Even Brady doesn't like getting hit.  Build the O-line and reap the rewards.  Perhaps we have our secret sauce gelling right now.

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#14 · Oct 25, 11:34 AM
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Has been Brady been extremely fortunate throughout his 20 years to always play behind a great OL or is it that his ability to read defense pre-snap, connection with his WRs, super quick decision making and quick release why he rarely gets hit?  The QB has a lot to do with how the OL looks.  Our OL was no better the year Case was here than it has been since, however it didn't get the attention it gets now, because Case was playing with some sixth sense of being able to escape every pass rusher.  

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#15 · Oct 25, 12:38 PM
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Speaking of mobile QBs and what could have been if some had gotten their wish

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