Trouble in the Land of Cheese

@"Vikergirl" said:

Hey, I gave this guy my leftovers in a doggie bag just last week

Relax!

Their defense was horrible, offensive line was garbage. Might be a down year for  Aarons Green Bay farewell tour.

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-an-offseason-apart-the-packers-and-aaron-rodgers-looked-lost-together-030623010.html

"A team has never lost by 20 or more points in Week 1 and gone on to win the NFC, and nobody has ever made the Super Bowl after losing its first game by a margin as large as the one New Orleans defeated Green Bay by on Sunday. Everyone is prone to a stinker here or there, but this was easily the most lopsided loss of Rodgers' career. 
Considering the timing, that should terrify Packers fans."
I grabbed this quote from another story. It is just one game, but a pretty bad one. 

Sounds like their OL was terrible. Who would've guessed. 

@"BarrNone55" said: Youngest O in the league with 3 snaps together in the preseason.

Not...wise.

Well each team and HC is different and in different circumstances.

Like I said during preseason, I do not think this team has/had the playing time together, to warrant a rest-up for a real game mentality.
We have a new OC, OL, and WR coach - no surprise our OL shit the bed again.  Not sure all those false starts (Ham) would have happened if these guys played a lot more in preseason.
This team is not the Rams.  This team has a ton of new starters on both sides of the ball and new coaches.  

Bad decision by Zimmer.  Worst preseason I can remember.  

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Youngest O in the league with 3 snaps together in the preseason.

Not...wise.

McVay gave his starters no snaps in preseason...  with a new QB...  I don't know if I am buying this argument when plenty of other teams did the same thing Zimmer did.

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Youngest O in the league with 3 snaps together in the preseason.

Not...wise.

McVay gave his starters no snaps in preseason...  with a new QB...  I don't know if I am buying this argument when plenty of other teams did the same thing Zimmer did.

With a first time OC, QB coach, and OL coach?

No.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Youngest O in the league with 3 snaps together in the preseason.

Not...wise.

McVay gave his starters no snaps in preseason...  with a new QB...  I don't know if I am buying this argument when plenty of other teams did the same thing Zimmer did.

With a first time OC, QB coach, and OL coach?

No.

I think we are overrating the value of preseason...  Let's say we did play our starters more and had more guys than Irv get hurt.  We'd all be pissed at Zimmer for playing our starters too much...   old-school Zimmer at it again...  etc.

The guy can't win...  we all knew going in it was going to take take for Kubes to find his rhythm (hopefully) with play calling and it was going to take time for all the new faces on defense to gel.

I guess I don't get the overreaction to Week 1.  The Vikings shot themselves in the foot repeatedly on one side of the football for an entire half and should have won the football game if Cook wraps both arms around the ball instead of letting the refs decide if it was a fumble or not.

I thought it was a mistake by Zimmer too at the time....Until they lost ISJ for the year and AT got dinged up. 

There's 50% of your starting skill players and there isnt much WR or TE depth on the team. 

NFW they were going to play Jet and Cook after that, no way. 

That said, didnt they play the starting OL quite a bit? And didn't KC get some time?

This might be the norm for the NFL in a 3 game pre-season and 17 game regular one?

@"minny65" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Youngest O in the league with 3 snaps together in the preseason.

Not...wise.

McVay gave his starters no snaps in preseason...  with a new QB...  I don't know if I am buying this argument when plenty of other teams did the same thing Zimmer did.

With a first time OC, QB coach, and OL coach?

No.

I think we are overrating the value of preseason...  Let's say we did play our starters more and had more guys than Irv get hurt.  We'd all be pissed at Zimmer for playing our starters too much...   old-school Zimmer at it again...  etc.

The guy can't win...  we all knew going in it was going to take take for Kubes to find his rhythm (hopefully) with play calling and it was going to take time for all the new faces on defense to gel.

I guess I don't get the overreaction to Week 1.  The Vikings shot themselves in the foot repeatedly on one side of the football for an entire half and should have won the football game if Cook wraps both arms around the ball instead of letting the refs decide if it was a fumble or not.

I think you are understating the value of preseason when you have a ton of new pieces on both sides of the ball and several new coaches.  This isn't hindsight on my part either.  I said it during preseason thatI thought it was a mistake by Zimmer. 

Looks like Joe Barry is getting a lot of the flack in GB...vs anyone else

@"Wetlander" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Youngest O in the league with 3 snaps together in the preseason.

Not...wise.

McVay gave his starters no snaps in preseason...  with a new QB...  I don't know if I am buying this argument when plenty of other teams did the same thing Zimmer did.

With a first time OC, QB coach, and OL coach?

No.

I think we are overrating the value of preseason...  Let's say we did play our starters more and had more guys than Irv get hurt.  We'd all be pissed at Zimmer for playing our starters too much...   old-school Zimmer at it again...  etc.

The guy can't win...  we all knew going in it was going to take take for Kubes to find his rhythm (hopefully) with play calling and it was going to take time for all the new faces on defense to gel.

I guess I don't get the overreaction to Week 1.  The Vikings shot themselves in the foot repeatedly on one side of the football for an entire half and should have won the football game if Cook wraps both arms around the ball instead of letting the refs decide if it was a fumble or not.

I think you are understating the value of preseason when you have a ton of new pieces on both sides of the ball and several new coaches.  This isn't hindsight on my part either.  I said it during preseason thatI thought it was a mistake by Zimmer. 

So 150-200 snaps (total) across 3 preseason games outweighs the thousands of snaps the offense got in Training camp and team scrimmages during the off-season?

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Youngest O in the league with 3 snaps together in the preseason.

Not...wise.

McVay gave his starters no snaps in preseason...  with a new QB...  I don't know if I am buying this argument when plenty of other teams did the same thing Zimmer did.

With a first time OC, QB coach, and OL coach?

No.

I think we are overrating the value of preseason...  Let's say we did play our starters more and had more guys than Irv get hurt.  We'd all be pissed at Zimmer for playing our starters too much...   old-school Zimmer at it again...  etc.

The guy can't win...  we all knew going in it was going to take take for Kubes to find his rhythm (hopefully) with play calling and it was going to take time for all the new faces on defense to gel.

I guess I don't get the overreaction to Week 1.  The Vikings shot themselves in the foot repeatedly on one side of the football for an entire half and should have won the football game if Cook wraps both arms around the ball instead of letting the refs decide if it was a fumble or not.

WAIT a minute!!!!!!! Is that Aaron Rodgers or Slippery Pete?                                        

rumors are Rodgers is going to be a daddy... I read somewhere last week that his whackadoo fiance was hinting around about having a baby and he said a few months ago that being a father is his next greatest challenge.. maybe he is more focused on that than FB?

@"JimmyinSD" said: rumors are Rodgers is going to be a daddy... I read somewhere last week that his whackadoo fiance was hinting around about having a baby and he said a few months ago that being a father is his next greatest challenge.. maybe he is more focused on that than FB?