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4 years 64 million per espn

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

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Nice. 

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Let's hope its a good investment, he's on the downside. This isn't going to be popular here but I think this might be a mistake. 

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Smith hasn't shown any signs of his play dropping off due to age yet. The Vikings' defense suffered last year due to injuries and a general lack of talent, but things would've been even worse without Smith doing his best to hold it together. He tied his career-high with five interceptions, recording ten total passes defended to go along with 89 tackles and five quarterback hits. He was PFF's 14th-highest graded safety and will have a chance to return to the elite tier in 2021 with significantly more talent around him.
Since he came into the league nine years ago, no safety has more interceptions than Smith's 28. He has recorded multiple interceptions in every season except 2016 and has four career pick-sixes, all coming early in his career. Smith has 66 career passes defended, 13.5 sacks, seven forced fumbles, and 747 combined tackles.
After a strong four-year start to his career, the Vikings signed Smith to a five-year, $51.25 million extension prior to the 2016 season. He enters the final year of that deal in 2021, but now has some long-term security with the only NFL team he's ever played for.
Smith made five straight Pro Bowls from 2015 to 2019, and graded as one of the very best safeties in the league in 2017 (first) and 2019 (third), via PFF. He was a first-team All Pro in 2017 and a second-team All Pro in 2018.

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Good for him.

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@"StickyBun" said: Let's hope its a good investment, he's on the downside. This isn't going to be popular here but I think this might be a mistake. 


$26.38 guaranteed is all I really read into it. 

Good for Harrison Smith, he's been a stalwart for the Vikings. 

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Trying to find the tweet comparing Harry's numbers to the recent HOF inductee Troy P. Very favorable.

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@"StickyBun" said: Let's hope its a good investment, he's on the downside. This isn't going to be popular here but I think this might be a mistake. 


I like that the cap hit drops in '22 to '24, but this is a lot of money for a lot of years for a 32 year old safety. Rick and the Wilfs are big fans of drafted players retiring as Vikings, and this looks like another one, but man...

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I’m looking forward to having the Hitman & Patrick Peterson patrolling our secondary…! These 2 cats are actually tied at 28 career interceptions, let the ball hawking begin…!  B) 

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I gotta believe Harry is going to have a much better year.  With better corner play he won't be making up for some young learning curves.

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He won't have to play LB on every play and then run his ass out when he reads pass,  should be able to play more straight up and get back to really playing his game.

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Please get vaccinated Harrison. 

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The real money is $26 million over 2 years, 2021-2022. The rest is fluff.

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@"BarrNone55" said: Trying to find the tweet comparing Harry's numbers to the recent HOF inductee Troy P. Very favorable.
Harrison Smith has played in 130 games thru 2020.

Thru first 130 games of career--

Troy Polamalu:
653 Tackles
10 Sacks
30 INT
44 Tackles for Loss
8 Forced Fumbles
4 TDs

Harrison Smith:
747 Tackles
13.5 Sacks
28 INT
39 Tackles for Loss
7 Forced Fumbles
4 TDs


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@"Kentis" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: Trying to find the tweet comparing Harry's numbers to the recent HOF inductee Troy P. Very favorable.
Harrison Smith has played in 130 games thru 2020.

Thru first 130 games of career--

Troy Polamalu:
653 Tackles
10 Sacks
30 INT
44 Tackles for Loss
8 Forced Fumbles
4 TDs

Harrison Smith:
747 Tackles
13.5 Sacks
28 INT
39 Tackles for Loss
7 Forced Fumbles
4 TDs




It fails to mention 1 key HOF factor.... Polamalu has 2 rings,  Harry,  well lets just say not as many.

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Vikings officially clear about $3.3M in 2021 cap space with the Harrison Smith extension

Smith has the 17th game check recognized and gets a true four-year, $64 million extension

$9.579M signing bonus, $8M 2022 roster bonus so strong cash flows through March 2022

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#Vikings over 16M in cap space for 2021 after the Smith extension. O'Neill's extension will likely chew up some of that, but there's still plenty of room to trade for a much-needed depth veteran
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@"BarrNone55" said:
#Vikings over 16M in cap space for 2021 after the Smith extension. O'Neill's extension will likely chew up some of that, but there's still plenty of room to trade for a much-needed depth veteran
Bet the Vikings are also looking at trade options at QB and TE. 
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
#Vikings over 16M in cap space for 2021 after the Smith extension. O'Neill's extension will likely chew up some of that, but there's still plenty of room to trade for a much-needed depth veteran
Bet the Vikings are also looking at trade options at QB and TE. 

With the uncertainty of Barr's injury (lingering) and rookie linebackers,  I hope the organization looks to upgrade this position soon...
 

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Mike Zimmer shows Harrison Smith some love, and keeps pushing him to be betterThe Pro Bowl safety, now signed through 2025, has a chance to be the rare player who spends his entire career with one team.


The longer Harrison Smith has played for Mike Zimmer, the more he has learned about the defensive backs who, the coach likes to remind him, still rank higher on Zimmer's all-time list than Smith does.
"He's always kind of let me know that Darren Woodson was his guy. His best safety," Smith said. "So I've always kind of been chasing Woody in that way, and continue to do so."
Smith, 32, spent three years as teammates with another player — cornerback Terence Newman — who ranks near the top of Zimmer's list. The two still stay in touch, and now that Smith is in his 10th season, Newman's longevity remains something of a gold standard for him.
"I think he was 39 playing his last year at corner. I'm still not sure how he was able to manage that," Smith said. "He really took care of himself and knew what his body needed."
The four-year, $64 million contract extension the Vikings gave Smith this week could allow him to finish his career in Minnesota and, he hopes, mimic some of the mid-30s performance he saw from Newman. Smith is now signed through 2025 with the team that took him 29th overall in the 2012 draft, and talked Monday of spending the rest of his NFL years with the Vikings.
Smith received a signing bonus of $9.579 million, as well as a roster bonus of $3.525 million this year. He is in line for another $8 million roster bonus before 2022. The Vikings could still reap about $5.8 million in cap savings if they released him after this season, but they would still incur $7.663 million in dead money charges, making it more likely his job is secure for at least two more seasons.
On Monday, though, as Smith talked about becoming the second highest-paid safety in the NFL, he took a moment to pause and reflect on a career that could land the five-time Pro Bowl selection in the Vikings' Ring of Honor one day.
"I've seen it happen many times [where players return to the Vikings after leaving for another team], and I talk to other guys around the league and what it's like in their locker rooms and things like that," Smith said. "We've always had a special locker room, a lot of guys who are close, a lot of guys who look after each other. That's for a reason. That starts at how you draft guys, how you scout guys. So it definitely helps to be a part of a group like that, when you look out for one another on and off the field."
Zimmer, Smith admitted, can be a bit of an acquired taste as a coach, but the safety said playing for Zimmer has opened his eyes to how little he knew about football before the two started working together. The coach, Smith said, has broadened his understanding of defensive football beyond just the responsibilities of his own position.


He has reached all five of his Pro Bowls while playing for Zimmer, earning first-team All-Pro honors in 2017 and a second-team All-Pro pick in 2018. He is seventh in team history with 28 interceptions, leads the Vikings in all-time interceptions returns for touchdowns (four) and could pass Paul Krause in 2022 for the most starts by a Vikings safety.
"I feel like he's one of the best guys that I've ever had as a safety — and that includes a lot of really good players," Zimmer said. "It's great to have him here, probably for the rest of his career, and he kind of embodies, really, everything we try to do here.
"I've coached some Hall of Famers. And he's — I mean, is he there? I don't know. But he's always well-respected in the league, and the coaches all respect him, and I'm glad we've had him for the eight years I've been here, anyway."
Through what Zimmer called a long set of negotiations, Smith's priority was to stay in Minnesota. His new deal affords him a chance to be the rare player who spends his entire career with one team.
"Contracts aren't something I've worried about in my career, and it's allowed me to just focus on playing football," he said. "Those things tend to take care of themselves. So I still have that approach, but I understand the reality of getting older in the league, as well. Being able to be a Viking for my career is the most important."
https://www.startribune.com/harrison-smith-mike-zimmer-vikings-contract-extension/600092382/

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