The Spin Doctor Weighs In

Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

That's the part that hasn't been discussed much...  Whether or not you agree with the NFL protocols, this is a very real issue for teams with a larger percentage of unvaccinated players on their team.

Everything is "fine" right now and vaccinated players (at least publicly) seem supportive of their teammates decisions.  But the Vikings appear to have a larger percentage of players that remain unvaccinated... It's not just Cousins.  When personal decisions/choices start affecting other people's money, it will be extremely tough for a team to remain cohesive.  And if you don't have everyone (players and coaches) all fully invested in each other and the team, you ain't winning a Super Bowl, let alone winning a bunch of games.

Utterly selfish, just get vaccinated...WTF guys

It is what it is but it still sucks. That's why I am cautiously optimistic.

@"Vikergirl" said: It is what it is but it still sucks. That's why I am cautiously optimistic.

Which is why I am waiting for the football & covid gods to smite this team and crush its fan-base. 

ITs the Vikings way. 

Itd be our luck that we’d go 19-0 and forfeit the super bowl wouldnt it?

@"AGRforever" said: Itd be our luck that we’d go 19-0 and forfeit the super bowl wouldnt it?

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

Does this assume the vaccine doesn't work and the vaccinated players get sick or just the unvaccinated ones? 

@"medaille" said:

@"AGRforever" said: Itd be our luck that we’d go 19-0 and forfeit the super bowl wouldnt it?

there is zero percent chance they'd forfeit a super bowl.  The NFL is about making money, and they'd sacrifice all their morals to do so.

No doubt there will be more COVID waves coming....

Northern climates in the fall. 

@"purplefaithful" said: No doubt there will be more COVID waves coming....

Northern climates in the fall. 

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

Does this assume the vaccine doesn't work and the vaccinated players get sick or just the unvaccinated ones? 

@"dadevike" said:

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

Does this assume the vaccine doesn't work and the vaccinated players get sick or just the unvaccinated ones? 

Getting the vaccine does not guaranty that one will not get Covid.  But it is a very good (not 100%) guaranty that you won't die from it and won't be hospitalized and on a ventilator because of Covid.  But vaccinated people can still spread Covid.  ... Bottom line: everyone get vaccinated and wear a mask and we can get through this in a matter of weeks.  
Of course, that won't happen because: freedom, paranoia, conspiracy theories, Q, the federal government, tracking devices, facebook, "I do my own research," the CDC, the FDA, the WHO (not the band), Hannity, Trump, Biden, Fox News, ...

@"greediron" said:

@"dadevike" said:

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

Does this assume the vaccine doesn't work and the vaccinated players get sick or just the unvaccinated ones? 

Getting the vaccine does not guaranty that one will not get Covid.  But it is a very good (not 100%) guaranty that you won't die from it and won't be hospitalized and on a ventilator because of Covid.  But vaccinated people can still spread Covid.  ... Bottom line: everyone get vaccinated and wear a mask and we can get through this in a matter of weeks.  
Of course, that won't happen because: freedom, paranoia, conspiracy theories, Q, the federal government, tracking devices, facebook, "I do my own research," the CDC, the FDA, the WHO (not the band), Hannity, Trump, Biden, Fox News, ...

Hahaha, that line doesn't have the same ring to it after 1 year and a half of variants.

When people include "wear a mask" and then say "follow the science" at this point is just laughable.  Follow the govt approved talking points.

@"greediron" said:

@"dadevike" said:

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

Does this assume the vaccine doesn't work and the vaccinated players get sick or just the unvaccinated ones? 

Getting the vaccine does not guaranty that one will not get Covid.  But it is a very good (not 100%) guaranty that you won't die from it and won't be hospitalized and on a ventilator because of Covid.  But vaccinated people can still spread Covid.  ... Bottom line: everyone get vaccinated and wear a mask and we can get through this in a matter of weeks.  
Of course, that won't happen because: freedom, paranoia, conspiracy theories, Q, the federal government, tracking devices, facebook, "I do my own research," the CDC, the FDA, the WHO (not the band), Hannity, Trump, Biden, Fox News, ...

Hahaha, that line doesn't have the same ring to it after 1 year and a half of variants.

When people include "wear a mask" and then say "follow the science" at this point is just laughable.  Follow the govt approved talking points.

@"dadevike" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"dadevike" said:

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

Does this assume the vaccine doesn't work and the vaccinated players get sick or just the unvaccinated ones? 

Getting the vaccine does not guaranty that one will not get Covid.  But it is a very good (not 100%) guaranty that you won't die from it and won't be hospitalized and on a ventilator because of Covid.  But vaccinated people can still spread Covid.  ... Bottom line: everyone get vaccinated and wear a mask and we can get through this in a matter of weeks.  
Of course, that won't happen because: freedom, paranoia, conspiracy theories, Q, the federal government, tracking devices, facebook, "I do my own research," the CDC, the FDA, the WHO (not the band), Hannity, Trump, Biden, Fox News, ...

Hahaha, that line doesn't have the same ring to it after 1 year and a half of variants.

When people include "wear a mask" and then say "follow the science" at this point is just laughable.  Follow the govt approved talking points.

Not sure I grasp your MAGA insight.  But I think laughing at "follow the science" probably tells me all I need to know. And it reinforces my conclusion that, "of course, that won't happen here."

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

Is there a definition of what a “cluster” is, what an “outbreak”
is, and is it defined how bad of an outbreak is going to cause you to forfeit a
game or is the NFL just going to ask their marketing team to make this decision
based on what’s most profitable?

@"medaille" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

I brought this up before with no answer, but I think it’s worthy of
bringing up again.

Is there a definition of what a “cluster” is, what an “outbreak”
is, and is it defined how bad of an outbreak is going to cause you to forfeit a
game or is the NFL just going to ask their marketing team to make this decision
based on what’s most profitable?

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"dadevike" said:

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Hadn't really thought about this side of it...but imagine a scenario where the Vikings do forfeit a game, crushing hopes of a playoff birth, forcing all the players who've made personal sacrifices for the team for months...just to make another one: their paycheck. What will Kirk or Adam or whoever say then? "It is what it is?"

I really don’t know if a team can recover from a forfeit. If I’ve been vaccinated and we’ve got guys that haven’t been and then we’ve got to forfeit, I’m losing a big check — and they are big checks now. They aren’t like when I played; maybe a game check was 2,500 bucks.
Now I’m talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that most guys are making per game. And so that’s going to have an effect on the team and the outcome of the season. I really believe that.

Does this assume the vaccine doesn't work and the vaccinated players get sick or just the unvaccinated ones? 

Getting the vaccine does not guaranty that one will not get Covid.  But it is a very good (not 100%) guaranty that you won't die from it and won't be hospitalized and on a ventilator because of Covid.  But vaccinated people can still spread Covid.  ... Bottom line: everyone get vaccinated and wear a mask and we can get through this in a matter of weeks.  
Of course, that won't happen because: freedom, paranoia, conspiracy theories, Q, the federal government, tracking devices, facebook, "I do my own research," the CDC, the FDA, the WHO (not the band), Hannity, Trump, Biden, Fox News, ...

Hahaha, that line doesn't have the same ring to it after 1 year and a half of variants.

When people include "wear a mask" and then say "follow the science" at this point is just laughable.  Follow the govt approved talking points.

"If you are not a scientist, and you disagree with scientists about science, it’s actually not a disagreement. You're just wrong. Science is not truth. Science is finding the truth. When science changes its opinion, it didn't lie to you. It learned more." — a smart person