I think Kirk Cousins can do it......
The right team, right situation. I think that might be the 2021 Vikings. He's a very good QB. I see a mini-window this year and next, no Super Bowl its Kellen Mond time 2 years from now potentially.
Cousins is good enough. We need a run and some luck. I like the next two years.
I swore to myself I wouldn't comment on this thread (why Sticky, why... the horse is dead) but-
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-all-32-starters-ahead-of-the-2021-nfl-season
PFF ranks him 14th.
His cap number his is 3rd and rising.
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2021/
To the fans who cannot possibly fathom anyone questioning Kirk, look up. /end
In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
@"pattersaur" said:I swore to myself I wouldn't comment on this thread (why Sticky, why... the horse is dead) but-https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-all-32-starters-ahead-of-the-2021-nfl-season
PFF ranks him 14th.
His cap number his is 3rd and rising.
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2021/To the fans who cannot possibly fathom anyone questioning Kirk, look up. /end
In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
Besides comp. pct./int. none of these stats mean jack when you consider the system of a run heavy offense we run. Bargain contracts are always on rookie deals, and not enough track record for any of them to be considered top 10 talent.
@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)
Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
Trying to remember who the pro Trubisky poster was...
@"greediron" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
Trying to remember who the pro Trubisky poster was...
Not telling. Because calling out posters for being wrong is douchey. We're ALL wrong every now and then. But he's a good citizen. I have faith he'll step forward and fall at the mercy of the board. :-)
@"greediron" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
Trying to remember who the pro Trubisky poster was...
The board actually had somebody carrying water for trubisky?
Here's the weird thing: I've never been wrong about anything. Just sayin'..
p.s. I mean so far today. But its REALLY early.
@"StickyBun" said: Here's the weird thing: I've never been wrong about anything. Just sayin'..p.s. I mean so far today. But its REALLY early.
Well I guess that mystery solved itself....but why?
@"StickyBun" said: Here's the weird thing: I've never been wrong about anything. Just sayin'..p.s. I mean so far today. But its REALLY early.
just had to needle you when I had the chance. Cuz you are right way too often.
@"greediron" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
Trying to remember who the pro Trubisky poster was...![]()
@"MaroonBells" said:@"greediron" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
Trying to remember who the pro Trubisky poster was...
Not telling. Because calling out posters for being wrong is douchey. We're ALL wrong every now and then. But he's a good citizen. I have faith he'll step forward and fall at the mercy of the board. :-)
Well, I did have a lot of fun reminding Sticky he was wrong about JJ... especially when I warned him he would regret it later... that's what friends are for right? LOL
@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
Burrow ready to join the above list?Minnesota should absolutely dominate week 1 pic.twitter.com/sGICb4VK2i
— Josh Mensch 👿 (@JoshMenschNFL) August 4, 2021
@"MaroonBells" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
Burrow ready to join the above list?Minnesota should absolutely dominate week 1 pic.twitter.com/sGICb4VK2i
— Josh Mensch 👿 (@JoshMenschNFL) August 4, 2021
Kinda related:
I was reading up on the Top QB's drafted this year and there first few days of camp:
Lawrence - has looked awful
M. Jones - bad
Z Wilson - bad but then one or two dimes
T. Lance - I think has had a few days and has looked very good
J. Fields - good
I am pulling for Burrow to just be working out the rust after major surgery.
Depending on whether or not Kirk is on the field, he might not do anything. The behind the scenes stuff is a mess.
@"pattersaur" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
Burrow ready to join the above list?Minnesota should absolutely dominate week 1 pic.twitter.com/sGICb4VK2i
— Josh Mensch 👿 (@JoshMenschNFL) August 4, 2021
@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"pattersaur" said:In regards to that list- yeah I'd probably move Kirk up a few spots (Baker Mayfield?!), but if you factor in the bargain contracts for guys like Herbert, Murray, Burrow, then I'd move him right back down a few spots.
Kirk's a good QB. We'll see what he can do this year.
In reference to the young QBs, remember the teams who drafted Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston and Trubisky thought they had their franchise QB early on too. There was a post on this very board talking about how Bisky looked like the next great one. Hell, there was a time when Mark Sanchez was being called "Sanchize" and Daniel Jones was called "Danny Dimes." :-)Young QBs typically look pretty good their 1st or 2nd season, but give it time.
Burrow ready to join the above list?Minnesota should absolutely dominate week 1 pic.twitter.com/sGICb4VK2i
— Josh Mensch 👿 (@JoshMenschNFL) August 4, 2021
Seriously, tho........its mostly this. You can't read into anything too deeply.
When you really think about it reporters live tweeting every play from NFL practices is one of the most ridiculous things in civilization
— Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente) August 4, 2021
I'm not a big fan of rookie players camp evaluation. Let's evaluation them in preseason games where things are live.
@"StickyBun" said: Seriously, tho........its mostly this. You can't read into anything too deeply.https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1422946637509431301
Well, as a guy who used to tape NFL Europe games, I love it!
But, I might be the outlier.
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