US Bank: no masks, full capacity, no vaccine requirements

I'm not taking a stance on this but it really surprises me given how strict the State of Minnesota has been with COVID. That being said, looking forward to US Bank being LOUD AF this year

Well, I don't really "trust the people". I mean, have you seen the videos of the people who claim the vaccine has made them magnetic? And I do wish the percentage of vaccinated people was higher. But as long as the vaccines continue to remain effective against new variants, I'm in. Last year the last thing I wanted was to be in a building where everyone was screaming, masks or not.

I've started planning out the season and have already had one friend say they won't be attending any games as they live with someone who has a compromised immune system. She's fully vaccinated but doesn't want to take any risks that will endanger anyone else at all. I can respect that. Do what you feel is best for you.

As for me, I'm looking forward to being in a seat at the Bank. SKOL!

@"Nichelle" said: Well, I don't really "trust the people". I mean, have you seen the videos of the people who claim the vaccine has made them magnetic? 

Yep, agreed. The 'trust the people' thing wasn't what I was referring to, just that US Bank is now going to be wide open. I'm glad you mentioned that part because I don't agree with that sentiment, lol. If you 'trust the people' too much, dumb shit happens. Its why government intervention sometimes is required and necessary. 

The honor system has no meaning because the anti-vaxxers were going to wear masks to protect themselves from vaccinated people. Ok whatever. I am looking forward to getting back to US Bank Stadium. You have to move forward and do what you can. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Nichelle" said: Well, I don't really "trust the people". I mean, have you seen the videos of the people who claim the vaccine has made them magnetic? 

Yep, agreed. The 'trust the people' thing wasn't what I was referring to, just that US Bank is now going to be wide open. I'm glad you mentioned that part because I don't agree with that sentiment, lol. If you 'trust the people' too much, dumb shit happens. Its why government intervention sometimes is required and necessary. 

@"Nichelle" said: I mean, have you seen the videos of the people who claim the vaccine has made them magnetic? 

YEAH....They've got some BITCHIN' powers now !!!

I don’t think stereotyping a broad segment of the population
based on the caricatures of a few memes or headlines is progressing anything
forward.  If anything it just further increases tribalism.

We all should know by now that mainstream media and social
media tries to get your attention and outrage by showing the most extreme and
ridiculous things and pretending like they’re a frequent and persistent threat.

@"medaille" said: I don’t think stereotyping a broad segment of the population based on the caricatures of a few memes or headlines is progressing anything forward.  If anything it just further increases tribalism.

We all should know by now that mainstream media and social
media tries to get your attention and outrage by showing the most extreme and
ridiculous things and pretending like they’re a frequent and persistent threat.

@"medaille" said: I don’t think stereotyping a broad segment of the population based on the caricatures of a few memes or headlines is progressing anything forward.  If anything it just further increases tribalism.

We all should know by now that mainstream media and social
media tries to get your attention and outrage by showing the most extreme and
ridiculous things and pretending like they’re a frequent and persistent threat.

That's very fair and I agree. Though I will add that I did not use it to stereotype a broad segment of the population. But it was absolutely an example of why I do not "trust the people". There is a significant percentage of the population who have chosen not to vaccinate. (Note that the magnet lady and her friends were actually vaccinated) And as I stated, I wish the number vaccinated was higher as that does nothing to help stop the spread of the virus. But because I have chosen to get vaccinated, I feel comfortable entering the 'arena'. Everyone will have to make informed decisions on where they spend their time and worry about protecting themselves. Certainly, the person sitting shoulder to shoulder next to you and screaming SKOL in US Bank stadium isn't the one to trust to look out for you.

@"Nichelle" said:That's very fair and I agree. Though I will add that I did not use it to stereotype a broad segment of the population.  And as I stated, I wish the number vaccinated was higher as that does nothing to help stop the spread of the virus.

Just because someone gets an injection does not mean they are immune. A 9th vaccinate New York Yankees member tested positive for Covid-19 but feels good, manager says https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/us/yankees-covid-tests-positive-trnd/index.html

CDC: About 5,800 Fully Vaccinated People Have Tested Positive for COVID-19https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-about-5800-fully-vaccinated-people-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19/ar-BB1fHfC1
Vaccinated Hawaiian resident tested positive for Delta coronavirus variant.https://www.foxnews.com/health/vaccinated-hawaiian-positive-delta-variant
Two passengers test positive for COVID on Celebrity Millennium 'fully vaccinated' cruisehttps://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2021/06/10/passengers-positive-covid-after-sailing-100-vaccinated-cruise/7645511002/
Bill Maher is fully vaccinated and has tested positive for Covid-19 Coronovirushttps://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/05/15/bill-maher-tests-positive-for-covid-19-coronavirus-and-is-fully-vaccinated/
Nearly 4,000 fully vaccinated Mass. residents have tested positive for COVID-19https://whdh.com/news/nearly-4000-fully-vaccinated-mass-residents-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19/

Two months after receiving vaccine, Illinois mom tests positive for Covid-19
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/two-months-after-receiving-vaccine-illinois-mom-tests-positive-for-covid-19/19588729/
142 Houstonians tested positive for Covid-19 after getting vaccine
https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/houstonians-test-positive-covid-19-after-vaccine/285-b50aba7f-5f23-4ae0-bec8-05f71af300a5
Fully Vaccinated Nurse Tests Positive for COVID-19, Forced to Quarantine While on Vacationhttps://www.ibtimes.com/fully-vaccinated-nurse-tests-positive-covid-19-forced-quarantine-while-vacation-3177066
Vaccinated Nats player tests positive for COVID-19https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/vaccinated-nats-player-tests-positive-covid-19-77789670
Erick Fedde is vaccinated and tested positive. Max Scherzer feels he should be able to play.https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/05/19/nationals-pitchers-covid-positive/

Warriors Damion Lee reveals he tested positive for COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated.https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-damion-lee-reveals-he-tested-positive-for-covid-19-despite-being-fully-vaccinated/

Vaccinated Nursing Home Resident Tests Positive for COVID-19 After Reunion, Family Says.https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2021/03/23/vaccinated-nursing-home-resident-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-reunion-family-says/

Arizona lawmaker says she tested positive for COVID-19 after receiving both doses of Pfizer vaccine.https://www.12news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/arizona-lawmaker-says-she-tested-positive-for-covid-19-after-receiving-both-doses-of-the-pfizer-vaccine/75-5eb5bc42-76d7-42fb-b914-e65b7616d785

Dozens of Washingtonians test positive for COVID-19 after full vaccination, DOH sayshttps://www.kiro7.com/news/local/doh-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-confirmed-washington/UXIAR3OU4JB63GQQRHTSK45QAA/
21 vaccinated residents test positive for COVID at Spokane retirement community.https://www.kxly.com/21-vaccinated-residents-test-positive-for-covid-at-spokane-retirement-community/

203 fully vaccinated San Diego County residents have tested positive for COVID-19.https://www.kusi.com/203-fully-vaccinated-san-diego-county-residents-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19/
23-year-old tests positive for COVID after receiving vaccine; 'You're not invincible if you're vaccinated'.https://www.wtvr.com/news/coronavirus/23-year-old-tests-positive-for-covid-after-receiving-vaccine
St Louis County sees 71 fully vaccinated people test positive for COVIDhttps://fox2now.com/news/st-louis-county-sees-71-fully-vaccinated-people-test-positive-for-covid/
Six months into the vaccination effort, Los Angeles County has recorded
nearly 1,000 "breakthrough" cases in which fully vaccinated people went
on to test positive for the coronavirus. Of those breakthrough cases, 71
were hospitalized and 12 died.https://patch.com/california/los-angeles/933-vaccinated-angelenos-test-positive-covid-19-12-died

Sonoma County health officials said Tuesday that at least 39 people in
the region tested positive for the coronavirus despite being vaccinated.https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/breakthrough-coronavirus-cases-Bay-Area-Sonoma-16100389.php
'I did not expect it to be positive': Texas teacher tests positive for COVID-19 after getting vaccinated.https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/i-did-not-expect-it-to-be-positive-texas-teacher-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-getting-vaccinated/

17 nursing home residents in Brenham test positive for COVID-19 after receiving vaccinehttps://www.kxxv.com/news/coronavirus/17-nursing-home-residents-in-brenham-test-positive-for-covid-19-after-receiving-vaccine

Pfizer's EUA Fact Sheet:http://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=14472&format=pdf
Pg 1: "The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is a vaccine and may prevent you from getting COVID-19. There is no U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19"
Pg 1: "The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine may not protect everyone"
Pg 1: "WHAT IS THE PFIZER-BIONTECHCOVID-19 VACCINE? The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19. There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19."
Pg 3: "HAS THE PFIZER-BIONTECHCOVID-19 VACCINE BEEN USED BEFORE?The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine.
In clinical trials, approximately 23,000 individuals 12 years of age
and older have received at least 1 dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine."
Pg 3: "These may not be all the possible side effects of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. Serious and unexpected side effects may occur. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccineis still being studied in clinical trials."
Pg 4: "ARE OTHER CHOICES AVAILABLE FOR PREVENTING COVID-19 BESIDES PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE? Currently, there is no approved alternative vaccine available for prevention of COVID-19. Other vaccines to prevent COVID-19 may be available under Emergency Use Authorization.
Pg 6: "The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has not undergone the same type of review as an FDA-approved or cleared product.
FDA may issue an EUA when certain criteria are met, which includes that
there are no adequate, approved, available alternatives. In addition,
the FDA decision is based on the totality of scientific evidence
available showing that the product may be effective to
prevent COVID-19 during the COVID-19 pandemic and that the known and
potential benefits of the product outweigh the known and potential risks
of the product. All of these criteria must be met to allow for the
product to be used in the treatment of patients during the COVID-19 pandemic."

@"DeepFreeze05" said:

@"Nichelle" said:That's very fair and I agree. Though I will add that I did not use it to stereotype a broad segment of the population.  And as I stated, I wish the number vaccinated was higher as that does nothing to help stop the spread of the virus.

Just because someone gets an injection does not mean they are immune.

@"Nichelle" said:

• Prevent you from getting COVID-19 or from becoming seriously ill or dying due to COVID-19
• Prevent you from spreading the COVID-19 virus to others
• Add to the number of people in the community who are protected from getting COVID-19 — making it harder for the disease to spread and contributing to herd immunity
• Prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading and replicating, which allows it to mutate and possibly become more resistant to vaccines

Perhaps, but some of the articles I shared seems to contradict that.

• Prevent you from getting COVID-19 or from becoming seriously ill or dying due to COVID-19

• Prevent you from spreading the COVID-19 virus to others

Two passengers test positive for COVID on Celebrity Millennium 'fully vaccinated' cruisehttps://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2021/06/10/passengers-positive-covid-after-sailing-100-vaccinated-cruise/7645511002/

• Add to the number of people in the community who are protected from getting COVID-19 — making it harder for the disease to spread and contributing to herd immunity

A 9th vaccinate New York Yankees member tested positive for Covid-19 but feels good, manager says https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/us/yankees-covid-tests-positive-trnd/index.html

• Prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading and replicating, which allows it to mutate and possibly become more resistant to vaccines

One county: 203 fully vaccinated San Diego County residents have tested positive for COVID-19. One city: 142 Houstonians tested positive for Covid-19 after getting vaccine Mutate:  Vaccinated Hawaiian resident tested positive for Delta coronavirus variant.https://www.foxnews.com/health/vaccinated-hawaiian-positive-delta-variant

Something to look forward to:
Phizer CEO says third Covid vaccine dose likely needed within 12 months. He also said it’s possible people will need to get vaccinated against the coronavirus annually.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html

Vaccines 2.0: Next-generation COVID-19 shots will be cheaper, easier to deliver and protect against more viruses, industry leaders say
COVID-19 will not be a pandemic forever, but the virus that causes it will probably be around indefinitely, like the flu, said Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

"Are we going to need to give a vaccine as long as this virus exists in the world? I think the answer to that question is yes," Offit said. "So you're talking about decades, I would imagine."

Stanley
Erck, president and CEO of Novavax, which plans to release its
vaccine's effectiveness data soon, said his company's studies in monkeys
show that giving a booster dose a year after initial vaccination yields
"spectacular results."

"I think we're going to want to do that with humans," he said. "This isn't going to go away from a commercial point of view anytime in the future."
www.yahoo.com/entertainment/vaccines-2-0-next-generation-093007959.html

When throwing around numbers & exceptions, remember these numbers are rather minuscule, when considering some 315M doses have been given & some 148M have been fully vaccinated…

@"Kentis" said: When throwing around numbers & exceptions, remember these numbers are rather minuscule, when considering some 315M doses have been given & some 148M have been fully vaccinated…

It's okay, it an expression of natural selection, and maybe one occasion I agree with Malthus and the lifeboat analogy.  I am good, plenty of folk around the world really want to be vaccinated, give it to them, close the free bar and pay as you go from here on out.

@"Kentis" said: When throwing around numbers & exceptions, remember these numbers are rather minuscule, when considering some 315M doses have been given & some 148M have been fully vaccinated…

Those are the numbers for the first 6 months of breakthrough infection.  Those aren't the numbers for vax injury.  The CDC was supposed to have a meeting today about the cardiac issues with the youth, but they postponed it.

They might be minor, but remember the mask arguments?  Do you hate grandma?  We were supposed to wear masks to maybe just possibly reduce the chance of infection.

@"Kentis" said: When throwing around numbers & exceptions, remember these numbers are rather minuscule, when considering some 315M doses have been given & some 148M have been fully vaccinated…

The same could have been argued about the survival rate prior to the when the injection came out.

Covid-19 Survival Rate
0-19 years   99.997%20-49 years  99.98%50-69 years  99.5%70+ years  94.6%
https://www.krtv.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-covid-19-chronic-medical-conditions-and-survival-rates

@"DeepFreeze05" said:

@"Kentis" said: When throwing around numbers & exceptions, remember these numbers are rather minuscule, when considering some 315M doses have been given & some 148M have been fully vaccinated…

The same could have been argued about the survival rate prior to the when the injection came out.

Covid-19 Survival Rate
0-19 years   99.997%20-49 years  99.98%50-69 years  99.5%70+ years  94.6%
https://www.krtv.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-covid-19-chronic-medical-conditions-and-survival-rates

@"Kentis" said: When throwing around numbers & exceptions, remember these numbers are rather minuscule, when considering some 315M doses have been given & some 148M have been fully vaccinated…

Agreed. And I am missing the part where the numbers posted actually contradict the 4 points about vaccinations. The statement was the vaccines are effective in helping at a high rate. It is still a very high rate. And if I need to get a booster shot annually, then great.

So, I still don't trust people :p . And look out for yourself (or not).