So, We Tried To Get To #8

@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1398275938148814848

Came too light. Had to be for Fields or Slater. Funny thing is, Carolina probably could have had Horn at #14.

Regardless, still very happy with the way things ended up.

I'm more than happy with the outcome.

@"VikeMike52" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1398275938148814848

Came too light. Had to be for Fields or Slater. Funny thing is, Carolina probably could have had Horn at #14.

Regardless, still very happy with the way things ended up.

I'm more than happy with the outcome.

If both fields and Mond pan out,  the vikings should be able to put more around Mond in those early years.  Both could be happy,  but yes more than likely either 1 or neither will pan out to anything decent.  

@"Kmerry82" said: If both fields and Mond pan out,  the vikings should be able to put more around Mond in those early years.  Both could be happy,  but yes more than likely either 1 or neither will pan out to anything decent.  

Yes.  I am happy we didn't give up that much for Fields.  Chicago did, and that has been their SOP, give up high picks, lots of them to get the "guy".  Then if that guy doesn't pan out, they have wasted much time and draft capital.  Even if it pans out like it did with Mack, it weakens the team because they are missing several cheap contracts of guys that could be starters.

If that trade went through, we wouldn't have Darrisaw or Davis and whomever we selected at 90 and 143 (surrat? and ?) and we would still be starting Kirk wondering if Fields was worth it.  Then Fields becomes the favorite QB for the fans that perpetually want change and Kirk gets benched if he struggled without a good O-line.

The Panthers were right to turn that down.  A low 3 and next-to-last 4th  to go up from 14 to 8 isn't even close.   Vikings didn't have enough ammo to make a legit offer.  

@"StickyBun" said:

@"VikeMike52" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1398275938148814848

Came too light. Had to be for Fields or Slater. Funny thing is, Carolina probably could have had Horn at #14.

Regardless, still very happy with the way things ended up.

I'm more than happy with the outcome.

Honestly, it remains to be seen. Chicago is PUMPED they got Fields. Only time will tell. My point being right now, everyone is happy with everything. In 3 years, some will be a lot happier than others. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"VikeMike52" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1398275938148814848

Came too light. Had to be for Fields or Slater. Funny thing is, Carolina probably could have had Horn at #14.

Regardless, still very happy with the way things ended up.

I'm more than happy with the outcome.

Honestly, it remains to be seen. Chicago is PUMPED they got Fields. Only time will tell. My point being right now, everyone is happy with everything. In 3 years, some will be a lot happier than others. 

Unless you have an Elite QB, an awful lot can happen in 3 years in the NFL. That's a lifetime. 

If the Bears found the next Mahomes?  Everyone will be crediting them for having brass balls and making a move to get him. If he's the next Trubisky? They'll be crucified by fans and press. 

I applaud them for not getting gun-shy after Mitch and trying to fix a perennial problem. 

well I wouldn't say he cost us nothing--there is opportunity cost of player x at his spot but no additional capital to sellect him.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"VikeMike52" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1398275938148814848

Came too light. Had to be for Fields or Slater. Funny thing is, Carolina probably could have had Horn at #14.

Regardless, still very happy with the way things ended up.

I'm more than happy with the outcome.

Honestly, it remains to be seen. Chicago is PUMPED they got Fields. Only time will tell. My point being right now, everyone is happy with everything. In 3 years, some will be a lot happier than others. 

Unless you have an Elite QB, an awful lot can happen in 3 years in the NFL. That's a lifetime. 

If the Bears found the next Mahomes?  Everyone will be crediting them for having brass balls and making a move to get him. If he's the next Trubisky? They'll be crucified by fans and press. 

I applaud them for not getting gun-shy after Mitch and trying to fix a perennial problem. 

I may live to regret saying that, but I'm with Simms on Fields. I wouldn't put Mond over him like Simms did, but I think Mond has just as much potential to be a franchise QB. And, unlike the Bears, he cost us nothing. Zip, zilch, nada. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"VikeMike52" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1398275938148814848

Came too light. Had to be for Fields or Slater. Funny thing is, Carolina probably could have had Horn at #14.

Regardless, still very happy with the way things ended up.

I'm more than happy with the outcome.

Honestly, it remains to be seen. Chicago is PUMPED they got Fields. Only time will tell. My point being right now, everyone is happy with everything. In 3 years, some will be a lot happier than others. 

Unless you have an Elite QB, an awful lot can happen in 3 years in the NFL. That's a lifetime. 

If the Bears found the next Mahomes?  Everyone will be crediting them for having brass balls and making a move to get him. If he's the next Trubisky? They'll be crucified by fans and press. 

I applaud them for not getting gun-shy after Mitch and trying to fix a perennial problem. 

I may live to regret saying that, but I'm with Simms on Fields. I wouldn't put Mond over him like Simms did, but I think Mond has just as much potential to be a franchise QB. And, unlike the Bears, he cost us nothing. Zip, zilch, nada. 

Its all a gamble. But if you hit, you HIT. And the Bears may have. Mond was a 3rd rounder for a reason, at least more than likely. 

One team moved up to #8 to get a guy. Another team got him by staying and taking a guy in the 3rd round. The problem is the odds aren't the same. Fields could easily be a bust, but Mond overwhelmingly will probably be a never-was. That's just the truth of it. 

@"Akvike" said: well I wouldn't say he cost us nothing--there is opportunity cost of player x at his spot but no additional capital to sellect him.

Just saying that we generated the capital ourselves to make that pick. It didn't exist going into the draft. What's more, it didn't cost the Vikings anything to generate that capital. We took Darrisaw at 23 and we likely would've taken Darrisaw at 14. That's what I mean by no cost. 

Either way, Fields will be entertaining and they dont have to rush him with Dalton on the roster. Sure there'll be pressure to put him in after their first loss (or 1st int) but I think Nagy will be smart about it. 

The question I have if I'm a Bears fan is will Fields develop quickly enough to pair him with a superb bunch of dawgs on D? 

For the purple, Darrisaw gives us a chance to maximize the Capt'n investment and all the magnificent weapons we have on offense. 

Cook, ISJ, AT, Jet is a pretty damn good roster...

@"purplefaithful" said: Either way, Fields will be entertaining and they dont have to rush him with Dalton on the roster. Sure there'll be pressure to put him in after their first loss (or 1st int) but I think Nagy will be smart about it. 

The question I have if I'm a Bears fan is will Fields develop quickly enough to pair him with a superb bunch of dawgs on D? 

For the purple, Darrisaw gives us a chance to maximize the Capt'n investment and all the magnificent weapons we have on offense. 

Cook, ISJ, AT, Jet is a pretty damn good roster...

At the bold, I think this was the better route. You got a top third QB who has been exceptional (best in the league) from a clean pocket. Why not try to give him a clean pocket more often? 

Drafting Fields would be exciting. And scary. And it would cause so much fan and media chaos and nonsense. Vikings were wise to avoid that with a top QB already on board. The lowball trade offer was probably them publicly showing interest in a QB and avoiding it at the same time. 

The offensive weapons are top level. Just saw where the top WR duo (according to PFF grade) was ours. 2nd was the Bills. In other words, Diggs. So that says a lot right there. I think the Falcons and Bucs were up there. Now, how many of those top duos have a back like Cook? There can't be a better QB-RB-WR-WR  combo in the NFL. 

The offer was very feeble so not like we had a true conviction/desire to take a particular player at 8.  I think the offer was to get Slater, not Fields.  But again just a flyer trade offer.  I had Darrisaw right there with Slater so I am thrilled we were able to get Darrisaw and two other draft picks - Spelly is a draft master - IMO.  I think Darrisaw is a true LT while Slater might be a RT/Guard down the road.

Basically - I was pre draft and now post draft that Darrisaw was the better prospect for us.  I know most had Slater.
I also think the Bears got very very good value in Fields.  In almost any other draft in the last 15 years Fields would have been a Top 1 -3 pick - IMO.   

@"minny65" said: The offer was very feeble so not like we had a true conviction/desire to take a particular player at 8.  I think the offer was to get Slater, not Fields.  But again just a flyer trade offer.  I had Darrisaw right there with Slater so I am thrilled we were able to get Darrisaw and two other draft picks - Spelly is a draft master - IMO.  I think Darrisaw is a true LT while Slater might be a RT/Guard down the road.

Basically - I was pre draft and now post draft that Darrisaw was the better prospect for us.  I know most had Slater.
I also think the Bears got very very good value in Fields.  In almost any other draft in the last 15 years Fields would have been a Top 1 -3 pick - IMO.   

yes, I agree, the target was Slater, not Fields. I knew he wouldn't get past the Chargers and that's why they went to 8,9, & 10 to try and get him.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Akvike" said: well I wouldn't say he cost us nothing--there is opportunity cost of player x at his spot but no additional capital to sellect him.

Just saying that we generated the capital ourselves to make that pick. It didn't exist going into the draft. What's more, it didn't cost the Vikings anything to generate that capital. We took Darrisaw at 23 and we likely would've taken Darrisaw at 14. That's what I mean by no cost. 

@"MaroonBells" said: The offensive weapons are top level. Just saw where the top WR duo (according to PFF grade) was ours. 2nd was the Bills. In other words, Diggs. So that says a lot right there. I think the Falcons and Bucs were up there. Now, how many of those top duos have a back like Cook? There can't be a better QB-RB-WR-WR  combo in the NFL. 

And just like that, Dustin Baker runs the numbers. There isn't. 

I took every team's QB1, RB1, WR1, WR2, and TE1 and tabulated 2020 PFF scores for each per current roster. Then, I combined them for a "score."

Well, well, well. pic.twitter.com/mwRi79TaFs

— Dustin Baker (@DustBaker) May 28, 2021

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: The offensive weapons are top level. Just saw where the top WR duo (according to PFF grade) was ours. 2nd was the Bills. In other words, Diggs. So that says a lot right there. I think the Falcons and Bucs were up there. Now, how many of those top duos have a back like Cook? There can't be a better QB-RB-WR-WR  combo in the NFL. 

And just like that, Dustin Baker runs the numbers. There isn't. 

I took every team's QB1, RB1, WR1, WR2, and TE1 and tabulated 2020 PFF scores for each per current roster. Then, I combined them for a "score."

Well, well, well. pic.twitter.com/mwRi79TaFs

— Dustin Baker (@DustBaker) May 28, 2021

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: The offensive weapons are top level. Just saw where the top WR duo (according to PFF grade) was ours. 2nd was the Bills. In other words, Diggs. So that says a lot right there. I think the Falcons and Bucs were up there. Now, how many of those top duos have a back like Cook? There can't be a better QB-RB-WR-WR  combo in the NFL. 

And just like that, Dustin Baker runs the numbers. There isn't. 

I took every team's QB1, RB1, WR1, WR2, and TE1 and tabulated 2020 PFF scores for each per current roster. Then, I combined them for a "score."

Well, well, well. pic.twitter.com/mwRi79TaFs

— Dustin Baker (@DustBaker) May 28, 2021

If there's any justice in the world, that line (with two 1sts, two 2nds and a 3rd) will rise up to join them this season.