Peter King Thinks Vikings Suck

Peter might have had a little too much "beernerdness" when writing this article

I knew that the team would be underrated this year by the media. But I've also seen some 'they could lose 11 games or win 11 games' type stuff, alluding that they have some talent. 

It's expected from the talking heads. There are a lot of factors and some new additions so we'll see what happens. I am letting go of expectations. 

@"MaroonBells" said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/23/nfl-power-rankings-peter-king-fmia/

Vikings come in 24th. Last year's 24th ranked team won 5 games. Interesting how the Vikings add Hunter, Pierce, Tomlinson, Barr, Kendricks and Peterson and lose three more games because of it.

Also, If anyone wants to, it's fun to compare the 49ers to the Vikings, each team's key players returning from injury, the QB/RB/WR combos, etc. and try to figure out how one ranks 5th and the other 24th. 

Being overlooked is a good thing or the Vikings, and as long as things like this continue to influence Vegas, it's good for my bank account, too, but still, pretty crazy stuff. 

Just sayin'...

@"StickyBun" said: I knew that the team would be underrated this year by the media. But I've also seen some 'they could lose 11 games or win 11 games' type stuff, alluding that they have some talent. 

Unless the Vikings get hit by the injury bug again (unlikely two years in a row), then this is a 10 to 11 win team. If those rookie offensive linemen play well, the upside is a 13 to 14 win team IMO.

It's like everyone forgot Hunter, Barr, Kendricks coming back, not to mention the two IDLs we signed...not to mention we already had what is probably the NFL's best RB/WR/WR. And ya know what? The QB ain't half bad either. 

I'm always reasonably optimistic about the Vikings, but in 50 years of being a fan, I don't remember a year where the media was so far out of sync with the objective realities of our roster. 

@"Wetlander" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/23/nfl-power-rankings-peter-king-fmia/

Vikings come in 24th. Last year's 24th ranked team won 5 games. Interesting how the Vikings add Hunter, Pierce, Tomlinson, Barr, Kendricks and Peterson and lose three more games because of it.

Also, If anyone wants to, it's fun to compare the 49ers to the Vikings, each team's key players returning from injury, the QB/RB/WR combos, etc. and try to figure out how one ranks 5th and the other 24th. 

Being overlooked is a good thing or the Vikings, and as long as things like this continue to influence Vegas, it's good for my bank account, too, but still, pretty crazy stuff. 

Well...  the 49ers were in the Super Bowl prior to suffering a ton of injuries to key players last season.  Meanwhile, the Vikings high water mark with Cousins is 10-6 and a wild card playoff win.

Just sayin'...

@"MaroonBells" said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/23/nfl-power-rankings-peter-king-fmia/

Vikings come in 24th. Last year's 24th ranked team won 5 games. Interesting how the Vikings add Hunter, Pierce, Tomlinson, Barr, Kendricks and Peterson and lose three more games because of it.

Also, If anyone wants to, it's fun to compare the 49ers to the Vikings, each team's key players returning from injury, the QB/RB/WR combos, etc. and try to figure out how one ranks 5th and the other 24th. 

Being overlooked is a good thing or the Vikings, and as long as things like this continue to influence Vegas, it's good for my bank account, too, but still, pretty crazy stuff. 

So here's a different way to look at it.  Peter King's goal is to generate clicks that generate ad revenue.  I don't know of a way to gauge the number of fans a team would have better then TV viewership?  By all means if there's a better way I'm all ears?
So if I come at this as a way to generate clicks I'd probably say good stuff about teams with lots of fans and I'd probably say bad/controversial things about teams that are middle of the pack and down.
Dallas comes in as the top viewed team in terms of TV viewership.  I would expect that there is quite a bit of casual fans in that equation but Dallas Fort Worth is huge.  So I get some freebee clicks if I'm ultra positive about them from the casual fans and obviously get the diehards.  If I say a high viewed team is gonna suck I probably don't get as many casual fans?

If I'm writing to the middle of the pack sized or lower fan bases I'd think controversial would probably generate more clicks?

Anyway, didn't mean to side track this.  Just coming at it from a different angle. 

https://www.sportico.com/business/media/2020/top-rated-nfl-games-1234616911/

Had the vikings had any semblance of a defense last year they would have won at minimum 11 games.  Cousins led the team on a winning drive vs Tennessee, seattle and Dallas and the defense let the other team walk down the field.  (chicago game could have been won as well with any defense)

That was a team that was starting players off the street, had no pass rush and no true nose tackle along with 2 rookies.  We are winning the division.

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/23/nfl-power-rankings-peter-king-fmia/

Vikings come in 24th. Last year's 24th ranked team won 5 games. Interesting how the Vikings add Hunter, Pierce, Tomlinson, Barr, Kendricks and Peterson and lose three more games because of it.

Also, If anyone wants to, it's fun to compare the 49ers to the Vikings, each team's key players returning from injury, the QB/RB/WR combos, etc. and try to figure out how one ranks 5th and the other 24th. 

Being overlooked is a good thing or the Vikings, and as long as things like this continue to influence Vegas, it's good for my bank account, too, but still, pretty crazy stuff. 

So here's a different way to look at it.  Peter King's goal is to generate clicks that generate ad revenue.  I don't know of a way to gauge the number of fans a team would have better then TV viewership?  By all means if there's a better way I'm all ears?
So if I come at this as a way to generate clicks I'd probably say good stuff about teams with lots of fans and I'd probably say bad/controversial things about teams that are middle of the pack and down.
Dallas comes in as the top viewed team in terms of TV viewership.  I would expect that there is quite a bit of casual fans in that equation but Dallas Fort Worth is huge.  So I get some freebee clicks if I'm ultra positive about them from the casual fans and obviously get the diehards.  If I say a high viewed team is gonna suck I probably don't get as many casual fans?

If I'm writing to the middle of the pack sized or lower fan bases I'd think controversial would probably generate more clicks?

Anyway, didn't mean to side track this.  Just coming at it from a different angle. 

https://www.sportico.com/business/media/2020/top-rated-nfl-games-1234616911/

@"VikeMike52" said:

Gil Brandt

@Gil_Brandt

I think we'll have at least one team in the Super Bowl this year with a head coach making his SB debut. My favorite candidates include Sean McDermott, Kevin Stefanski, Mike Zimmer and Frank Reich. I would also add the team with Aaron Rodgers. Who is your choice?

The Godfather disagrees.

@"greediron" said:

@"VikeMike52" said:

Gil Brandt

@Gil_Brandt

I think we'll have at least one team in the Super Bowl this year with a head coach making his SB debut. My favorite candidates include Sean McDermott, Kevin Stefanski, Mike Zimmer and Frank Reich. I would also add the team with Aaron Rodgers. Who is your choice?

The Godfather disagrees.

so what would be the ideal matchup for the Vikes.  I know he said one team... but, Zim versus Stef?  Vikings vs Buffalo?  Zim's revenge on Reich?

@"VikeMike52" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"VikeMike52" said:

Gil Brandt

@Gil_Brandt

I think we'll have at least one team in the Super Bowl this year with a head coach making his SB debut. My favorite candidates include Sean McDermott, Kevin Stefanski, Mike Zimmer and Frank Reich. I would also add the team with Aaron Rodgers. Who is your choice?

The Godfather disagrees.

so what would be the ideal matchup for the Vikes.  I know he said one team... but, Zim versus Stef?  Vikings vs Buffalo?  Zim's revenge on Reich?

I think they would all be pretty tough and any of them beatable.  Vikes have a hard schedule, I hope that prepares them for the post season.  To be the best you have to beat the best.

The real reason why we won't get to the SB is that there will be a team in the NFCC game that we have to beat.

Oh well, there are many who think Peter King sucks

peter King never likes the Vikings

I don't see the Vikings as a 5-win team. New interior DL, several starters returning from injuries, and more experience in the secondary. On offense, Cousins a top 15 QB paired with Jefferson, Thielen, Cook, and Smith and they finally have a young OL to build around. It's fine to question the youth/inexperience on the OL, whether Hunter comes back at full strength, if a pass rusher opposite of him emerges, and questions on special teams, but I see their floor more at 8-9 wins and their ceiling will depend on how well the OL comes together, staying healthy on D, and not being a complete disaster on special teams.

@"VikeMike52" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"VikeMike52" said:

Gil Brandt

@Gil_Brandt

I think we'll have at least one team in the Super Bowl this year with a head coach making his SB debut. My favorite candidates include Sean McDermott, Kevin Stefanski, Mike Zimmer and Frank Reich. I would also add the team with Aaron Rodgers. Who is your choice?

The Godfather disagrees.

so what would be the ideal matchup for the Vikes.  I know he said one team... but, Zim versus Stef?  Vikings vs Buffalo?  Zim's revenge on Reich?

I think they would all be pretty tough and any of them beatable.  Vikes have a hard schedule, I hope that prepares them for the post season.  To be the best you have to beat the best.

I agree but I think a team gets mental toughness by beating good teams among other things.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"VikeMike52" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"VikeMike52" said:

Gil Brandt

@Gil_Brandt

I think we'll have at least one team in the Super Bowl this year with a head coach making his SB debut. My favorite candidates include Sean McDermott, Kevin Stefanski, Mike Zimmer and Frank Reich. I would also add the team with Aaron Rodgers. Who is your choice?

The Godfather disagrees.

so what would be the ideal matchup for the Vikes.  I know he said one team... but, Zim versus Stef?  Vikings vs Buffalo?  Zim's revenge on Reich?

I think they would all be pretty tough and any of them beatable.  Vikes have a hard schedule, I hope that prepares them for the post season.  To be the best you have to beat the best.

Tom Brady has a couple fists full of rings that say otherwise... the Pats IMO were aided by never really having a difficult schedule since they spent the last 2 decades in what was typically the least competitive conference in the game,  sure they had to play a first place schedule quite often,  but having the phins, bills, and jets to get healthy on is like getting some extra bye weeks every year.

of course we have the lions and yet Zimmer has had his hands full dealing with that perennial cellar dweller.