Vikings were ready to take Justin Fields: ESPN.com

@"Tyr" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: There is a lot kind of loaded into the scenario. 

1. When the Vikings discussing a trade up into the #7/8 area it was for Sewell not Fields. 
2. When the Giants came on the clock at #11 they had interest in Slater at that point
3a. Based on how the board fell if the Giants kept their pick the Cowboys weren't going to move and the Chargers were definitely taking Slater.
3b. They would have taken Fields at #14 since he fell into their lap. He has franchise QB upside and it he would have fallen into your lap. I don't think the team was convinced he was their guy which is why they wouldn't have traded futures to make it happen. But they would have taken him over Darrisaw or AVT. 

That seems reasonable. Their primary interest was the top two LTs and they would have taken Fields if he fell into their lap, but they didn't want to give up significant future assets to get him. Do you think the Vikings would have still taken Darrisaw if Phillips or Paye were available at 23?

No one seems to be talking about why Denver didn't just take Fields at 9. They have Teddy and Lock competing which is solid, but certainly wouldn't preclude them from picking a potential franchise QB. Are they hoping to swing a deal for Rodgers? 

@"MaroonBells" said: No one seems to be talking about why Denver didn't just take Fields at 9. They have Teddy and Lock competing which is solid, but certainly wouldn't preclude them from picking a potential franchise QB. Are they hoping to swing a deal for Rodgers? 

@"BarrNone55" said:

Josh Norris

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Leno was an incredible 7th round selection. 94 career starts.

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Ian Rapoport

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The #Bears will be releasing LT Charles Leno, source said, their starter the last seven seasons. A surprise move. Chicago drafted OK St’s Teven Jenkins in the second round and plans to play him on the left side. Leno now available for LT-needy teams.

Lol. This will help.

@"purplefaithful" said: I'm going to be the contrarian on this one...

Fields turns out to be franchise ceiling? With that D? 

This could turn out to be a shift of NFC power that nobody is grasping yet.  

Hope I'm wrong...

@"nawlinsvike" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

Josh Norris

@JoshNorris

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Leno was an incredible 7th round selection. 94 career starts.

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Ian Rapoport

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The #Bears will be releasing LT Charles Leno, source said, their starter the last seven seasons. A surprise move. Chicago drafted OK St’s Teven Jenkins in the second round and plans to play him on the left side. Leno now available for LT-needy teams.

Lol. This will help.

From everything i read pre-draft, Jenkins was solely projected to be a RT in the NFL.  Could be interesting.

@"greediron" said:

@"Mattyman" said: Bears 1st round picks since 2017

Tribisky - 2017
Roquam Smith- 2018
2019-No pick
2020-No pick
2021-Fields
2022- No pick

Ouch.

And this is why I am not overly worried about the Bears becoming the powerhouse.  They don't draft well, and then they give away their picks for bad players or players with a high salary (Mack).  Their pipeline of talent has got to be empty.

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Fields > Monds

Monds + 2022 1st round pick > Fields

Also, with a GAPPING HOLE at LT, I seriously doubt Fields was the target. It's been reported that we did extra leg work on Day 2 QBs. That makes a ton more sense than trading up for QB3.

I'd also put it like this:

Mond/Darrisaw + 2022 1st Round Pick > Fields

@"Magnus10" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Fields > Monds

Monds + 2022 1st round pick > Fields

Also, with a GAPPING HOLE at LT, I seriously doubt Fields was the target. It's been reported that we did extra leg work on Day 2 QBs. That makes a ton more sense than trading up for QB3.

I'd also put it like this:

Mond/Darrisaw + 2022 1st Round Pick > Fields

It’s too early to make a final judgment.  If Fields turns out to be the next Russell Wilson, and Mond does not develop to become a mid tier staring Qb, then we very well may look back and wish we had done more to land Fields.    Ask the Chiefs and Bills if they gave up too much to get Mahomes and Allen.   

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"Tyr" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: There is a lot kind of loaded into the scenario. 

1. When the Vikings discussing a trade up into the #7/8 area it was for Sewell not Fields. 
2. When the Giants came on the clock at #11 they had interest in Slater at that point
3a. Based on how the board fell if the Giants kept their pick the Cowboys weren't going to move and the Chargers were definitely taking Slater.
3b. They would have taken Fields at #14 since he fell into their lap. He has franchise QB upside and it he would have fallen into your lap. I don't think the team was convinced he was their guy which is why they wouldn't have traded futures to make it happen. But they would have taken him over Darrisaw or AVT. 

That seems reasonable. Their primary interest was the top two LTs and they would have taken Fields if he fell into their lap, but they didn't want to give up significant future assets to get him. Do you think the Vikings would have still taken Darrisaw if Phillips or Paye were available at 23?

Most likely. They had Darrisaw/AVT tied on their board at #14. Phillips/Paye would have been the backups. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Magnus10" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Fields > Monds

Monds + 2022 1st round pick > Fields

Also, with a GAPPING HOLE at LT, I seriously doubt Fields was the target. It's been reported that we did extra leg work on Day 2 QBs. That makes a ton more sense than trading up for QB3.

I'd also put it like this:

Mond/Darrisaw + 2022 1st Round Pick > Fields

It’s too early to make a final judgment.  If Fields turns out to be the next Russell Wilson, and Mond does not develop to become a mid tier staring Qb, then we very well may look back and wish we had done more to land Fields.    Ask the Chiefs and Bills if they gave up too much to get Mahomes and Allen.   

Neither team had to give up anything: Mahomes slid to 10th and Allen was there at #7 for Buffalo. And if Fields had gotten to #14, he'd probably be a Viking. That's the thing and why if the hit on Mond somehow, its a home run: no move up compensation for a mistake. The Bears got REAMED in their move up for Trubisky. The team that should be concerned is the 49ers with Trey Lance: the guy has the least amount of film to watch than maybe any top 5 QB pick in history. At least Mond played enough to be the all time leading passer in Texas A & M history. Lance is as raw as sushi, but you aren't hearing much of that from the media for some reason.

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Magnus10" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Fields > Monds

Monds + 2022 1st round pick > Fields

Also, with a GAPPING HOLE at LT, I seriously doubt Fields was the target. It's been reported that we did extra leg work on Day 2 QBs. That makes a ton more sense than trading up for QB3.

I'd also put it like this:

Mond/Darrisaw + 2022 1st Round Pick > Fields

It’s too early to make a final judgment.  If Fields turns out to be the next Russell Wilson, and Mond does not develop to become a mid tier staring Qb, then we very well may look back and wish we had done more to land Fields.    Ask the Chiefs and Bills if they gave up too much to get Mahomes and Allen.   

Neither team had to give up anything: Mahomes slid to 10th and Allen was there at #7 for Buffalo. And if Fields had gotten to #14, he'd probably be a Viking. That's the thing and why if the hit on Mond somehow, its a home run: no move up compensation for a mistake. The Bears got REAMED in their move up for Trubisky. The team that should be concerned is the 49ers with Trey Lance: the guy has the least amount of film to watch than maybe any top 5 QB pick in history. At least Mond played enough to be the all time leading passer in Texas A & M history. Lance is as raw as sushi, but you aren't hearing much of that from the media for some reason.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Magnus10" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Fields > Monds

Monds + 2022 1st round pick > Fields

Also, with a GAPPING HOLE at LT, I seriously doubt Fields was the target. It's been reported that we did extra leg work on Day 2 QBs. That makes a ton more sense than trading up for QB3.

I'd also put it like this:

Mond/Darrisaw + 2022 1st Round Pick > Fields

It’s too early to make a final judgment.  If Fields turns out to be the next Russell Wilson, and Mond does not develop to become a mid tier staring Qb, then we very well may look back and wish we had done more to land Fields.    Ask the Chiefs and Bills if they gave up too much to get Mahomes and Allen.   

Neither team had to give up anything: Mahomes slid to 10th and Allen was there at #7 for Buffalo. And if Fields had gotten to #14, he'd probably be a Viking. That's the thing and why if the hit on Mond somehow, its a home run: no move up compensation for a mistake. The Bears got REAMED in their move up for Trubisky. The team that should be concerned is the 49ers with Trey Lance: the guy has the least amount of film to watch than maybe any top 5 QB pick in history. At least Mond played enough to be the all time leading passer in Texas A & M history. Lance is as raw as sushi, but you aren't hearing much of that from the media for some reason.

Chiefs traded a future 1st and a 3rd to move up from 27 to 10 to take Mahomes. 

He didn't look too happy being picked by Chicago. I don't know how well it is going to work out. They still have a lot of work to do.

F@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Magnus10" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Fields > Monds

Monds + 2022 1st round pick > Fields

Also, with a GAPPING HOLE at LT, I seriously doubt Fields was the target. It's been reported that we did extra leg work on Day 2 QBs. That makes a ton more sense than trading up for QB3.

I'd also put it like this:

Mond/Darrisaw + 2022 1st Round Pick > Fields

It’s too early to make a final judgment.  If Fields turns out to be the next Russell Wilson, and Mond does not develop to become a mid tier staring Qb, then we very well may look back and wish we had done more to land Fields.    Ask the Chiefs and Bills if they gave up too much to get Mahomes and Allen.   

Neither team had to give up anything: Mahomes slid to 10th and Allen was there at #7 for Buffalo. And if Fields had gotten to #14, he'd probably be a Viking. That's the thing and why if the hit on Mond somehow, its a home run: no move up compensation for a mistake. The Bears got REAMED in their move up for Trubisky. The team that should be concerned is the 49ers with Trey Lance: the guy has the least amount of film to watch than maybe any top 5 QB pick in history. At least Mond played enough to be the all time leading passer in Texas A & M history. Lance is as raw as sushi, but you aren't hearing much of that from the media for some reason.

Chiefs traded a future 1st and a 3rd to move up from 27 to 10 to take Mahomes. 

Thanks for the correction, hard to remember it all. Magnus, your point is noted. 

@"Magnus10" said:

F@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Magnus10" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Fields > Monds

Monds + 2022 1st round pick > Fields

Also, with a GAPPING HOLE at LT, I seriously doubt Fields was the target. It's been reported that we did extra leg work on Day 2 QBs. That makes a ton more sense than trading up for QB3.

I'd also put it like this:

Mond/Darrisaw + 2022 1st Round Pick > Fields

It’s too early to make a final judgment.  If Fields turns out to be the next Russell Wilson, and Mond does not develop to become a mid tier staring Qb, then we very well may look back and wish we had done more to land Fields.    Ask the Chiefs and Bills if they gave up too much to get Mahomes and Allen.   

Neither team had to give up anything: Mahomes slid to 10th and Allen was there at #7 for Buffalo. And if Fields had gotten to #14, he'd probably be a Viking. That's the thing and why if the hit on Mond somehow, its a home run: no move up compensation for a mistake. The Bears got REAMED in their move up for Trubisky. The team that should be concerned is the 49ers with Trey Lance: the guy has the least amount of film to watch than maybe any top 5 QB pick in history. At least Mond played enough to be the all time leading passer in Texas A & M history. Lance is as raw as sushi, but you aren't hearing much of that from the media for some reason.

Chiefs traded a future 1st and a 3rd to move up from 27 to 10 to take Mahomes. 

Thanks for the correction, hard to remember it all. Magnus, your point is noted. 

Sticky, thanks for the follow up and noting my point.   Just to make sure my memory is not completely shot (yet), I had to go back and look at what the Bills did to get Josh Allen, because I thought for sure they traded up.  
Turns out the Bills traded up twice in the first round that draft.  They traded up from #21 with the Bengals to 12 by sending Tackle Cordy Glenn and a 5th round pick.  They then traded up with the Bucs to 7 by trading them two second rounders (53) and (56).  So they did quite a bit of maneuvering.  
If Fields turns into a true high level franchise QB, My point is I hope we don’t look back and regret not doing more to get him.    I am sure the Bills and Chiefs are quite happy with how things turned out.  Of course drafting QBs in the first round is a bit of a crapshoot, and Fields could also be Dwayne Haskins 2.0, so who knows!!

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"Tyr" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: There is a lot kind of loaded into the scenario. 

1. When the Vikings discussing a trade up into the #7/8 area it was for Sewell not Fields. 
2. When the Giants came on the clock at #11 they had interest in Slater at that point
3a. Based on how the board fell if the Giants kept their pick the Cowboys weren't going to move and the Chargers were definitely taking Slater.
3b. They would have taken Fields at #14 since he fell into their lap. He has franchise QB upside and it he would have fallen into your lap. I don't think the team was convinced he was their guy which is why they wouldn't have traded futures to make it happen. But they would have taken him over Darrisaw or AVT. 

That seems reasonable. Their primary interest was the top two LTs and they would have taken Fields if he fell into their lap, but they didn't want to give up significant future assets to get him. Do you think the Vikings would have still taken Darrisaw if Phillips or Paye were available at 23?

Most likely. They had Darrisaw/AVT tied on their board at #14. Phillips/Paye would have been the backups. 

Moving up for Fields when your starting QB has a guaranteed contract for the next two years doesn't make sense to me. It makes more sense to build the team around Cousins and take a flier on a QB with a low price, but huge potential.
Maybe Fields is the guy. But Chicago paid a huge price to find out. I'm glad the Vikings didn't.

The Bears will have a hard time putting the pieces around their new QB, and their defense is aging.

Even if Mond doesn't work out, it won't hurt the Vikings going forward.

And if Mond does work out,  Rodgers will likely be gone, and the Vikings should be able to have a good team around him.

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Magnus10" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Fields > Monds

Monds + 2022 1st round pick > Fields

Also, with a GAPPING HOLE at LT, I seriously doubt Fields was the target. It's been reported that we did extra leg work on Day 2 QBs. That makes a ton more sense than trading up for QB3.

I'd also put it like this:

Mond/Darrisaw + 2022 1st Round Pick > Fields

It’s too early to make a final judgment.  If Fields turns out to be the next Russell Wilson, and Mond does not develop to become a mid tier staring Qb, then we very well may look back and wish we had done more to land Fields.    Ask the Chiefs and Bills if they gave up too much to get Mahomes and Allen.   

Neither team had to give up anything: Mahomes slid to 10th and Allen was there at #7 for Buffalo. 

I get everyones thoughts, but seriously, lets revisit in 3 years. all this is just speculation. as said, Our guy Mond has more experience and experience agianst SEC teams. Personally i think that will pay off fir Mond vs. Fields in becoming a top 10 QB in the NFL, but pure speculation. And hope. And wishes. Any my prayers to the Lord above. Bit heh, lets talk much much later and revisit this post.