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Mike Zimmer mentioned the #Vikings are looking at receivers
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#1 · Apr 29, 9:44 PM
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#2 · Apr 29, 9:49 PM
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Love to see Elijah Moore available when we pick. Also like Barmore, Nixon, Koramoah, Ojulari, Meinerz, Perkins, Bolton, Twyman, Deonte Brown etc. Plenty of good players left.

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#3 · Apr 29, 10:00 PM
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Run on DEs at the end of the first was a bummer but lucky for us we have plenty of needs! Like tonight, tomorrow will be fun. 

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#4 · Apr 29, 10:10 PM
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Best Players Remaining on Day 2:

• Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
• Azeez Ojulari
• Christian Barmore
• Teven Jenkins
• Trevon Moehrig
• Elijah Moore
• Asante Samuel Jr.

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20. Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama (6-foot-4, 310 pounds)
Barmore is naturally powerful to create immediate knockback and flashes the quickness to blast through gaps and close to the football. While he competes with violent intentions, he gets overextended and frenetic at times and must improve his reliability versus the run. Overall, Barmore comes with obvious risk due to his inexperience and the raw elements to his game, but he doesn’t stay blocked long due to his play strength, explosiveness and energy. He projects as a position-versatile NFL starter with a Pro Bowl ceiling.

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#6 · Apr 29, 10:16 PM
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29. Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington (6-foot-3, 290 pounds)
Onwuzurike fires off the snap and consistently makes plays away from his gap due to his effort and athleticism. While calling him active doesn’t do him justice, he tends to rush tall and scattered, allowing him to be redirected by blockers. Overall, Onwuzurike needs to show a more leveraged attack and stay off the ground (and stay healthy), but he is a twitchy big man with fast and physical hands and flashes NFL starting traits as a three-technique tackle.
35. Elijah Moore, WR, Ole Miss (5-foot-10, 178 pounds)
Moore plays fast, decisive and dependable and can be used as a matchup receiver in space, tracking the ball and making defenders miss. He was more of a specialty receiver in college and has plenty to prove as a downfield target. Overall, Moore doesn’t have the tape of a well-rounded receiver, but he is an athletic and controlled route runner with strong hands. He projects as a flexible chess piece who can be as productive as his volume.

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#7 · Apr 29, 10:17 PM
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42. Asante Samuel Jr., CB, Florida State (5-foot-10, 180 pounds)
Samuel plays with outstanding reaction quickness and ball awareness to turn and locate or drive on throws in front of him. His lack of size shows up in coverage and against the run, but he is a heady player who trusts his skills, very similar to his Pro Bowl father. Overall, Samuel’s smallish frame isn’t ideal, but he is twitched up with the fluid athleticism and play confidence to stay connected to routes (flashes Jaire Alexander-type ability). He projects as an NFL starter capable of playing inside or outside.
43. Trevon Moehrig, DS, TCU (6-foot-1, 202 pounds)
Moehrig was a high school cornerback and wide receiver, which is reflected on his TCU tape, where he displayed natural instincts and feel when the ball is in the air. While he is quick to trigger against both the pass and the run, he is missing an explosive finishing gear and lacks an ideal build, leading to durability concerns. Overall, Moehrig is a versatile, athletic ballhawk with the play range and anticipation to pattern-match in coverage in the mold of Jessie Bates. He projects as an immediate NFL starter (single-high or split-safety) and special-teams contributor.
44. Carlos Basham Jr., edge, Wake Forest (6-foot-3, 274 pounds)
While he can be slowed, Basham is rarely controlled due to his active play style, power and hustle, which directly leads to production. His hands have some pop, but his stiff hips show when trying to bend the corner and he must develop his pass rush sequence. Overall, Basham needs to become a more creative pass rusher, but his size, explosiveness and effort are above average and allow him to rush from different alignments. He projects similarly to the Texans’ Charles Omenihu as a starting base end with scheme versatility.

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#8 · Apr 29, 10:18 PM
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47. Joseph Ossai, edge, Texas (6-foot-4, 256 pounds)
An impressive pursuit player, Ossai is consistently around the football and makes plays that he has no business making due to his play speed and hustle. While he plays quick, he wins more with effort and his body stiffness hinders his ability to win at the top of his rush. Overall, Ossai is a linear athlete who lacks fluidity in his rush or redirect, but his foot is always on the gas with the compete skills and locked-in effort that helps mask some of his issues. He projects as a physical 3-4 edge defender.
48. Terrace Marshall Jr., WR, LSU (6-foot-3, 205 pounds)
Marshall has the build-up acceleration to eat cushion without breaking stride, and he looks like a basketball big man at the catch point, using body position and catch radius to reel in off-target throws. Similar in ways to Courtland Sutton as a prospect, he tends to rely on his size/speed and needs to hone his urgency and route mechanics for the next level. Overall, Marshall faces an adjustment period as he develops his separation skills vs. NFL coverage, but he is a field-stretcher who can climb the ladder and give his quarterback a large strike zone. He projects as an inside/outside NFL starter if the medicals check out.

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#9 · Apr 29, 10:19 PM
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Bring Terrace home.

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50. Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue (5-foot-7, 181 pounds)
While short, Moore plays stout with the fluid ease of movement and instant accelerator to force missed tackles. He was extremely productive on quick-hitting runway routes that were designed for YAC opportunities (71.2 percent of his receiving yard in college came after the catch), but he isn’t a proven commodity on intermediate and downfield routes (finding targets 10-plus yards downfield on his tape was a challenge). Overall, Moore is unpolished in areas and needs to stay on the field, but his explosive lower body, play strength and competitive edge are playmaking ingredients. He projects as a starting NFL slot receiver who can be as impactful as his workload.
52. Kelvin Joseph, CB, Kentucky (6-foot-0, 197 pounds)
A big-time athlete, Joseph has the rare ability to shadow routes without losing balance, displaying twitchy feet, fluid movements and high-end ball skills to consistently make plays. However, the sample size (nine career starts)  is a concern and his undisciplined eyes lead to completions for the offense. Overall, Joseph won’t be a fit for every organization due to maturity concerns, but he has first-round physical talent and the athleticism to blanket any type of receiver, which is why a team will likely roll the dice on him in the top 50 picks.

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#11 · Apr 29, 10:20 PM
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54. Quinn Meinerz, OG/C, Wisconsin-Whitewater (6-foot-3, 320 pounds)
Meinerz is quick and controlled post snap with the hand timing, core strength and finishing effort to impose his will. There is a level of transparency with him because there are no questions about his toughness or competitive spirit, but conversely, he lacks ideal experience and wasn’t routinely challenged at the Division III level. Overall, Meinerz faces a substantial uptick in competition at the NFL level, but his power, technique and play personality translate well to the pro game. He projects as a starting center with guard versatility.
55. Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia (6-foot-1, 193 pounds)
Campbell looks straight out of central casting with his height, length and speed, displaying the athletic ability to choke passing lanes and stay in phase with different types of route runners. Despite all the physical talent in the world, he doesn’t always play confident and opponents were not afraid to throw at him (saw 93 targets in college and only had 11 passes defended to show for it). Overall, Campbell has a rare (and raw) combination of high-end traits to develop into an NFL starting press-man corner, but his struggles to consistently find and make plays on the football are a glaring hole in his game. He will require patience at the next level, projecting as a high risk, high reward prospect.
56. Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State (6-foot-5, 251 pounds)
While not sudden, Freiermuth is an athletic mover with strong hands and a fearless demeanor, dealing with inaccurate passers who often made him work for his catches. As a blocker, he delivers strong pop at contact, but doesn’t consistently drive or generate movement, giving defenders a chance to shed and get by him. Overall, Freiermuth doesn’t have the overwhelming traits, mainly as a blocker, to live up to the “Baby Gronk” moniker given to him in college, but his athletic, competitive and dependable play style is why he projects as a high-floor NFL starter.
57. Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse (6-foot-3, 205 pounds)
Melifonwu accelerates quickly and displays the loose muscle twitch to redirect without restraint. His route recognition is still a work in progress and he needs to do a better job reading through the receiver to the backfield and get a head start on the play. Overall, Melifonwu is more reactive than instinctive and needs to improve his anticipation, but he has rare physical gifts (length, speed, fluidity) to become an NFL starter. He projects best in press-man or Cover 3 schemes.
58. Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina (6-foot-1, 189 pounds)
An above-average athlete, Brown has excellent one-cut acceleration and separation quickness, and he is highly skilled at the double-move (head jab, quick settling of his feet, etc.). Some scouts have questioned whether he has the play strength to make a living on the outside vs. NFL corners. Overall, Brown isn’t as reliable (yet) as Stefon Diggs, but he has similar size, speed and fluid adjustment skills. He projects as a starting-level NFL receiver with the big-play ability to rack up touchdowns.

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#12 · Apr 29, 10:21 PM
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64. Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson (5-foot-10, 212 pounds)
Rodgers is very natural catching the ball in stride and seamlessly becoming a ball carrier, and there is a rumble pack on the clicker when you watch his tape because you feel his play strength and toughness. He has elusive feet to shake defenders and settle in zones, but he still requires maturation as a downfield route runner. Overall, Rodgers might struggle to win on the outside vs. NFL corners, but he is a cranked-up competitor with the play strength, instincts and acceleration similar to Deebo Samuel. He projects as a versatile starting slot receiver with special teams skills.
65. Jevon Holland, DS, Oregon (6-foot-1, 207 pounds)
With his key and diagnose skills from various alignments, Holland was a disruptive defender on tape against both the pass and the run, reacting and attacking without hesitation. While he plays loose and athletic, he isn’t explosive, allowing route separation and falling a step behind in man. Overall, Holland needs to mature areas of his game in both coverage and run defense, but he is highly competitive with the natural ball skills and versatility to be a matchup defender with starting potential at nickel safety.
66. Josh Myers, OG/C, Ohio State (6-foot-5, 310 pounds)
Myers is a square, instinctive blocker with the core strength and competitive juices that allow him to consistently finish blocks. A guard in a run-only offense in high school, he is still developing his pass protection skills and will struggle at times vs. quick-handed rushers. Overall, Myers isn’t an elite athlete for the position and needs to cut back on the aggressive leaning, but he brings the desired levels of toughness, smarts and execution. He projects as a starter in the NFL at a guard or center.
67. Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC (6-foot-0, 197 pounds)
Despite average size, St. Brown can play above the rim and be a ball winner, adjusting to the ball in flight and contorting his frame. Though he has the foot quickness to uncover, his separation windows will be much smaller vs. NFL coverage. Overall, St. Brown won’t strike fear in the hearts of opponents with speed or suddenness, but he is ultra-competitive with the body control and polish to be a reliable NFL target. He projects best in the slot.

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#13 · Apr 29, 10:22 PM
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72. Brevin Jordan, TE, Miami (Fla.) (6-foot-3, 247 pounds)
A fluid mover for his size, Jordan quickly enters his route and doesn’t break stride at the catch point, tracking the ball and carrying his speed to be a seam-buster (63.3 percent of his career receiving yards came after the catch). While he gives terrific effort as a blocker, he lacks ideal size and strength in this area, which lowers his margin for error vs. NFL defenders. Overall, Jordan needs to become more detail-focused as a blocker and route-runner, but he has the athleticism and ball skills to be a three-level pass-catching threat. He projects similar to Irv Smith as a “move” tight end prospect.
73. Ronnie Perkins, edge, Oklahoma (6-foot-3, 253 pounds)
With his length and heavy hands, Perkins attacks the chest of blockers, sticking, stabbing and keeping distance. He benefited from the Sooners’ slanting attack, but he can hit his landmarks as a rusher and his play strength and pursuit keep him near the football. Overall, Perkins must develop his rush plan and arsenal of moves, but he uses his power and balanced movements to free himself from blocks and make plays. He projects as an NFL starter in a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme.
74. Dillon Radunz, OT/G, North Dakota State (6-foot-6, 301 pounds)
Although he has some core strength concerns, Radunz has a workable frame with the physical attitude and foot quickness to execute angle/reach blocks. His inconsistencies make him a polarizing prospect, but several of his issues are coachable. Overall, Radunz’s overaggressive style and average play strength lead to balance issues, but he has the mirroring talent, instincts and nasty temperament to eventually earn a starting role in the NFL at either tackle or guard.
75. Tommy Tremble, TE, Notre Dame (6-foot-3, 241 pounds)
Although his production is lacking, his tape shows the competitiveness to be a bulldozer as a run-blocker and tie up defenders in pass pro. He needs to mature as a route-runner and finisher, but he flashes the athleticism and body control to work past underneath defenders, and become available as a target. Overall, Tremble is unrefined in areas as he was underutilized as a passing target in college, but he is an ascending talent and displays the point-of-attack skills to be an asset as a blocker. He will be a better pro than college player as he continues to develop.
76. Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford (6-foot-1, 198 pounds)
Adebo stays attached to routes once he is connected, displaying the length and ball-tracking ability to consistently disrupt the catch point (34 passes defended, eight interceptions in 22 games). While he competes with confidence and toughness, negative plays usually result from inconsistent discipline and body fundamentals. Overall, Adebo is a leggy, upright athlete prone to false steps, but his size, foot agility and instinctive ball skills are traits worth gambling on. He projects best as a press-man corner who can also play in a Cover 3 scheme.
77. Jabril Cox, LB, LSU (6-foot-3, 232 pounds)
Cox is an excellent space athlete for his size and does a great job squeezing routes in either man or zone coverages. While he prefers to play in the open, he is inconsistent through contact near the line of scrimmage and must improve the consistency of his take-on and tackling skills. Overall, Cox has holes in his game, primarily with his run fits, that make it tough to love him, but he is easy to like with his smooth athleticism, spatial awareness and football character. He projects as a versatile defender with three-down potential.

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81. Daviyon Nixon, DT, Iowa (6-foot-3, 313 pounds)
Nixon has a basketball background and plays with the quickness/control to shoot gaps and the power/leverage to defeat blocks. He has an unimpressive sample size with single-digit career starts, but his improved focus over the last two seasons is something his coaches have told to NFL scouts. Overall, Nixon is still maturing in areas, but he creates disruption with his explosive traits, play violence and ball-tracking skills. He projects as a one-gap penetrator with starting ability.
82. Nico Collins, WR, Michigan (6-foot-4, 215 pounds)
Collins is a plus athlete for his size with the foot quickness and body control to win above the rim. Though he shows flashes of a playmaker, he must consistently play up to his size and improve on tight-window throws. Overall, Collins isn’t a sudden or energetic player who will consistently separate underneath, but he is an impressive height, weight, speed prospect with the smooth routes and dependability to push for an NFL starting role (N’Keal Harry style player).
83. James Hudson, OT, Cincinnati (6-foot-5, 313 pounds)
Hudson fires out of his stance and achieves a balanced position in pass pro to mirror with quick, controlled steps. With only 719 career snaps at tackle, he has some bad habits, forgetting his feet or allowing his pads to rise, but he flashes power in his upper half to create torque on command. Overall, Hudson requires continued technical refinement to match up in the NFL, but his light feet, strong hands and natural balance are an intriguing starter pack at left tackle. He would fit best in a zone scheme where he can develop into an above-average starter.
84. Kendrick Green, OG/C, Illinois (6-foot-2, 305 pounds)
An intriguing athlete, Green plays with quick feet and reaction skills to reach, pull and stay in front of the play. Although he can struggle to turn defenders or anchor vs. bull rushers, he has strength in his hands and his wrestling background shows on tape. Overall, Green won’t be an ideal fit for every scheme, but he has the movement skills, range and body control ideal for a zone-based offense. He projects as a potential starter at any of the three interior line positions.

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86. Dayo Odeyingbo, DL, Vanderbilt (6-foot-5, 285 pounds)
Odeyingbo uses forceful hands and outstanding length to create movement or detach from blocks, although he needs to play with consistent leverage to drive through his man. He has pass rush talent and operates with a competitive motor, but he is more of an inside track player than arc rusher, lacking natural move-to-move transitions. Overall, Odeyingbo’s recent Achilles injury complicates matters, but he has the length and explosive traits of a future NFL starter. He projects best as a scheme-versatile defensive end who can reduce inside on passing downs.
87. Davis Mills, QB, Stanford (6-foot-4, 217 pounds)
A loose, well-built passer, Mills shows the ability to scan, operate from various platforms and throw with touch/anticipation. He is one of the best middle-of-the-field passers in the draft, but needs time to grow and eliminate the “what are you doing?” plays from his tape. Overall, Mills is still learning the throws he should and shouldn’t make, but he has size and mobility and delivers a very catchable ball with the field-reading skills to be a developmental NFL starter, although the health of his left knee is a strong concern.
88. D’Wayne Eskridge, WR, Western Michigan (5-foot-9, 190 pounds)
With his ability to turn small plays into big plays, Eskridge is the definition of a playmaker due to his explosive feet and ability to mix his speeds as naturally as you or I breathe. He could out-athlete opponents in the Mid-American Conference, but that won’t always be the case in the NFL, and he needs scale back the wild tendencies. Overall, Eskridge is undersized and must sharpen his route tree, but he is a gifted athlete with the speed, toughness and promising pass-catching traits to warrant early NFL playing time on offense and special teams.
89. D’Ante Smith, OT, East Carolina (6-foot-5, 305 pounds)
Smith credits high school wrestling for helping him unlock his skills and develop his temperament, toughness and balance. With his eager hands, he has the tools to answer either quickness or power, but his placement and angles could be more disciplined. Overall, Smith needs to sharpen his technique, but he is an ascending offensive line prospect with intriguing tools (feet, length, flexibility) and upside to grow into a full-time NFL starter.
90. Stone Forsythe, OT, Florida (6-foot-8, 307 pounds)
Forsythe has a wide base in his pass sets and enough range to stay square, using his length to strike and keep rushers busy. His upright posture leads to leverage/recovery issues, putting more onus on his hand timing and reset skills. Overall, Forsythe will struggle to lock down a starting job in the NFL if he doesn’t improve as a run blocker, but he shows a natural feel for controlling his massive frame as a pass protector, which gives him a chance to fight for early playing time at tackle.
91. Baron Browning, LB, Ohio State (6-foot-3, 245 pounds)
Browning’s next-level role will be different from team to team because of his athletic versatility to play physical or hold up in space. The mental side of the position is still a work in progress as he shows inconsistent vision and block/fit recognition as an inside backer. Overall, Browning doesn’t consistently play with anticipation, but he is physically impressive with the size, length and athleticism to rush the passer or drop in coverage. He projects best as a SAM linebacker or designated pass rusher with down-the-road starting potential.

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#16 · Apr 29, 10:25 PM
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Basham, Levi, Cisco, Christensen, Eichenberg and Sample Day 2 - WOW!

(Not all of them but one or two:)

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They could try to move up for Koramora but cost may be too high, Moehrig as well.  Barmore would be interesting if he fell to the end of the 2nd.  I think they like some WRs on the board but that is a very deep position so they can easily wait for one in the third.   Ossai is a mid 2nd round guy that would be a nice fit,  Boogie Basham is someone I like as well.  I prefer Humphrey over Davis because of injury and Radunz and Meinerz in the same area as Davis.  Eichenburg and Cosmi I think go early 2nd.  One of my targets in the third is Marvin Wilson, who had a down year in 20 so maybe late 3rd?

Edge: Ossai, Perkens, Basham, Weaver
LB: Koramora, Ojulari, Bolton, Cox, Werner
OG: Humphrey, Eichenburg, Davis, Meinerz, Dickerson
TE: Freirmuth, Tremble, Jordan
WR: Marshall Jr, Brown, Moore(2), Eskridge, Wallace
S: Moehrig, Holland, Grant, Cisco, Nasirildeen
CB: Melifonwu, Samuel Jr, Molden, Adebo
DT: Onwuzuriki, Nixon, Wilson

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The players who stand out to me are Carlos Basham, DE, Elijah Moore, WR; Ike and Meinerz, IOL. But I think the Vikings will wait until the 3rd or 4th to add more OL and DB depth. If they move up, I think the 2nd rounder is going to be either DE or WR. Outside shot at QB. 

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Man, there is a shit ton of talent left. I was trying to list 4-5 guys I'd like, but I can't narrow it down that far. There's 4-5 WRs I'd be happy with. Eskridge or Terrace would be awesome. Boogie or Ossai or Barmore or Nixon? C'mon. 

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@"BarrNone55" said: Man, there is a shit ton of talent left. I was trying to list 4-5 guys I'd like, but I can't narrow it down that far. There's 4-5 WRs I'd be happy with. Eskridge or Terrace would be awesome. Boogie or Ossai or Barmore or Nixon? C'mon. 
Been texting some friends the exact same thing. Late second round means we give up 66 and a 4th? Mid second round is probably two 3rds? I wouldn't be shocked if the Vikes trade back into the 40s and snagged BPA on their Big Board.
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