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To date, no bong masks. Weird rumors should be hitting soon.

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#1 · Apr 22, 4:49 AM
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I want the OL to not stink as badly as anyone, but letting Rieff walk for nothing and then using 2 firsts and a 3rd to replace him would be crazy, even if you are getting an upgrade. Big no to that plan.
Moving up a few spots at a much reduced cost would be a lot more palatable.

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#22 · Apr 22, 7:59 AM
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@"pattersaur" said:
I want the OL to not stink as badly as anyone, but letting Rieff walk for nothing and then using 2 firsts and a 3rd to replace him would be crazy, even if you are getting an upgrade. Big no to that plan. Moving up a few spots at a much reduced cost would be a lot more palatable.

Its a cost savings move.  You have one of your high dollar starters (LT or QB on some teams) on a rookie deal and you can justify paying other players higher figures. 

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#23 · Apr 22, 8:03 AM
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@"AGRforever" said:
@"pattersaur" said:
I want the OL to not stink as badly as anyone, but letting Rieff walk for nothing and then using 2 firsts and a 3rd to replace him would be crazy, even if you are getting an upgrade. Big no to that plan. Moving up a few spots at a much reduced cost would be a lot more palatable.

Its a cost savings move.  You have one of your high dollar starters (LT or QB on some teams) on a rookie deal and you can justify paying other players higher figures. 


True. But there's gotta be better ways to save money than by trading two 1s and 3rd.

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#24 · Apr 22, 8:05 AM
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@"pattersaur" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"pattersaur" said:
I want the OL to not stink as badly as anyone, but letting Rieff walk for nothing and then using 2 firsts and a 3rd to replace him would be crazy, even if you are getting an upgrade. Big no to that plan. Moving up a few spots at a much reduced cost would be a lot more palatable.

Its a cost savings move.  You have one of your high dollar starters (LT or QB on some teams) on a rookie deal and you can justify paying other players higher figures. 


True. But there's gotta be better ways to save money than by trading two 1s and 3rd.


Oh I get it.  I struggle with, if you trade up for a "more sure thing" in a year when nothing is sure.  None of these OL's have played much in a year. 

I really don't want to see them draft on of the DE's at #14.  None of them strike me as one that you get impact out of and with how we rotate players I doubt Zimmer has them playing much as a rookie anyway. 

I'm holding out hope that Darrisaw will be there at #14 or that we trade down and take a 2nd tier guy and hope for the best.

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#25 · Apr 22, 8:10 AM
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MAC JONESQB, COLLEGE PLAYER
NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah and ESPN's Mel Kiper both believe the 49ers will select Alabama QB Mac Jones with the third overall pick.Neither talking head had Jones locked in at No. 3 but Kiper did give Jones a 70-percent chance of being the pick. Sentiment on who San Francisco is going to take has been all over the place since they traded up, presumably to take a quarterback. Interestingly, both Kiper and Jeremiah named North Dakota State QB Trey Lance as the runner-up at No. 3, leaving Ohio State QB Justin Fields out of the conversation. Both Kiper and Jeremiah are simply doing some informed speculating but their opinions hold some weight. Jones was originally reported to be the likely choice for HC Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers but San Francisco staff have been present at Ohio State and North Dakota state Pro Days.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/article/odds-and-ends/nfl-draft-prop-bets

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#28 · Apr 22, 8:43 AM
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
Follow up, If they traded their '21 #1, '22 #1 and '22 #3 for Lance would heads explode? 
Heads, cats, TVs, picture windows...
I'd be excited! Trading away future firsts is such a high cost that it really only makes sense to do it for a QB. I'd rather have Lance than Sewell.

Careful what you wish for I know, but for better or worse this move would at the very least get the Vikings out of the "good-not-great" cycle we've been in since about 2011.

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@"BarrNone55" said:
2nd round for Phillips... Ouch! I really like this format though with the tiers and the Blue Chippers. Good job Alex Gilstrap, whoever you are!
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#30 · Apr 22, 8:54 AM
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Remember to warm up before screaming obscenities at the TV

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#31 · Apr 22, 8:54 AM
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@"AGRforever" said:
Follow up, If they traded their '21 #1, '22 #1 and '22 #3 for Lance would heads explode? 
Yes,   and not in a good way. 
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@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1385243886184976387

Remember to warm up before screaming obscenities at the TV

I'm a trained professional, I don't need to warm up...  :)

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#33 · Apr 22, 8:57 AM
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@"pattersaur" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
Follow up, If they traded their '21 #1, '22 #1 and '22 #3 for Lance would heads explode? 
Heads, cats, TVs, picture windows...
I'd be excited! Trading away future firsts is such a high cost that it really only makes sense to do it for a QB. I'd rather have Lance than Sewell.

Careful what you wish for I know, but for better or worse this move would at the very least get the Vikings out of the "good-not-great" cycle we've been in since about 2011.



Lance is my favorite QB and I'd love to have him. Just not at that price. Vikings appear to be stacking their roster for a run this year. Lance would be great for the future--no doubt, something we have to consider--but I'd rather add a piece or two to the roster that will help our already-very-good QB win more games.  

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@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1385243886184976387

Remember to warm up before screaming obscenities at the TV

I don't know.  I was so PISSED about the New Orleans game (lots of obscenities) that I actually had to leave the room and missed the miracle. 

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#35 · Apr 22, 9:01 AM
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@"pattersaur" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
Follow up, If they traded their '21 #1, '22 #1 and '22 #3 for Lance would heads explode? 
Heads, cats, TVs, picture windows...
I'd be excited! Trading away future firsts is such a high cost that it really only makes sense to do it for a QB. I'd rather have Lance than Sewell.

Careful what you wish for I know, but for better or worse this move would at the very least get the Vikings out of the "good-not-great" cycle we've been in since about 2011.


It sure would make things interesting.  I think with Lance you either boom or bust.  If he's the 4th QB off the board there has to be a reason because his highlights look great.  So what is he doing that for a kid who looks like he has most of it going for him is missing?
I mean maybe you just get lucky and he becomes the next Mahomes and we get to experience a Superbowl in my lifetime? 

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#36 · Apr 22, 9:04 AM
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Agree with most of these posts.

If we want to trade up to 10 and jump Giants/Chargers we would have to give up 14 and 78 from a points value.  So our next pick after 10 would be 90.  Is Slater worth the move up and a 3rd?  
If we don't move up to 10, then their is the chance that both Slater and Darrisaw are gone by 14?  I think there is a big drop off from Sewell, Slater and Darrisaw from the next tier.  I would look at AVT as the next but would also advocate for a move down to pick up a second rounder where hopefully Levi (Washington 3T) might be available.

So, the scenario's:

Move up:  Slater and next pick is at 90.
Stay put:  Darrisaw is there at 14 and next pick is 78 and 90.
Drop down:  Slater/Darrisaw are both gone at 14.  Let's say we can drop down to the 20's and pick up a 2nd.  Result:  AVT and Levi.  

Here is my order of preference using above scenario's:
1 - Stay put
2 - I am leaning "drop down" but depends a lot on what we think of Cleveland at Tackle.  AVT could be Tackle but I think he might be a stud Guard so are we solving the LT position?  We also get Levi and solve the 3T.
3 - Move up for Slater.  I do like Slater ahead of Darrisaw but I don't think I want to give up pick 78.

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#37 · Apr 22, 9:23 AM
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As an aside, check out the nightmare fuel on the left:

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#38 · Apr 22, 9:41 AM
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@"AGRforever" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1385243886184976387

Remember to warm up before screaming obscenities at the TV

I don't know.  I was so PISSED about the New Orleans game (lots of obscenities) that I actually had to leave the room and missed the miracle. 



Guy I was with at the game legit left after New Orleans went ahead. Granted, I was sitting there frustrated, silent, and was thinking why does this happen all the damn time. He said he was walking away from the stadium and could hear it erupt and still kicks himself for leaving.

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#39 · Apr 22, 10:16 AM
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@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1385243886184976387

Remember to warm up before screaming obscenities at the TV

I don't know.  I was so PISSED about the New Orleans game (lots of obscenities) that I actually had to leave the room and missed the miracle. 



Guy I was with at the game legit left after New Orleans went ahead. Granted, I was sitting there frustrated, silent, and was thinking why does this happen all the damn time. He said he was walking away from the stadium and could hear it erupt and still kicks himself for leaving.

It would have been easier on me to miss it on TV vs miss it in person.  But hey....he beat the traffic!!!

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#40 · Apr 22, 10:26 AM
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@"AGRforever" said:
Follow up, If they traded their '21 #1, '22 #1 and '22 #3 for Lance would heads explode? 
A geological event would occur. The earth would open up and spew lava from uptown Charlotte.
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