Ravens preparing to trade Orlando Brown Jr.

@"BarrNone55" said: • The problem with Baltimore tackle Orlando Brown, who wants to be traded to a team who would play him at left tackle, may not be Baltimore agreeing on a fair trade. Although Brown has offered to play this season on the last year of his rookie deal ($3.38 million), he would soon need a new deal, and figuring that out in a time of such cap uncertainty could be a problem.

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: • The problem with Baltimore tackle Orlando Brown, who wants to be traded to a team who would play him at left tackle, may not be Baltimore agreeing on a fair trade. Although Brown has offered to play this season on the last year of his rookie deal ($3.38 million), he would soon need a new deal, and figuring that out in a time of such cap uncertainty could be a problem.

In the end I think the only way the Vikings will make the deal is if it costs them a 3rd round pick. Its pennies on the dollar for Baltimore but at that price if he walks the comp pick will at least be good enough to make it a worthwhile investment. Issue is that 1/3 the league will show up at that price point. 

@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1384148988497072131

Me if we land Zeus then Rousseau or Oweh.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: • The problem with Baltimore tackle Orlando Brown, who wants to be traded to a team who would play him at left tackle, may not be Baltimore agreeing on a fair trade. Although Brown has offered to play this season on the last year of his rookie deal ($3.38 million), he would soon need a new deal, and figuring that out in a time of such cap uncertainty could be a problem.

In the end I think the only way the Vikings will make the deal is if it costs them a 3rd round pick. Its pennies on the dollar for Baltimore but at that price if he walks the comp pick will at least be good enough to make it a worthwhile investment. Issue is that 1/3 the league will show up at that price point. 

would they consider swapping 1sts as a third round pick?  IMO that is as close a perfect solution as there is for both teams,  but Browns insistence on where he plays and getting paid top money are still a concern,  but still having a first round pick would take the sting away pretty quickly...especially since we still have the day 2 ammo to take the later first rounder and move up quite a bit if we saw some guy that we would have considered at 14 still in play in the later teens/ early 20s.

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: • The problem with Baltimore tackle Orlando Brown, who wants to be traded to a team who would play him at left tackle, may not be Baltimore agreeing on a fair trade. Although Brown has offered to play this season on the last year of his rookie deal ($3.38 million), he would soon need a new deal, and figuring that out in a time of such cap uncertainty could be a problem.

In the end I think the only way the Vikings will make the deal is if it costs them a 3rd round pick. Its pennies on the dollar for Baltimore but at that price if he walks the comp pick will at least be good enough to make it a worthwhile investment. Issue is that 1/3 the league will show up at that price point. 

would they consider swapping 1sts as a third round pick?  IMO that is as close a perfect solution as there is for both teams,  but Browns insistence on where he plays and getting paid top money are still a concern,  but still having a first round pick would take the sting away pretty quickly...especially since we still have the day 2 ammo to take the later first rounder and move up quite a bit if we saw some guy that we would have considered at 14 still in play in the later teens/ early 20s.

That would probably be too much from the Vikings point of view with no assurances he'd stay. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: • The problem with Baltimore tackle Orlando Brown, who wants to be traded to a team who would play him at left tackle, may not be Baltimore agreeing on a fair trade. Although Brown has offered to play this season on the last year of his rookie deal ($3.38 million), he would soon need a new deal, and figuring that out in a time of such cap uncertainty could be a problem.

In the end I think the only way the Vikings will make the deal is if it costs them a 3rd round pick. Its pennies on the dollar for Baltimore but at that price if he walks the comp pick will at least be good enough to make it a worthwhile investment. Issue is that 1/3 the league will show up at that price point. 

would they consider swapping 1sts as a third round pick?  IMO that is as close a perfect solution as there is for both teams,  but Browns insistence on where he plays and getting paid top money are still a concern,  but still having a first round pick would take the sting away pretty quickly...especially since we still have the day 2 ammo to take the later first rounder and move up quite a bit if we saw some guy that we would have considered at 14 still in play in the later teens/ early 20s.

That would probably be too much from the Vikings point of view with no assurances he'd stay. 

really,  havent they really kicked this tire enough to know what it will take to keep him here?   I would think that would have been kind of a 2 weeks ago type of thing if they had any serious interest at all.  I assumed things were closer than it sounds like they are since you mentioned they had discussions and his price was to steep to pull that trigger already.

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: • The problem with Baltimore tackle Orlando Brown, who wants to be traded to a team who would play him at left tackle, may not be Baltimore agreeing on a fair trade. Although Brown has offered to play this season on the last year of his rookie deal ($3.38 million), he would soon need a new deal, and figuring that out in a time of such cap uncertainty could be a problem.

In the end I think the only way the Vikings will make the deal is if it costs them a 3rd round pick. Its pennies on the dollar for Baltimore but at that price if he walks the comp pick will at least be good enough to make it a worthwhile investment. Issue is that 1/3 the league will show up at that price point. 

would they consider swapping 1sts as a third round pick?  IMO that is as close a perfect solution as there is for both teams,  but Browns insistence on where he plays and getting paid top money are still a concern,  but still having a first round pick would take the sting away pretty quickly...especially since we still have the day 2 ammo to take the later first rounder and move up quite a bit if we saw some guy that we would have considered at 14 still in play in the later teens/ early 20s.

That would probably be too much from the Vikings point of view with no assurances he'd stay. 

really,  havent they really kicked this tire enough to know what it will take to keep him here?   I would think that would have been kind of a 2 weeks ago type of thing if they had any serious interest at all.  I assumed things were closer than it sounds like they are since you mentioned they had discussions and his price was to steep to pull that trigger already.

The Vikings know what it will take to keep Zeus on an extended contract, its insane what he wants. Its why nobody has made a trade for him. The comp going back to the Ravens was already figured out if a deal were to happen and I can say that's the smallest thing holding it up. 

I think the Vikings are probably just going to get their OL from the draft. But there's another LT out there that hasn't really gotten much play. Eric Fisher. Former #1 overall. 2 time Pro Bowler. Just turned 30. He won't be cheap, but he'll be cheaper than Jr. Also, he's a better scheme fit and won't cost any draft capital. If the Vikings want to go defense in the first, just sign the guy. You could do it tomorrow. 

I still wonder who the Vikings were looking at when they were inquiring about the costs of moving up., or if it was a general curiosity. 

@"JimmyinSD" said: I still wonder who the Vikings were looking at when they were inquiring about the costs of moving up., or if it was a general curiosity. 

@"JimmyinSD" said: I still wonder who the Vikings were looking at when they were inquiring about the costs of moving up., or if it was a general curiosity. 

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: I still wonder who the Vikings were looking at when they were inquiring about the costs of moving up., or if it was a general curiosity. 

Unlikely, but if Sewell starts to fall we better be prepared!

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: I still wonder who the Vikings were looking at when they were inquiring about the costs of moving up., or if it was a general curiosity. 

Unlikely, but if Sewell starts to fall we better be prepared!

There are enough QBs, WRs and CBs so that if Sewell gets past the Bengals, he could drop a ways. Then you just need one key team to like Slater more. Extremely unlikely, but I've seen stranger things. 

I've heard it happens a lot where one team, thinking they had no chance at player A, scouts and falls in love with player B. Then when player A surprises by falling to them, they still go with player B. 

What kind of money does Fisher want?  Why not sign him,  trade back to add that 2nd rounder,  still go OL in the first and maybe even use one of those day 2 picks to move back up in the first to nab the USC kid to play OG,  and then have fisher, Bradbury oneill,  and a battle between the Trojan, cole, and Cleveland for the OG spots?

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: I still wonder who the Vikings were looking at when they were inquiring about the costs of moving up., or if it was a general curiosity. 

Unlikely, but if Sewell starts to fall we better be prepared!

There are enough QBs, WRs and CBs so that if Sewell gets past the Bengals, he could drop a ways. Then you just need one key team to like Slater more. Extremely unlikely, but I've seen stranger things. 

I've heard it happens a lot where one team, thinking they had no chance at player A, scouts and falls in love with player B. Then when player A surprises by falling to them, they still go with player B. 

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: I still wonder who the Vikings were looking at when they were inquiring about the costs of moving up., or if it was a general curiosity. 

Unlikely, but if Sewell starts to fall we better be prepared!

There are enough QBs, WRs and CBs so that if Sewell gets past the Bengals, he could drop a ways. Then you just need one key team to like Slater more. Extremely unlikely, but I've seen stranger things. 

I've heard it happens a lot where one team, thinking they had no chance at player A, scouts and falls in love with player B. Then when player A surprises by falling to them, they still go with player B. 

#5 being an O-lineman regardless if its Sewell or Slater probably means both are off the board or not within reach of the Vikings. Detroit/Carolina will end up being tipping points since either could go O-line, offensive weapon (WR/Pitts), or trade down with a QB needy team. If Sewell gets to #8 I have to imagine the Vikings would get rather aggressive.  

@"JimmyinSD" said: What kind of money does Fisher want?  Why not sign him,  trade back to add that 2nd rounder,  still go OL in the first and maybe even use one of those day 2 picks to move back up in the first to nab the USC kid to play OG,  and then have fisher, Bradbury oneill,  and a battle between the Trojan, cole, and Cleveland for the OG spots?

I'm on board with signing Fisher as a "luxury" if we bolster the OL aggressively through the draft like you're suggesting.
But it's the Vikings. If they sign Fisher it's because they ignored OL early in the draft and will have to rely on Fisher to get healthy and play a lot this year.

This just feels like the old annual preseason tease, “yea we were in on so & so until the price just got too prohibitive!” ...wash, rinse, & repeat—again.

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: I still wonder who the Vikings were looking at when they were inquiring about the costs of moving up., or if it was a general curiosity. 

Unlikely, but if Sewell starts to fall we better be prepared!

There are enough QBs, WRs and CBs so that if Sewell gets past the Bengals, he could drop a ways. Then you just need one key team to like Slater more. Extremely unlikely, but I've seen stranger things. 

I've heard it happens a lot where one team, thinking they had no chance at player A, scouts and falls in love with player B. Then when player A surprises by falling to them, they still go with player B. 

#5 being an O-lineman regardless if its Sewell or Slater probably means both are off the board or not within reach of the Vikings. Detroit/Carolina will end up being tipping points since either could go O-line, offensive weapon (WR/Pitts), or trade down with a QB needy team. If Sewell gets to #8 I have to imagine the Vikings would get rather aggressive.