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#Vikings coach Mike Zimmer: "I think it's been a really good offseason.''

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@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/1377343444356452352?s=19
Translation: Either Cleveland or O'Neill at LT and an edge at 14.

I'm not opposed to edge at 14 and that might actually give us the most bang for the buck. But just once or twice I would like to see what the NFL's best clean pocket QB could do with, y'know, a clean pocket. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/1377343444356452352?s=19
Translation: Either Cleveland or O'Neill at LT and an edge at 14.

I'm not opposed to edge at 14 and that might actually give us the most bang for the buck. But just once or twice I would like to see what the NFL's best clean pocket QB could do with, y'know, a clean pocket. 



Not a priority for the team obviously. I don't understand it, but there's nothing like the resounding endorsement of 'we have other players on the team at the same position' that instills great confidence and excitement. 

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Zimmer on schematic changes coming to his defense: "Offenses have changed so much the last four or five years. It's time we need to do some things differently and change and adapt. I'm actually really excited. I can't wait to get back on the field with the players."
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@"StickyBun" said:
#Vikings coach Mike Zimmer: "I think it's been a really good offseason.''



He ain't lyin. I'm not exactly the world's biggest pessimist, but my offseason plan had us taking cheap flyers on injury-prone 3T Sheldon Rankins and OG Lane Taylor, and I got yelled at for thinking we could afford THAT much. 

Instead, we got Dalvin Tomlinson, one of the top free agents available, starting corner Patrick Peterson, starting safety X Woods, and a guard who is probably Taylor's equal, but 8 years younger and infinitely more durable. So no complaints here. 

Now...just one more really good draft. 

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Mike Zimmer when asked what position Ezra Cleveland will play: "Right now, he’s right guard. But all those things can change depending on what else happens in free agency and what happens in the draft."
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Asked Zim if he could elaborate on these changes he and his staff have been working on. "Some of it is big change and some of it is minor tweaks." He says the changes have been made easier by coaching being able to assemble in person to watch film and discuss ideas.

We're going to a 3-4

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/1377343444356452352?s=19
Translation: Either Cleveland or O'Neill at LT and an edge at 14.

I'm not opposed to edge at 14 and that might actually give us the most bang for the buck. But just once or twice I would like to see what the NFL's best clean pocket QB could do with, y'know, a clean pocket. 



Not a priority for the team obviously. I don't understand it, but there's nothing like the resounding endorsement of 'we have other players on the team at the same position' that instills great confidence and excitement. 




We're a month out from the draft...  I'd take anything Zimmer or Spielman say with a grain of salt from here until draft night.  It's no time to make your intentions known unless your the Jags with the #1 pick.

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@"BarrNone55" said:
Asked Zim if he could elaborate on these changes he and his staff have been working on. "Some of it is big change and some of it is minor tweaks." He says the changes have been made easier by coaching being able to assemble in person to watch film and discuss ideas.

We're going to a 3-4



Don't see the 3-4. Wasn't that supposed to be last year with Capers?  Tomlinson and Pierce don't strike me as 3-4 guys, neither does Hunter.

I think it is in coverage that we change up.  Watching what Tampa did, moving to more zone.  Coverage and pressure concepts are where Zim thrives.  Now that he has some experience on the back end again, his coverage concepts will be new.

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@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/1377343444356452352?s=19
Does he mean the good players that couldn't beat out the really bad players last year?
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@"PurplePastor" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/1377343444356452352?s=19
Does he mean the good players that couldn't beat out the really bad players last year?

No we keep a secret stash of OL in a cage at winter park. 

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How are the #Vikings going to replace Riley Reiff?

Mike Zimmer: "We've got Rashod Hill back, we've got Udoh back, we've got O'Neill back, we've got Cleveland. All those guys are good players, so we'll keep figuring it out and go from there."

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@"BarrNone55" said:
Asked Zim if he could elaborate on these changes he and his staff have been working on. "Some of it is big change and some of it is minor tweaks." He says the changes have been made easier by coaching being able to assemble in person to watch film and discuss ideas.

We're going to a 3-4



No. It's a 17 game season this year.  ;)

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@"greediron" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
Asked Zim if he could elaborate on these changes he and his staff have been working on. "Some of it is big change and some of it is minor tweaks." He says the changes have been made easier by coaching being able to assemble in person to watch film and discuss ideas.

We're going to a 3-4



Don't see the 3-4. Wasn't that supposed to be last year with Capers?  Tomlinson and Pierce don't strike me as 3-4 guys, neither does Hunter.

I think it is in coverage that we change up.  Watching what Tampa did, moving to more zone.  Coverage and pressure concepts are where Zim thrives.  Now that he has some experience on the back end again, his coverage concepts will be new.



Both guys have played in a 3-4 before.  Hunter could be a 5 or edge in a stand up guy like Chandler Jones.

But, your probably right about the coverage. Especially with P2 being better in zone.

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#Vikings coach Mike Zimmer: "I like bringing in guys when people say that (they were coming off subpar seasons).''
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I think we had a pretty good offseason so far, but I would
say that if our OLine regresses, so will my feelings on how we did.

I think we’ve done a pretty good job of getting high value
players without breaking the bank and improving the roster as a whole, but we’re
putting a lot of faith in us coming out of the draft with 2 starters on the
OLine.  I think there’s a very real
chance that our OLine regresses far enough that our skill position players won’t
be able to compensate.

I think if we go into the draft with the same roster we have
now, our first 2 picks need to be OLine, but I just don’t see Spielman being
able to invest that heavily in the big uglies.

I think we’re probably in line for a 9-8 to 10-7 season with
a first round exit in the playoffs.  I
think if our OLine regresses, we’ll be back to seeing more bad Kirk, and our
season will again be heavily dependent on Cook staying healthy.

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Mike Zimmer said he was "down in the dumps" at times when looking at his depth chart at the end of the season. He said the Vikings' additions in free agency have "rejuvenated" him.
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Me too, Mike. Me too.

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@"medaille" said: I think we had a pretty good offseason so far, but I would say that if our OLine regresses, so will my feelings on how we did.

I think we’ve done a pretty good job of getting high value
players without breaking the bank and improving the roster as a whole, but we’re
putting a lot of faith in us coming out of the draft with 2 starters on the
OLine.  I think there’s a very real
chance that our OLine regresses far enough that our skill position players won’t
be able to compensate.

I think if we go into the draft with the same roster we have
now, our first 2 picks need to be OLine, but I just don’t see Spielman being
able to invest that heavily in the big uglies.

I think we’re probably in line for a 9-8 to 10-7 season with
a first round exit in the playoffs.  I
think if our OLine regresses, we’ll be back to seeing more bad Kirk, and our
season will again be heavily dependent on Cook staying healthy.


Well we certainly need a LT after losing Reiff.  I am ok with it being Cleveland, that is why he was drafted.  But then we need a guard.  or 2.  So ideally we pick an LT round 1, leave Cleveland at guard (with the capability of moving to LT if needed in the future) and then a guard round 3-4.  

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