Am I the only one that doubts QB Mac Jones?

So if Jones is there at 14 does Rick grab him?   

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Albert Breer

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49ers coach Kyle Shanahan asked on going to Alabama Pro Day tomorrow, and not North Dakota State or BYU, says it was important for the team not to tip its hand before the trade was done.

"Now that you're up at 3, you don't have to hide as much."

Well damn. I guess there you have it?

IT will be Lance. You dont trade up to 3 unless you KNOW you will get your guy. Lance is the ONLY guy guaranteed to be there at 3.

I'm not even sure what that means. You don't trade up a month before the draft for "your guy." You trade up to three because you've identified three players you'd be very happy with, regardless of which one remains. Since we know it's a QB, it's fairly obvious two are Lawrence and Wilson. So the question is...who's the 3rd? Sure, it could be Lance. Could also be Fields. But it could also be Jones. If I were putting money on it, I'd bet on Jones. 

@"comet52" said: So if Jones is there at 14 does Rick grab him?   

@"StickyBun" said:

@"comet52" said: So if Jones is there at 14 does Rick grab him?   

I hope they pass.

@"comet52" said: So if Jones is there at 14 does Rick grab him?   

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"comet52" said: So if Jones is there at 14 does Rick grab him?   

Well, it would allow them to move on from KC after 2022. Essentially, you would get KC level play for a lot less hit on the cap.

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James Palmer

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4 FBS QBs since 2000 to have a 70+ comp % & a TD-INT ratio of at least 10:1 in a single season.

Mac Jones in 2020 (77.4%, 41 TD, 4 INT)
Joe Burrow in 2019 (76.3%, 60 TD, 6 INT)
Tua Tagovailoa in 2019 (71.4%, 33 TD, 3 INT)
Zach Wilson in 2020 (73.5%, 33 TD, 3 INT)

"Per ESPN stats and info, Jones registered a QBR of 78.3 when pressured and a 97.3 QBR when blitzed, which speaks to his ability to quickly process what's in front of him and get the ball out. Fields, who sometimes holds onto the ball too long and struggled against pressure last season, registered a QBR of 22.6 when pressured over his last 13 games and 81.1 when blitzed. For context, Zach Wilson ranked second in the class with a 44.0 QBR when pressured, which is quite good, which goes to show how impressive Jones' numbers are."

Mac Jones is a legit NFL QB prospect IMO.  He's good moving around in the pocket when he feels pressure and he does a good of finding the open guy and making plays.  Yes, he was surrounded by a ton of talent, but so was Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow and I don't see anyone holding that against them.

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@"BarrNone55" said:

James Palmer

@JamesPalmerTV

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4 FBS QBs since 2000 to have a 70+ comp % & a TD-INT ratio of at least 10:1 in a single season.

Mac Jones in 2020 (77.4%, 41 TD, 4 INT)
Joe Burrow in 2019 (76.3%, 60 TD, 6 INT)
Tua Tagovailoa in 2019 (71.4%, 33 TD, 3 INT)
Zach Wilson in 2020 (73.5%, 33 TD, 3 INT)

"Per ESPN stats and info, Jones registered a QBR of 78.3 when pressured and a 97.3 QBR when blitzed, which speaks to his ability to quickly process what's in front of him and get the ball out. Fields, who sometimes holds onto the ball too long and struggled against pressure last season, registered a QBR of 22.6 when pressured over his last 13 games and 81.1 when blitzed. For context, Zach Wilson ranked second in the class with a 44.0 QBR when pressured, which is quite good, which goes to show how impressive Jones' numbers are."

Mac Jones is a legit NFL QB prospect IMO.  He's good moving around in the pocket when he feels pressure and he does a good of finding the open guy and making plays.  Yes, he was surrounded by a ton of talent, but so was Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow and I don't see anyone holding that against them.

Really hoping the Lions fall on the Fields grenade. Maybe we'll get lucky and the Bears will trade up for him? 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

Really hoping the Lions fall on the Fields grenade. Maybe we'll get lucky and the Bears will trade up for him? 

Definitely dont want the Bears to solve their QB problem...That's the 2009 Vikings team b4 Favre, just waiting for that last piece. 

49ers twitter is just seething that their team might take Mac Jones at #3. LOL They could still do any number of things, but Jones is the most likely IMO.

I get how he had a great team around him. Just don't know how that makes you a bad QB. And the Cousins thing? You could do a lot worse than picking Cousins at #3. Of course, you hope for more, but the reality is that it's more likely you're getting Daniel Jones or Haskins or Darnold or Mariota or Winston or Wentz or Goff. And every team that picked those guys would love to have Cousins at QB right now. 

bottom line is, if you've ever said "kirk cousins is my ideal quarterback," you ain't no damn genius. and if "he reminds me of kirk cousins" makes you take a guy no. 3 -- you took cousins in the 4th round -- you are a fool.

which is why i kinda think the 49ers go lance or fields

— bomani (@bomani_jones) April 12, 2021

@"MaroonBells" said: 49ers twitter is just seething that their team might take Mac Jones at #3. LOL They could still do any number of things, but Jones is the most likely IMO.

I get how he had a great team around him. Just don't know how that makes you a bad QB. And the Cousins thing? You could do a lot worse than picking Cousins at #3. Of course, you hope for more, but the reality is that it's more likely you're getting Daniel Jones or Haskins or Darnold or Mariota or Winston or Wentz or Goff. And every team that picked those guys would love to have Cousins at QB right now. 

https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/1381583692456427521?s=20

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Albert Breer

@AlbertBreer

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49ers coach Kyle Shanahan asked on going to Alabama Pro Day tomorrow, and not North Dakota State or BYU, says it was important for the team not to tip its hand before the trade was done.

"Now that you're up at 3, you don't have to hide as much."

Well damn. I guess there you have it?

IT will be Lance. You dont trade up to 3 unless you KNOW you will get your guy. Lance is the ONLY guy guaranteed to be there at 3.

I'm not even sure what that means. You don't trade up a month before the draft for "your guy." You trade up to three because you've identified three players you'd be very happy with, regardless of which one remains. Since we know it's a QB, it's fairly obvious two are Lawrence and Wilson. So the question is...who's the 3rd? Sure, it could be Lance. Could also be Fields. But it could also be Jones. If I were putting money on it, I'd bet on Jones. 

This. Weirdly good things could happen at this #3 spot. They for sure love their QB board at the very least for the Top 3, but what if some dumb GM takes a player outside a QB at #2? Or a team trades up to the #2 spot for a non-QB? I mean, crazy stuff has happened. Not probably, but not impossible either.

Won't matter to the 49ers. They'll just have two QBs to choose from instead of one. But it's so expensive to move up, I can't imagine a team moving to the top of the draft for anyone but Wilson or Lawrence. 

I would jump on Fields if he fell to 14 but not Lance.  Not enough game time for me and they had him run first, then drop back and if no open WR then run again.  I know running QB's are in-vogue right now but Lance is not built like Lamar Jackson.  He is built more like Daunte and we all know how his career ended on a running play.  Bigger then many LB's and it does not matter in the open field with these assassin expert secondaries with much smaller guys, they will take you out.  I think Lamar is going to learn to pass more and run less very soon.  I hope it is not the hard way.  

@"BarrNone55" said:

MAC JONESQB, COLLEGE PLAYER

NFL analyst Greg Cosell said "desperation" is driving teams to try to land one of the NFL Draft's top quarterbacks. We could, for the first time in league history, see QBs drafted with the first four picks in the upcoming NFL Draft. “In a league that has veered dramatically toward the passing game and toward three and four-receiver sets, it makes sense the quarterback becomes more in demand,” Cosell told NBC Sports' Peter King. “You need a really good quarterback to play the game that exists now. It leads to the need, and sometimes the desperation, of trying to find ‘that guy.’" The success rate for highly-drafted quarterbacks has been a disaster of late: None of the 15 quarterbacks picked in the top-10 from 2009 to 2016 are on their original teams. King quoted a "middle-aged coach whose team is in the market to draft a quarterback" this year who said Trevor Lawrence is clearly the No. 1 pick, but that he has three receivers, a tight end, and two offensive tackles ahead of the next signal caller. NFL teams' thirst for franchise quarterbacks is understandable, and will likely normalize desperate QB picks among the first ten picks in many drafts to come.  RELATED: 

• San Francisco 49ers

In 2009 teams were running bounties and the overtime rules hadn’t been updated yet. A LOT has changed since then and a lot of very promising QBs have been drafted in 2017-2020. 

The Vikings aren’t really in position to get one this year and I’m at peace with that reality but for a team like Atlanta who is sitting at #4 I’d absolutely be taking a looooooong look at drafting a QB. 

Like Guru said you don’t need a hall of famer in this scenario. It’s can you get league-average play for a fraction of the price of Matt Ryan? If the answer is yes then you probably do it and also look to trade Julio before 2022 too. That’s about $50M in salary they’d net by shedding their aging QB/WR tandem.

To me that makes more sense than Kyle Pitts IF they think the rookie can be league-average or better. 

@MaroonBells Cover your ears.

Brooks is calling Pitts the best player in the draft. I watched enough Gator football to realize he's pretty much a unicorn. I think with the slightest bit of imagination, you can give DCs nightmares. He's a field tilter.

@"BarrNone55" said: @MaroonBells Cover your ears.

Brooks is calling Pitts the best player in the draft. I watched enough Gator football to realize he's pretty much a unicorn. I think with the slightest bit of imagination, you can give DCs nightmares. He's a field tilter.

@"BarrNone55" said: @MaroonBells Cover your ears.

Brooks is calling Pitts the best player in the draft. I watched enough Gator football to realize he's pretty much a unicorn. I think with the slightest bit of imagination, you can give DCs nightmares. He's a field tilter.