Vikings get a new OL. Mason Cole
For a 6th rounder from AZ
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
@"MaroonBells" said: I like that the Vikings didn't just go with the next free agent guard on the list. Instead, they did their research and invested some draft capital on a guy that works for them.We all batted around Forrest Lamp and Lane Taylor and a few others, but we're gamblers. Clearly, Vikings had other ideas. Lamp has enormous upside, but he's been hurt almost every season he's been a pro. Taylor not much different. Cole's draft profile calls him: "Beyond durable...incredible durability dating all the way back to his high school days."
I like that he's just 24. Younger than Garrett Bradbury. So he's still developing. Vikings don't draft OL particularly well, so instead of drafting the next Willie Beavers, they go get a very young middle round guard and pay a 6th for him. If he plays well, Cole can be a long-term answer. Might they be thinking the same at LT?
I like that his PFF pass blocking grades his two starts at guard would rank higher than any of our interior linemen graded last year. And both against pretty good DLs in Tampa and San Francisco.
when you put it that way...
But then on the flip side, I hear we brought him in just to bolster Tomlinson's ego in practice.
@"greediron" said:@"MaroonBells" said: I like that the Vikings didn't just go with the next free agent guard on the list. Instead, they did their research and invested some draft capital on a guy that works for them.We all batted around Forrest Lamp and Lane Taylor and a few others, but we're gamblers. Clearly, Vikings had other ideas. Lamp has enormous upside, but he's been hurt almost every season he's been a pro. Taylor not much different. Cole's draft profile calls him: "Beyond durable...incredible durability dating all the way back to his high school days."
I like that he's just 24. Younger than Garrett Bradbury. So he's still developing. Vikings don't draft OL particularly well, so instead of drafting the next Willie Beavers, they go get a very young middle round guard and pay a 6th for him. If he plays well, Cole can be a long-term answer. Might they be thinking the same at LT?
I like that his PFF pass blocking grades his two starts at guard would rank higher than any of our interior linemen graded last year. And both against pretty good DLs in Tampa and San Francisco.
when you put it that way...But then on the flip side, I hear we brought him in just to bolster Tomlinson's ego in practice.
Win win.
Interesting takes. When I saw this on twitter, most of the armchair reactions were pretty negative.
@Vikergirl shared the hypnotic posts/responses earlier. Well, they've done some editing in the replies to this trade announcement.
@"Nichelle" said: Interesting takes. When I saw this on twitter, most of the armchair reactions were pretty negative.@Vikergirl shared the hypnotic posts/responses earlier. Well, they've done some editing in the replies to this trade announcement.
I'm betting purple twitter would've been stoked by a Forrest Lamp signing...
@"MaroonBells" said: So he's still developing.
That should stop once Rick Dennison gets ahold of him.
@"comet52" said:@"MaroonBells" said: So he's still developing.
That should stop once Rick Dennison gets ahold of him.
Oh you read my mind...
@"Nichelle" said: Interesting takes. When I saw this on twitter, most of the armchair reactions were pretty negative.@Vikergirl shared the hypnotic posts/responses earlier. Well, they've done some editing in the replies to this trade announcement.
That's a good point. It's important to be specific.
This trade smells of Jeremiah Sirles but it does sound like Cole has some potential. Happy to bring him in for the price, but penciling him in as a starter is another story. Kyler was running for his life last season, after all.
If he can be average, we can be happy. Welcome aboard, Cole!
So one of the things about Ezra Cleveland playing guard last year was that he frequently overstepped his sets. He was used to playing left tackle and reacting to an edge rusher trying to get around him. If he stays at guard, he'll have to correct that. But one thing he did very well was pull, especially on screens.
If Cleveland stays at guard, it will be because they love how he can get in front of screens. Pretty sure the Vikings pull guards more than tackles. That might also explain the Cole trade...
This was the clip I was looking for. One play from college, but this would fit the #Vikings blocking scheme just fine. Viable candidate at left guard. https://t.co/pkK7F6pQIg
— nfldraftnik (@KevinBrownNFL) March 26, 2021
@"Nichelle" said: https://twitter.com/PurpleForTheWin/status/1375163299726245891?s=20Looks top notch, or top shelf. Hoping he is nothing more than a Brett Jones replacement.
@"Nichelle" said: https://twitter.com/PurpleForTheWin/status/1375163299726245891?s=20DT eventually gets the sack, but you can't fault Cole for that. He held up well.
@"pattersaur" said: This trade smells of Jeremiah Sirles but it does sound like Cole has some potential. Happy to bring him in for the price, but penciling him in as a starter is another story. Kyler was running for his life last season, after all.If he can be average, we can be happy. Welcome aboard, Cole!
I would have loved to have had Sirles this past year in place of Dozier at LG.
@"Nichelle" said: Another one of Cole v Tomlinson...https://twitter.com/LukeBraunNFL/status/1375198475164413955?s=20
Didn't seem so much a hands issue. Kept his hands working the whole time. It was the fact that he ended up doing a 5 step drop as the Center.
@"greediron" said:@"Nichelle" said: Another one of Cole v Tomlinson...https://twitter.com/LukeBraunNFL/status/1375198475164413955?s=20
Didn't seem so much a hands issue. Kept his hands working the whole time. It was the fact that he ended up doing a 5 step drop as the Center.
I was going to say, he was engaged to give 5 seconds in the pocket. Statistically is that considered, a pressure/hurry?
@"greediron" said:@"Nichelle" said: Another one of Cole v Tomlinson...https://twitter.com/LukeBraunNFL/status/1375198475164413955?s=20
Didn't seem so much a hands issue. Kept his hands working the whole time. It was the fact that he ended up doing a 5 step drop as the Center.
this is more of a credit to Tomlinson, everytime Cole tried to set anchor Tomlinson adjusted his rush to make Cole reset his feet and stayed with him as opposed to what we have seen which is an anchor and a whiff as the DT blows by and our OL stumble as they reach for tail feathers.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"greediron" said:@"Nichelle" said: Another one of Cole v Tomlinson...https://twitter.com/LukeBraunNFL/status/1375198475164413955?s=20
Didn't seem so much a hands issue. Kept his hands working the whole time. It was the fact that he ended up doing a 5 step drop as the Center.
this is more of a credit to Tomlinson, everytime Cole tried to set anchor Tomlinson adjusted his rush to make Cole reset his feet and stayed with him as opposed to what we have seen which is an anchor and a whiff as the DT blows by and our OL stumble as they reach for tail feathers.
Yeah, Tomlinson bulled him back and ruined the pocket. My comment was why complain about the hands when it was the lack of anchor that was the issue IMO.
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