Peterson Signing - Boom or Bust
So, I don’t think a one year contract has much bust to it at all. But, I guess we need headlines...
Boom! B) Although Patrick may one day get that bust...!
good signing we need veteran leadershop to teach these very good prospects how to play. Patrick will not whine on the sidelines and fake an injury when he gets beat. He will be a stabilizing force for these talented corners we have now.
Well we shed Rudy's ridiculous overpay and made Barr's more palatable, but then Rick just felt a void of sorts. After Peterson's agent said they'd take 5 mil, Ricky said, "No let's make it 10."
"That’s not big money for a cornerback per se, but it doesn’t do much for a Minnesota secondary that could lose safety Anthony Harris in free agency and has two 2020 rookies — Cameron Dantzler and Jeff Gladney — who struggled through most of their inaugural seasons."
Here and I thought they played pretty well for rookies hung out to dry by zero pass rush.
No one expects shut-down Patrick Peterson from three years ago, but like Rhodes last year and Newman a few years ago, I expect him to have a rebound season with new surroundings, and in a secondary where he may no longer be handed the toughest assignment. I keep thinking of Richard Sherman, who everyone thought was cooked. He shows up in San Fransisco and has another All Pro year.
At the very least, Peterson's a starting outside cornerback (or safety?) on a team that drafted two pretty good looking corners last year in Dantzler and Gladney and looks to draft another this year. His experience and leadership will be big for the secondary...and Zimmer...who couldn't do what he wanted to last year. All at zero cost to future caps.
Last piece for the defense is another edge rusher. Will this be a Dunlap vet signing or will they move down in the first and get greatee value by taking DE?
i am also curious:
if Hughes shows up healthy and ready, can he man the outside while PP plays safety.
If Hughes is done, then PP goes outside
This team is in need for a rebuild so bad that I hate it. We have been trying to put chrome on a moped and call it a harely for so long.
This team needs a good solid breakdown and rebuild in the worst way. I am tired of retooling.
Not sure I love the signing at the price. Seems like he is at the same stage as Rhodes was when he left here, very much in decline. Paid $10 mil for the name and not the production. I hope Peterson still has some game in him.
@"Mike Olson" said: This team is in need for a rebuild so bad that I hate it. We have been trying to put chrome on a moped and call it a harely for so long.This team needs a good solid breakdown and rebuild in the worst way. I am tired of retooling.
I badly wanted a rebuild last offseason and today I feel even stronger it was the right call for last year. It might still be the right call for this offseason, but I'm less convinced it makes sense this year.
I still want a different direction at QB because I'm fairly convinced you either need a top 5 guy, or a cheap guy (rookie deal). But I also know the Vikings have a lot of talent. They have a lot of fans who are excited to come back and watch games, myself included. But there's also many long time season ticket holders who maybe realized last year-- hey, watching from home isn't so bad. Getting a lot of those people back into the stadium is going to be hard.
From a business sense I can see why they're trying to cobble together a contender. Even if that contender is only for the playoffs this season and not for the Super Bowl, as we'd all like.
I also am very happy with the Pat Peterson deal. It's not "high risk, high reward". To me it's medium risk, high reward.
@"PSBLAKE" said: good signing we need veteran leadershop to teach these very good prospects how to play. Patrick will not whine on the sidelines and fake an injury when he gets beat. He will be a stabilizing force for these talented corners we have now.Is Peterson known as a mentor? I really don't know. But I think we assume older guys are, and with those like Peterson who entered the NFL with tremendous physical advantages, they didn't really need to go through the same things as someone who has to perfect his craft to survive. Would his perspective match that of someone like Kris Boyd? "Kris, just go back out there and run faster than everyone else on the field, jump higher than those WRs, outmuscle that RB, that's how I did it when I was coming up." Not many HOF players become great coaches.
@"Mike Olson" said: This team is in need for a rebuild so bad that I hate it. We have been trying to put chrome on a moped and call it a harely for so long.This team needs a good solid breakdown and rebuild in the worst way. I am tired of retooling.
The team won't go into a full blown rebuild mode with Kirk Cousins and his contract here in Minnesota. Won't happen. They will reload and hope to catch lightning in a bottle.
@"StickyBun" said:@"Mike Olson" said: This team is in need for a rebuild so bad that I hate it. We have been trying to put chrome on a moped and call it a harely for so long.This team needs a good solid breakdown and rebuild in the worst way. I am tired of retooling.
The team won't go into a full blown rebuild mode with Kirk Cousins and his contract here in Minnesota. Won't happen. They will reload and hope to catch lightning in a bottle.
Correct.
@"eckman" said: Not sure I love the signing at the price. Seems like he is at the same stage as Rhodes was when he left here, very much in decline. Paid $10 mil for the name and not the production. I hope Peterson still has some game in him.
But Rhodes revived once he got out of here and to Indianapolis. Make of that whatever you wish.
@"StickyBun" said:@"Mike Olson" said: This team is in need for a rebuild so bad that I hate it. We have been trying to put chrome on a moped and call it a harely for so long.This team needs a good solid breakdown and rebuild in the worst way. I am tired of retooling.
The team won't go into a full blown rebuild mode with Kirk Cousins and his contract here in Minnesota. Won't happen. They will reload and hope to catch lightning in a bottle.
which is why many fans are ready to be done with Cousins, Zim and are growing weary of Spielman. There are a lot that think the "reload" vs a true "rebuild' has been tried for so long that it just isnt going to get it done. Some of us put more value on a true superbowl run than on simply being happy with the current playoffs every year with no real feeling of being a lombardi contender. sure lightning in a bottle is a thing, but we are Vikings fans, that bottle has been broke over our heads to many times to think its ever going to be a good thing for us.
Signing Peterson definitely creates more optimism for me. We have a good QB who has a ton of weapons. We now have a revived defense that will be tough up the middle and can perhaps have a rookie that can also contribute defensively (DE or Safety?). Currently, the top teams in the NFC will be two teams with old QBs (Tom and Aaron) and then a division that will likely beat themselves up (NFC West). I think if we can get in we will have as good of a chance as everyone else so long as the OL is addressed in the draft and can be average.
@"Hawkvike25" said: Signing Peterson definitely creates more optimism for me. We have a good QB who has a ton of weapons. We now have a revived defense that will be tough up the middle and can perhaps have a rookie that can also contribute defensively (DE or Safety?). Currently, the top teams in the NFC will be two teams with old QBs (Tom and Aaron) and then a division that will likely beat themselves up (NFC West). I think if we can get in we will have as good of a chance as everyone else so long as the OL is addressed in the draft and can be average.
I agree, I like the moves the Vikings have made so far.
The bold part of what you said is so key. 3 years of Kirk and every offseason is, "man if we could just get him an offensive line...". If we're saying the same exact thing again next year I might really lose my mind.
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