This One Just Won't Die

if this has any legs at all as far as coming from Hunters camp,  that would be setting off huge red flags for me in terms of how healthy he is going to be coming back.  They have to know how stupid it sounds for a player who just missed a complete season due to injury who is also under contract for several more years to be making contract noise.

This one is annoying. He is coming back from an injury. I don't know how much leverage that gives him. I just want resolution one way or the other. Maybe the fatigue factor is what he or his agent is counting on. Who knows? We'll see what happens. 

What tells me is if he is making some noise about his current contract, hopefully he feels he's ready to come back and play at that high level, deserving a new contract.

He is getting bad advice. Period

he was fucking paid to stay at home and now he wants more or out?  Play hardball with him, he can sit out another year if he wants.  

Selfish 

@"Skodin" said: He is getting bad advice. Period

he was fucking paid to stay at home and now he wants more or out?  Play hardball with him, he can sit out another year if he wants.  

Selfish 

Look, he suffered a potentially career ending injury, I sure all during the season as he sat out he had people in his ear about his contract.  Does not surprise me that he is looking for more financial security.  I am sure his agent is feeling the pressure also because of the under-market contract.  I am guessing some incentives will be built into his contract to make him happy -- such as contract escalation for # of sacks, pro bowl, all pro, etc.

I also don't doubt there was pressure for him to play last year and they have to remedy that through conversations.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Skodin" said: He is getting bad advice. Period

he was fucking paid to stay at home and now he wants more or out?  Play hardball with him, he can sit out another year if he wants.  

Selfish 

I would agree, but Guru says there is more to the story, but he cant share it at this time,  that does paint Hunter in a  more sympathetic light in this matter.

Was that Sullivan that they wanted to play through a back injury?  He would have, but wanted some guarantee on the contract and they wouldn't.  So he went on IR.

@"greediron" said: Was that Sullivan that they wanted to play through a back injury?  He would have, but wanted some guarantee on the contract and they wouldn't.  So he went on IR.

stop the madness, play and get paid or sit and pound shit. I wonder what his cap exception would be of he sat?  Maybe that is why we are looking DE as our top priority. 

Only thing i could see remotely justified is that the team Dr’s wrongly told him he could play and Z and Rick pushed him to play. Im assuming the 2nd opinion was actually a 3rd opinion 

The Bears also received a 2nd and a 5th from Oakland, but I agree - 2 firsts and a day 2 pick would be the least I would accept. Would obviously prefer dipping into the Dolphins, Jets or Jags cache of picks.

@"BarrNone55" said:

Darren Wolfson

@DWolfsonKSTP

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Perfect world, he gets paid here. He likes it here, playing for Zim and Andre. But yeah, he's highly thought of across the league, if they don't want to pay up.

He likes playing for Dre? Go figure. 

One more thing, this is not about the Vikings "wanting to pay up." They've never had any trouble keeping (read: paying) the players they draft. What's more, extending Hunter would actually help them in terms of the cap. I don't care if they make him the highest paid defensive player in the NFL, the first year of an extension will be a cap savings from the $17M hit he has now. So it's not about "want to." 

The issue is that the Vikings probably can't do anything until they know more about the injury. Hunter's camp has to know that. There might also be some intrigue as trade offers come in. Everyone has his price...and for Hunter it would be damn high. I tend to think we're not going to have a resolution to this until training camp.  

Maybe the team was pissed that he had the surgery but he had to do what was best for him long-term.

Package him with Kirk for DeShaun Watson, I'll celebrate.

@"BarrNone55" said:

Spencer Thompson

@ThompsonNFL

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Mack in the 4 yrs before getting traded Age: 26 Sacks: 40.5 TFLs: 68 Tackles: 304 Snaps: 3873

 Hunter's last 4 years
Age: 26
Sacks: 48.5
TFLs: 59
Tackles: 243
Snaps: 3130

*hunter played less, and mainly on later downs (explains tackles/TFL numbers)

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Spencer Thompson

@ThompsonNFL

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Danielle Hunter would get a Khalil Mack type return... 2 firsts, 1 third, and 1 day three pick.

Would I take those picks? Yes. Do I want to lose a top 5 player that’s only 26 when we can be competitive? No.

Two 1s, a 3rd, and a Day 3?

Yeah, I'd do that for an apparently disgruntled guy coming off neck surgery. Sign me up.

I just really hope the Vikings can work it out with Hunter. Kobe wanted to be traded from the Lakers at one point. They worked it out and it’s all a footnote on his career. I’d love to see Hunter go into the HOF as a Viking someday.

EDIT- Of our last 15 first round picks, 4 are guys you’d consider trading Hunter for: AD, Harry, Rhodes, JJ. So that’s about 25%. 75% of the time you’re getting guys who even at a 2-for-1, you’re taking a bath. 

The Raiders traded Mack away for a good RB and a bad CB. I don’t want that to be us.

@"JimmyinSD" said: if this has any legs at all as far as coming from Hunters camp,  that would be setting off huge red flags for me in terms of how healthy he is going to be coming back.  They have to know how stupid it sounds for a player who just missed a complete season due to injury who is also under contract for several more years to be making contract noise.

@"greediron" said: Was that Sullivan that they wanted to play through a back injury?  He would have, but wanted some guarantee on the contract and they wouldn't.  So he went on IR.