Reiff Released
O-line guru Mike Tice on if #Vikings move Brian O’Neill from right to left tackle: “If they move O’Neill over to left, you’re starting two new tackles (1 at different spot) & that scares me’’ Tice said O’Neill would command more money in a possible extension if he becomes the LT.
— Chris Tomasson (@christomasson) March 10, 2021
O-line guru Mike Tice said last year didn’t consider Riley Reiff a true left tackle & hasn’t changed tune “He plays winning football until he gets into the area of the contest when they have to throw the football & then he doesn’t shine. He’d be a better player on the right side"
— Chris Tomasson (@christomasson) March 10, 2021
@"MaroonBells" said:@"supafreak84" said: Hate this move. I understand the money aspect but you find a way to keep your starting LT who had an excellent year. You are essentially now having to use a high draft pick to fill that spot and making a lateral move instead of improving the roster in another area. Nobody knows if Cleveland can fill that spot and even if he does it leaves you with a huge holes at BOTH guard positions. I'm fine with it. In my mock offseason, I went back and forth on whether it was best to keep him or cut him. We won't know the answer to that until we see how we replace him, and how we spend his $11.75 million in cap space.But it's funny to me how a team takes a LT in the 2nd round of the draft--a LT most thought would go in the 1st round--but now with a year of experience, coaching and weight room, he's worthless.
I still like Cleveland a lot. But replace Rieff with Cleveland and now you gotta fill his hole. Plus there’s the matter of Dozier’s vacant spot. So whether it’s through FA or the Draft, OL just became a much more pressing need. Darrisaw come on down?
@"pattersaur" said:.
I still like Cleveland a lot. But replace Rieff with Cleveland and now you gotta fill his hole.
Well, to each their own I guess...
@"pattersaur" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"supafreak84" said: Hate this move. I understand the money aspect but you find a way to keep your starting LT who had an excellent year. You are essentially now having to use a high draft pick to fill that spot and making a lateral move instead of improving the roster in another area. Nobody knows if Cleveland can fill that spot and even if he does it leaves you with a huge holes at BOTH guard positions. I'm fine with it. In my mock offseason, I went back and forth on whether it was best to keep him or cut him. We won't know the answer to that until we see how we replace him, and how we spend his $11.75 million in cap space.But it's funny to me how a team takes a LT in the 2nd round of the draft--a LT most thought would go in the 1st round--but now with a year of experience, coaching and weight room, he's worthless.
I still like Cleveland a lot. But replace Rieff with Cleveland and now you gotta fill his hole. Plus there’s the matter of Dozier’s vacant spot. So whether it’s through FA or the Draft, OL just became a much more pressing need. Darrisaw come on down?
Well guards are a lot easier to find. And cheaper. Plenty of money now to sign one. Sign a guy like Lane Taylor for $2M to play on the right and then draft one of those guard/tackle types (Slater, AVT) and the line could be pretty good. Or draft Darrisaw and keep Cleveland at guard. Just no more Dakota Doziers.
The move sure takes away optionality. Rieff was an average LT, but he was being paid like an average LT. Normally I'd say that guard is a fairly easy position to fill, but the Vikings of late have sure shown that is not the case for them.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"supafreak84" said: Hate this move. I understand the money aspect but you find a way to keep your starting LT who had an excellent year. You are essentially now having to use a high draft pick to fill that spot and making a lateral move instead of improving the roster in another area. Nobody knows if Cleveland can fill that spot and even if he does it leaves you with a huge holes at BOTH guard positions. I'm fine with it. In my mock offseason, I went back and forth on whether it was best to keep him or cut him. We won't know the answer to that until we see how we replace him, and how we spend his $11.75 million in cap space.But it's funny to me how a team takes a LT in the 2nd round of the draft--a LT most thought would go in the 1st round--but now with a year of experience, coaching and weight room, he's worthless.
Well that's the hope is that he can fill the LT position, but you never really know until he's played there. Reiff was a known commodity at the position and now you lose him, shift Cleveland from his guard position where he played very well. I was hoping for some continuity at the positions we were solid at, but now we have a bunch of moving parts and trying to rebuild this constant problem once again. I hate this move
I would hope that if they put Cleveland at LT that they would resign Rashod Hill as a decent, cheap insurance.
Write this down: Kyle Hinton will be a starting guard this year -- and he will be good. That is my offseason, out-of-left-field prediction.
@"PurpleCrush" said: https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/1369785188717314048
Wasn't that tried and proven wrong? Reiff was a decent LT for Detroit, they moved him to the right side when they got another LT and Reiff didn't look so hot, he came to minny and played the left spot better than any have in 20 years (including guys coached by tice), where does Tice think he would somehow be better on the right?
amazing no one has mentioned that this move opens up the door for a Orlando Brown trade
Brown and the Ravens 1st for 14 and our best 3rd
Still grab a DE in the first, still have capital to get Atkins
The guards were a problem last yr. The revisionist history buffs who make it out that Cleveland was our answer at that position is pretty funny. Cleveland should be better at T where he won't get bum rushed by a 320 lb. DT. We need help at both guard positions, but can find them in FA or 3rd rd. We're still in need of DT help. Hope we can trade back in the 1st, get our guy.
@"supafreak84" said: Hate this move. I understand the money aspect but you find a way to keep your starting LT who had an excellent year. You are essentially now having to use a high draft pick to fill that spot and making a lateral move instead of improving the roster in another area. Nobody knows if Cleveland can fill that spot and even if he does it leaves you with a huge holes at BOTH guard positions.I’m not sold that this is the right move, but we do get his money. This gives us a shot at FAs and if Clevland is good enough to step in then so be it.
this group has been so good at identifying and developing stud offensive lineman that they can afford to lose one of their top two players. Plug and play!!!
@"VikingOracle" said: Write this down: Kyle Hinton will be a starting guard this year -- and he will be good. That is my offseason, out-of-left-field prediction.Well you are the oracle. You know how huge it would be to hit on a 7th round OL prospect?
Since nobody has any money, and those that do will get all the splash players first...
Isnt it easy to assume that Rieff will be in that 2nd tier and might go cheap on a 1 yr deal? No one else has money to sign “average” OL guys either.
At some point, the Vikings had to clear out some big contracts and let younger players take over. Irv Smith is taking over for Rudolph and they have two players in Cleveland and O'Neill who could take over for Reiff. There is also a decent chance that a good LT prospect is available within striking distance of 14 and they could even opt to bring back Hill and give him a chance at LT. So I think that the Vikings are positioned as well as they could hope to be to replace Reiff. The big thing now is that they need to use the freed up cap space to address other areas of need like DT and/or interior line to give them more flexibility in the draft.
That's not to say that replacing Reiff will be easy, since he played at a high level, especially last season, but I like that they have multiple options to replace him.
@"MaroonBells" said:Keeping Reiff was their plan. He wasn't going to extend his deal after all the half-decent OTs got the tag. Changed the market entirely.@"comet52" said: Amazed they actually made a smart move for a change. I don't know how "smart" it is to take the best offensive lineman off a team with offensive line problems. But the Vikings obviously feel good about their other options there and want some money to improve the defense.
why do I have the feeling we are clearing money for a “splash” trade?
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