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Not sexy but a couple of nice choices.  
Tucker would fill an immediate gap at LG, road grader with adequate pass blocking skills
Moehrig can take over for Harris game 1
Wilson has potential, could use a great set of D coaches to take him there

If we address DT in FA (Atkins), DE (Lawson), the trenches would have seen a significant upgrade from 20 to 21.  That could be the difference between 9,10 wins vs 12 and a top playoff spot

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Love Tucker's flexibility.

Wilson could make the draft. FSU took a bunch of really impressive athletes and did a shit job of getting anything out of them.

I've got very limited interest in Little.

Ill take Franks 10 out of 10 times for my developmental guy.

Brown would be a great add.

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I don't see Vera Tucker being a great fit for our offensive line scheme.  I like Rashawn Slater's feet, arm length and athleticism more as a tackle prospect who could kick inside to guard (ala Cleveland) and to me holds more value.  Ditto with Darrisaw. 

Moehring likely wont get out of the first round and I'd be surprised to see Marvin Wilson drop that far

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@"supafreak84" said: I don't see Vera Tucker being a great fit for our offensive line scheme.  I like Rashawn Slater's feet, arm length and athleticism more as a tackle prospect who could kick inside to guard (ala Cleveland) and to me holds more value.  Ditto with Darrisaw. 

Moehring likely wont get out of the first round and I'd be surprised to see Marvin Wilson drop that far


Are you possibly thinking of someone else? He's a great fit for our scheme.

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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"supafreak84" said: I don't see Vera Tucker being a great fit for our offensive line scheme.  I like Rashawn Slater's feet, arm length and athleticism more as a tackle prospect who could kick inside to guard (ala Cleveland) and to me holds more value.  Ditto with Darrisaw. 

Moehring likely wont get out of the first round and I'd be surprised to see Marvin Wilson drop that far


Are you possibly thinking of someone else? He's a great fit for our scheme.

I don't see it. We want athletes that can pull and get to that second level in our zone scheme.  Look at the guys we've drafted O'Neill, Cleveland, Bradberry...all great athletes. Tucker isn't the same kind of athlete and I think his lack of length diminishes his overall value as a versatile swing lineman.  Sign me up for Slater and Darrisaw, not so much on Tucker

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Little is also starting to get some end of the First Round steam. No way he lasts until the 4th. 

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@"TBro" said: Little is also starting to get some end of the First Round steam. No way he lasts until the 4th. 
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PROSPECT SUMMARYAlijah Vera-Tucker has aligned predominantly at left tackle this season for the Trojans offense. He has exceptional athleticism, as evidenced by his balance and body control in his pass set. He is an easy mover who demonstrates his athleticism in the passing game, particularly in his kick slide. He plays with very good competitiveness when he is bull rushed. In the run game, he comes off the ball hard to strike and he excels by getting his body in favorable positions. He’s played this year at left tackle, affording him much more value due to his ability to play that position in a pinch at the next level. 
Ideal Role: He is a starting left guard in the NFL.
Scheme Fit: A zone blocking scheme would suit this player’s skill set. However, he is athletic enough to adapt to any scheme.
FILM EVALUATIONSGames Watched: Stanford (2019), Fresno (2019), Washington (2019), Oregon (2020)
Best Game Studied: Fresno (2019)
Worst Game Studied: Oregon (2020)
Competitive Toughness: He demonstrates his outstanding competitive toughness in a number of ways. When he's physically overmatched on the edge, he uses his athleticism, toughness, and agility to win. He also comes off the ball hard to strike in the run game and competes hard late in games. 
Balance: He plays with good balance in his kick slide. He does a good job keeping his feet under him when climbing to the second level. He also demonstrates good body control to get his body in winning positions and is rarely on the ground.
Anchor Ability: He plays with good level anchor. He has the flexibility, strength, and physical toughness to handle the bull rush while maintaining the depth of the pocket. On the edge at tackle, he handles bull rushers equally as effective.
Lateral Mobility: His lateral mobility is excellent. He is an easy mover who gets into his kick slide and effortlessly redirects laterally on a defender's counter. He does a good job getting on moving defenders at the second level, as well.
Power at P.O.A.: His power at the point of attack is good overall. He comes off the ball hard to strike and plays with a nasty demeanor on the interior. However, he does have good functional strength paired with his outstanding athleticism which makes him consistently win his reps. 
Hand Technique: He has instances of “clamping” and getting the hands outside of the frame. He will have to become more sound in this regard, learning to consistently keep the hands inside the frame.  He has very good hand quickness to replace when a defender has knocked them down.
Football IQ: He has a very good football IQ. He does an outstanding job identifying slants and stunts. He plays with good vision and can identify blitzers coming off the edge.
Versatility: This player aligned at left tackle in 2020, showing his true versatility. While his ideal position is still at guard, he has demonstrated the ability to play tackle in a pinch. This will only be looked upon favorably at draft time due to the positional value he brings to the team. 
Pass Set: He is athletic, smooth, and fluid in his pass set. He easily redirects laterally on a defender's counter move. He has not looked overmatched in the games I've graded that he has played tackle.
Flexibility: He has aligned this year at left tackle. However, he is not ideally suited to play this position due to the lack of length. However, his ability to play tackle in a pinch will only help his cause in the eyes of NFL teams this spring.
Prospect Comparison: Terron Armstead (2013 NFL Draft, New Orleans Saints)
SCOUT GRADESTDN Consensus: 86.38/100
Joe Marino: 87.00/100
Kyle Crabbs: 84.00/100

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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"supafreak84" said: I don't see Vera Tucker being a great fit for our offensive line scheme.  I like Rashawn Slater's feet, arm length and athleticism more as a tackle prospect who could kick inside to guard (ala Cleveland) and to me holds more value.  Ditto with Darrisaw. 

Moehring likely wont get out of the first round and I'd be surprised to see Marvin Wilson drop that far


Are you possibly thinking of someone else? He's a great fit for our scheme.


I'm kind of scratching my head about Tucker being a poor fit. I can see the case regarding Wyatt Davis, who was probably a more dominant/powerful college lineman but not necessarily as mobile. 

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@"TBro" said: Little is also starting to get some end of the First Round steam. No way he lasts until the 4th. 
I think this mock contains a LOT of optimism about players sliding: Moehrig, Wilson, Little are all getting mocked at least a round higher than he project them. ONE player on our wish list might slide, not 3 or more. And he doesn't seem to know if he's drafting Tre Brown or Tre Norwood...
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@"Jor-El" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@"supafreak84" said: I don't see Vera Tucker being a great fit for our offensive line scheme.  I like Rashawn Slater's feet, arm length and athleticism more as a tackle prospect who could kick inside to guard (ala Cleveland) and to me holds more value.  Ditto with Darrisaw. 

Moehring likely wont get out of the first round and I'd be surprised to see Marvin Wilson drop that far


Are you possibly thinking of someone else? He's a great fit for our scheme.


I'm kind of scratching my head about Tucker being a poor fit. I can see the case regarding Wyatt Davis, who was probably a more dominant/powerful college lineman but not necessarily as mobile. 

Well that's one of the problems in not having the combine this year and being able to see him match up against other lineman.  I watched his tape against Utah and Oregon this year as a left tackle.  There were some plays he was on the ground, got called for a hold, and gave up a pressure on an INT.  I don't know that he is necessarily long enough to play LT at the next level and be a Pro Bowl type player, and to me, unless it's Quentin Nelson...I don't know that I'd take a guard with a top 15 pick. 

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I can't speak for anyone else, but he's a LG all day and a swing/emergency LT.

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@"BarrNone55" said: I can't speak for anyone else, but he's a LG all day and a swing/emergency LT.
I like AVT quite a bit too and would be very pleased with him in the first round...especially after trading down a little.
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@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: I can't speak for anyone else, but he's a LG all day and a swing/emergency LT.
I like AVT quite a bit too and would be very pleased with him in the first round...especially after trading down a little.

Its kind of moot because I can almost guarantee that the pick will be defense. No way Zimmer is going to allow anything else after giving up almost 400 yards a game.  The only teams that allowed more points a game on average were Detroit, Jacksonville, and Oakland.  We were beyond horrendous while still pacing 4th in the league in total offense.  The only way I can see this pick not being defense is if an elite offensive skill player that has no business being on the board at 14 somehow fell into our laps, like a Kyle Pitts, Trey Lance or Devonte Smith.  I just have a very, very hard time seeing us use the pick on an offensive lineman when there is depth there through the 3rd and 4th rounds

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@"supafreak84" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: I can't speak for anyone else, but he's a LG all day and a swing/emergency LT.
I like AVT quite a bit too and would be very pleased with him in the first round...especially after trading down a little.

Its kind of moot because I can almost guarantee that the pick will be defense. No way Zimmer is going to allow anything else after giving up almost 400 yards a game.  The only teams that allowed more points a game on average were Detroit, Jacksonville, and Oakland.  We were beyond horrendous while still pacing 4th in the league in total offense.  The only way I can see this pick not being defense is if an elite offensive skill player that has no business being on the board at 14 somehow fell into our laps, like a Kyle Pitts, Trey Lance or Devonte Smith.  I just have a very, very hard time seeing us use the pick on an offensive lineman when there is depth there through the 3rd and 4th rounds




@"supafreak84" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:
I can't speak for anyone else, but he's a LG all day and a swing/emergency LT.

I like AVT quite a bit too and would be very pleased with him in the first round...especially after trading down a little.

Its kind of moot because I can almost guarantee that the pick will be defense. No way Zimmer is going to allow anything else after giving up almost 400 yards a game.  The only teams that allowed more points a game on average were Detroit, Jacksonville, and Oakland.  We were beyond horrendous while still pacing 4th in the league in total offense.  The only way I can see this pick not being defense is if an elite offensive skill player that has no business being on the board at 14 somehow fell into our laps, like a Kyle Pitts, Trey Lance or Devonte Smith.  I just have a very, very hard time seeing us use the pick on an offensive lineman when there is depth there through the 3rd and 4th rounds



Totally get where you're coming from, however I dont really think I am over the moon on any DT or DE in the first round. The more and more I watch and read things I just cant find myself saying "Yep, thats the guy we need on our defense" when AVT has been labeled one of the safest picks in the draft. We certainly may go defense first round, but I would be happier if AVT was the pick

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@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: I can't speak for anyone else, but he's a LG all day and a swing/emergency LT.
I like AVT quite a bit too and would be very pleased with him in the first round...especially after trading down a little.

Its kind of moot because I can almost guarantee that the pick will be defense. No way Zimmer is going to allow anything else after giving up almost 400 yards a game.  The only teams that allowed more points a game on average were Detroit, Jacksonville, and Oakland.  We were beyond horrendous while still pacing 4th in the league in total offense.  The only way I can see this pick not being defense is if an elite offensive skill player that has no business being on the board at 14 somehow fell into our laps, like a Kyle Pitts, Trey Lance or Devonte Smith.  I just have a very, very hard time seeing us use the pick on an offensive lineman when there is depth there through the 3rd and 4th rounds




@"supafreak84" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:
I can't speak for anyone else, but he's a LG all day and a swing/emergency LT.

I like AVT quite a bit too and would be very pleased with him in the first round...especially after trading down a little.

Its kind of moot because I can almost guarantee that the pick will be defense. No way Zimmer is going to allow anything else after giving up almost 400 yards a game.  The only teams that allowed more points a game on average were Detroit, Jacksonville, and Oakland.  We were beyond horrendous while still pacing 4th in the league in total offense.  The only way I can see this pick not being defense is if an elite offensive skill player that has no business being on the board at 14 somehow fell into our laps, like a Kyle Pitts, Trey Lance or Devonte Smith.  I just have a very, very hard time seeing us use the pick on an offensive lineman when there is depth there through the 3rd and 4th rounds



Totally get where you're coming from, however I dont really think I am over the moon on any DT or DE in the first round. The more and more I watch and read things I just cant find myself saying "Yep, thats the guy we need on our defense" when AVT has been labeled one of the safest picks in the draft. We certainly may go defense first round, but I would be happier if AVT was the pick

Just my opinion but I think the Vikings are going to find a way to keep Riley Reiff on an extension. It's just too important of a year to go backwards at that position or be forced into using a high draft pick to fill his spot with so many other roster needs. If that's the case it leaves the left guard position open for the upcoming season with the other four positions being stable with returning starters. Do you use a top 15 pick to fill that spot? I'm not so sure that's the smart play with our pass rush and defensive line being such a huge need. I do get what your saying though because all the highly regarded d-lineman this year come with some risk for one reason or another, but I still don't think it's going to dissuade the Vikings from rolling the dice on one of these guys whether that's Barmore, Phillips, Rousseau, or maybe even Paye

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It's weird how the Vikings have had great success drafting DEs in the 3rd and 4th round, but whenever they take a DT in the mid rounds, they are always mediocre to bad. I doubt that we can afford Leonard Williams, but they need a DT who can generate quick interior pressure to pair with Pierce. I'd be OK taking a DE too if there right DT is not there, but the DL needs to improve to take pressure off of a young secondary. LB could be a decent sized need. There's no way they can afford to keep Wilson and it really comes down to what the coaches think of Troy Dye.

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