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https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2021-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-2-0

Of interest Jalen Waddle moving up to #6 overall and his second ranked WR. 

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Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 

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#2 · Feb 24, 11:56 AM
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I'm not a fashion guy by any means but for one's football draft picture.....should you be in suit and tie or football jersey?  It would be interesting if there was some long term study on attire and what it says about football skills or lack there of?

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@"BarrNone55" said: Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 

I'm with you on Sewell. No way he gets past Cincy at #5

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@"supafreak84" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 

I'm with you on Sewell. No way he gets past Cincy at #5



Absolutely, my stone cold, 100% guaranteed lock. NFW.

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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 

I'm with you on Sewell. No way he gets past Cincy at #5



Absolutely, my stone cold, 100% guaranteed lock. NFW.


Curious if DJ will change his mind on this one as we get closer. I've been trying to watch a lot of both to see why he's ranking Slater higher and while I LOVE Slater, to me it's like ranking Carmelo Anthony over LeBron James. Yeah, fantastic player, but one of them looks generational. Hell, he even LOOKS like Anthony Munoz. I've heard some say that DJ is overrating Slater's performance against Chase Young. Even if he's not, Slater might move inside. Sewell is a day one left tackle. There's a big difference in value just in that. 

If the draft falls like this, it's a big argument for trading down and then back up. Paye, Phillips and Darrisaw all 5 to 12 slots down from 14. And Barmore and Nixon in the middle 2nd round. 

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Just looking at how this thing could play out before the Vikings pick, this would be my best guess right now:

1. Jags- Trevor Lawrence
2. Jets- Zach Wilson
3. Dolphins- Jamar Chase
4. Falcons- Justin Fields
5. Bengals- Penei Sewell
6. Eagles- Kyle Pitts
7. Lions- Devonta Smith
8. Panthers- Trey Lance
9. Broncos- Caleb Farley
10. Cowboys- Patrick Surtain
11. Giants- Jalen Waddle
12. 49ers- Micah Parsons
13. Chargers- Rashawn Slater

Although any Deshaun Watson trade throws this entire thing into flux

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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 

I'm with you on Sewell. No way he gets past Cincy at #5



Absolutely, my stone cold, 100% guaranteed lock. NFW.


Curious if DJ will change his mind on this one as we get closer. I've been trying to watch a lot of both to see why he's ranking Slater higher and while I LOVE Slater, to me it's like ranking Carmelo Anthony over LeBron James. Yeah, fantastic player, but one of them looks generational. Hell, he even LOOKS like Anthony Munoz. I've heard some say that DJ is overrating Slater's performance against Chase Young. Even if he's not, Slater might move inside. Sewell is a day one left tackle. There's a big difference in value just in that. 

If the draft falls like this, it's a big argument for trading down and then back up. Paye, Phillips and Darrisaw all 5 to 12 slots down from 14. And Barmore and Nixon in the middle 2nd round. 



Yeah, I'm just not seeing it no matter how hard I squint. Sewell is a Day1 LT, shut the door, and pencil him in for the next decade. 

Slater more than likely is not going to have the length to holdup outside, but I think he would be a helleuva LG in a zone or gap scheme.

Maybe DJ is an ex scout for a reason.

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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 

I'm with you on Sewell. No way he gets past Cincy at #5



Absolutely, my stone cold, 100% guaranteed lock. NFW.


Oh yeah, smart guy? Well the mock draft that I did says otherwise and gave me Sewell to the Vikings at #14.

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@"supafreak84" said: Just looking at how this thing could play out before the Vikings pick, this would be my best guess right now:

1. Jags- Trevor Lawrence-Lock
2. Jets- Zach Wilson-Likely, but not a lock
3. Dolphins- Jamar Chase-Help for Tua, unless they acquire Watson
4. Falcons- Justin Fields-If he makes it this far, will go no lower
5. Bengals- Penei Sewell-Lock, NFW he gets passed here.
6. Eagles- Kyle Pitts-GF is an Eagles and Gators fan. TV should be safe, but we'll watch at her place.
7. Lions- Devonta Smith-Which means he'll suck.
8. Panthers- Trey Lance-Tepper obsessed with landing a QB
9. Broncos- Caleb Farley-no strong opinion
10. Cowboys- Patrick Surtain-Ditto
11. Giants- Jalen Waddle-Gettleman likes the trenches too much
12. 49ers- Micah Parsons-Maybe Waddle here
13. Chargers- Rashawn Slater-Definitely need help

Although any Deshaun Watson trade throws this entire thing into flux

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@"BarrNone55" said: Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 


The Vikings obviously watched a lot of tape on Jeff Gladney last year... did TCU S Trevon Moehrig catch their eye a year ago?

So far I like what I see with Moehrig. Should he be in the pick 14 conversation for the Vikings?

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@"Carl Knowles" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 


The Vikings obviously watched a lot of tape on Jeff Gladney last year... did TCU S Trevon Moehrig catch their eye a year ago?

So far I like what I see with Moehrig. Should he be in the pick 14 conversation for the Vikings?



Oh, hell no! Not unless he's Joey Browner or Ronnie Lott.

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@"Carl Knowles" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 


The Vikings obviously watched a lot of tape on Jeff Gladney last year... did TCU S Trevon Moehrig catch their eye a year ago?

So far I like what I see with Moehrig. Should he be in the pick 14 conversation for the Vikings?


I like Moehrig, but not with our first round pick.  I would have a hard time ever drafting a safety in the first round unless it was a Shawn Taylor type situation. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: Lowest I've seen Surtain, highest for Moehrig by a mile. Maybe two miles. He's also got my guy higher than anyone else. Sewell over Slater is a hill I'll die on. 

I'm with you on Sewell. No way he gets past Cincy at #5



Absolutely, my stone cold, 100% guaranteed lock. NFW.


Curious if DJ will change his mind on this one as we get closer. . 


Of course he will - it's two months away. A lot of things like, "Slater moves ahead of Sewell!" are just to generate some interest. "Jeremiah releases updated rankings, all the top players in same order as last week!" isn't going to get many clicks or responses.

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Levi OnwuzurikeWashington · DT · Senior (RS)
Onwuzurike is a slightly undersized defensive tackle who was highly destructive in every Washington game I studied. The Huskies moved him around in their scheme, but I believe he's best suited as a 3-technique, on the edge of the guard. He has an explosive first step and very quick hands against the pass. He flashes a twitchy slap/swim move, but there are times when he doesn't have a plan and gets stuck. He can drive interior blockers right back to the quarterback when he comes off the ball with his pads low to the ground. Against the run, he plays much bigger than his size. He can stack single opponents with one arm and refuses to stay blocked. He has lateral range and his effort is phenomenal. Overall, Onwuzurike's pass rush production isn't special, but all of the tools are there to improve the results at the next level.
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@"minny65" said:
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Levi OnwuzurikeWashington · DT · Senior (RS)
Onwuzurike is a slightly undersized defensive tackle who was highly destructive in every Washington game I studied. The Huskies moved him around in their scheme, but I believe he's best suited as a 3-technique, on the edge of the guard. He has an explosive first step and very quick hands against the pass. He flashes a twitchy slap/swim move, but there are times when he doesn't have a plan and gets stuck. He can drive interior blockers right back to the quarterback when he comes off the ball with his pads low to the ground. Against the run, he plays much bigger than his size. He can stack single opponents with one arm and refuses to stay blocked. He has lateral range and his effort is phenomenal. Overall, Onwuzurike's pass rush production isn't special, but all of the tools are there to improve the results at the next level.

Yeah I don't get this one.  There's just no production with him and I watched Meinerz eat his lunch during Senior Bowl week. No thanks.  To me if we are going to gamble on a DT it better be Barmore, who has the most upside and the potential to be a dominant player.  I have Barmore, Nixon, and Marvin Wilson all ranked higher

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I'll be very interested to see where Trey Lance goes. He's so hard to slot with so little to go on his last year playing.

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@"StickyBun" said: I'll be very interested to see where Trey Lance goes. He's so hard to slot with so little to go on his last year playing.


No later than 8. If there's a Mahomes in this draft it's him. 

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@"StickyBun" said: I'll be very interested to see where Trey Lance goes. He's so hard to slot with so little to go on his last year playing.


No later than 8. If there's a Mahomes in this draft it's him. 


Nononononono, Wilson is Mahomes, Lance is Steve McNair.

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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"StickyBun" said: I'll be very interested to see where Trey Lance goes. He's so hard to slot with so little to go on his last year playing.


No later than 8. If there's a Mahomes in this draft it's him. 


Nononononono, Wilson is Mahomes, Lance is Steve McNair.

So we could have Mahomes or McNair?  Lol sign me up!!!

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@"AGRforever" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"StickyBun" said: I'll be very interested to see where Trey Lance goes. He's so hard to slot with so little to go on his last year playing.


No later than 8. If there's a Mahomes in this draft it's him. 


Nononononono, Wilson is Mahomes, Lance is Steve McNair.

So we could have Mahomes or McNair?  Lol sign me up!!!



Sorry, they'll both be gone by 14.  One thing that occurred to me is that the Lions are only wedded to Goff for a season before they can whack him.  Maybe they jump on a QB now and sit him behind Goff for a year.

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