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The Athletic's Jeff Howe reports the Patriots and impending free agent LG Joe Thuney have "never been close to an agreement."28-year-old Thuney played 2020 under the franchise tag. Another tag and monster cap number isn't going to happen for an interior lineman, and Howe believes the Pats' success with drafting and developing guards will tilt them toward avoiding a long-term deal. Thuney is one of the better offensive linemen in all of football, while the Pats are currently built for the run. We wouldn't say there's a zero percent chance Thuney re-signs.  
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#1 · Feb 9, 4:15 PM
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There is going to be some quality interior lineman available in free agency, just wish the Vikings had the cap space to be active at that position.  I really like both of the Chargers guards as potential fits for us.  Forrest Lamp was someone talked about a lot on this board a few years ago who had been injured but finally played the entirety of last season at left guard. Dan Feeney their right guard was a guy who's tape I loved out of Indiana. Both young, quality players with upside who fit our scheme

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I love Lamp.

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#3 · Feb 10, 6:29 AM
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Although unlikely if the Vikings force-fit a high-end player into the cap its likely going to be Thuney. His fit is just too good and they had interest in trading for him last off-season. 

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With a player like this available, I really wish we knew what we have in Udoh playing RT. 

ONeill to LT, Reiff (who played well) off the books.

ONeill-Thuney-Bradburry-Cleveland-Udoh could have serious potential and a nice blend of contract values

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@"Geoff Nichols" said: Although unlikely if the Vikings force-fit a high-end player into the cap its likely going to be Thuney. His fit is just too good and they had interest in trading for him last off-season. 

What about Scherff, know you were talking about him last offseason before the tag that he was willing to take a pay cut for either Chiefs or Vikings. You think he can be in play this year?

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@"ilovebritney" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said: Although unlikely if the Vikings force-fit a high-end player into the cap its likely going to be Thuney. His fit is just too good and they had interest in trading for him last off-season. 

What about Scherff, know you were talking about him last offseason before the tag that he was willing to take a pay cut for either Chiefs or Vikings. You think he can be in play this year?



Maybe. The issue with Scherff is his durability. Do you want to carve out the large amount of cap space needed to sign him if you know he isn't going to be on the field for 16 games (17 now)

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@"Skodin" said:
With a player like this available, I really wish we knew what we have in Udoh playing RT. 

ONeill to LT, Reiff (who played well) off the books.

ONeill-Thuney-Bradburry-Cleveland-Udoh could have serious potential and a nice blend of contract values



I think Udoh is one of those players that the fans like more than the team does.

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I continue to find the Reiff comments head-scratching.  LT is the toughest position to find on the OL.  Reiff was the best, or perhaps second-best offensive lineman we had last year.  The OL sucks and needs big improvement, but we have very limited resources.  Step #1: get rid of Reiff.  Hmm....

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@"Purpleblooded" said: I continue to find the Reiff comments head-scratching.  LT is the toughest position to find on the OL.  Reiff was the best, or perhaps second-best offensive lineman we had last year.  The OL sucks and needs big improvement, but we have very limited resources.  Step #1: get rid of Reiff.  Hmm....
It's not based on Reiff's play. He was very good last year. But, would the team be better off, cutting Reiff, drafting a LT & using his cap savings to address other needs? 

 

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@"Knucklehead" said:
@"Purpleblooded" said: I continue to find the Reiff comments head-scratching.  LT is the toughest position to find on the OL.  Reiff was the best, or perhaps second-best offensive lineman we had last year.  The OL sucks and needs big improvement, but we have very limited resources.  Step #1: get rid of Reiff.  Hmm....
It's not based on Reiff's play. He was very good last year. But, would the team be better off, cutting Reiff, drafting a LT & using his cap savings to address other needs? 



That's the 12 million dollar question. 

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@"Knucklehead" said:
@"Purpleblooded" said: I continue to find the Reiff comments head-scratching.  LT is the toughest position to find on the OL.  Reiff was the best, or perhaps second-best offensive lineman we had last year.  The OL sucks and needs big improvement, but we have very limited resources.  Step #1: get rid of Reiff.  Hmm....
It's not based on Reiff's play. He was very good last year. But, would the team be better off, cutting Reiff, drafting a LT & using his cap savings to address other needs? 

 



Exactly.  I thought Riley had a great year last year, I would love to keep him but at what cost.

Does the play of ONeill-Thuney with Udoh at RT exceed Reiff-Dozier with ONeill at RT?  I would have to believe it does especially considering the fastest way to the QB is through the A gap.

If there was a way to keep Riley and add Thuney, I would be all for it even if it meant moving on from Rudy and Harris.  

Maybe Kirk can restructure a little money to ensure that Thuney could protect him

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I LOVE LAMP.

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@"BarrNone55" said: I LOVE LAMP.
Lamp was awesome in college, but I have to admit I lost track of him after he spent so much time on the bench in San Diego. Looking at PFF he might just be the anti-Viking. Grades pretty well in pass pro but pretty poorly in run blocking. 
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: I LOVE LAMP.
Lamp was awesome in college, but I have to admit I lost track of him after he spent so much time on the bench in San Diego. Looking at PFF he might just be the anti-Viking. Grades pretty well in pass pro but pretty poorly in run blocking. 
 Tore his acl in rookie camp, out for the season.  Had a knee scope prior to the following season and really never got on track recovering.  2019 broke his femur.  2020 started every game at LG for the Chargers.  So he wasn't on the bench, he was in the training room with injury...but he's talented and has upside as a low risk/high reward type signing.
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@"Knucklehead" said:
@"Skodin" said:
With a player like this available, I really wish we knew what we have in Udoh playing RT. 

ONeill to LT, Reiff (who played well) off the books.

ONeill-Thuney-Bradburry-Cleveland-Udoh could have serious potential and a nice blend of contract values



I think Udoh is one of those players that the fans like more than the team does.


Agreed. 40 or so snaps vs a disinterested Khalil Mack really had some folks pumped. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Reiff had walked instead of agreeing to a pay cut.

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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"Knucklehead" said:
@"Skodin" said:
With a player like this available, I really wish we knew what we have in Udoh playing RT. 

ONeill to LT, Reiff (who played well) off the books.

ONeill-Thuney-Bradburry-Cleveland-Udoh could have serious potential and a nice blend of contract values



I think Udoh is one of those players that the fans like more than the team does.


Agreed. 40 or so snaps vs a disinterested Khalil Mack really had some folks pumped. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Reiff had walked instead of agreeing to a pay cut.


We'll find out a lot about what they think of Udoh in a few weeks when the Vikings have to decide whether or not they're going to keep Rashod Hill around. 

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Get a legit Offensive line coach and many of the problems will be solved.

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