Pretty good top of the WR class this year...

I think if any of those SEC WRs are there (Chase, Waddle, or Smith)at #14 we've got some options...

I definitely think that they should be looking at wide receiver and expanding the offense.

@"BarrNone55" said: I think if any of those SEC WRs are there (Chase, Waddle, or Smith)at #14 we've got some options...

I can see Chase going in top 10...But there will be some talent @14 no doubt. 

I know the easy answer is trade down and grab a DT or OL instead. 

Hey, we just hired a WR coach known for developing talent. Thielen is aging, sure, but should be productive a couple more years. I would think about some talent in the 3rd-5th range for McCardell to mold.

at 14 we need to be looking at a player that has both a high ceiling,  but be able to make an immediate impact to our O or D (QBs excluded of course)  a WR in round 1 would likely be WR3 and in a kubiak type offense WR3 is historically used less than both the TEs and RBs in terms of pass production.  I couldnt get on board with a first round WR,  unless the team was ready to move on from AT and I am quite certain that is no the case.

@"BarrNone55" said: I think if any of those SEC WRs are there (Chase, Waddle, or Smith)at #14 we've got some options...

Tempting, but this looks like a deep class of receivers. Can probably pull a 3rd receiver from the 3rd or 4th round. Really like what I'm seeing from Nico Collins, Shi Smith, Eskridge, Darden...the last three of these would be good return options, too. Don't think KJ Osborn is gonna cut it. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: I think if any of those SEC WRs are there (Chase, Waddle, or Smith)at #14 we've got some options...

Tempting, but this looks like a deep class of receivers. Can probably pull a 3rd receiver from the 3rd or 4th round. Really like what I'm seeing from Nico Collins, Shi Smith, Eskridge, Darden...the last three of these would be good return options, too. Don't think KJ Osborn is gonna cut it. 

Eskridge is really intriguing. As is Shi Smith.

RS drafts for need in the first round and we have greater needs elsewhere, so I doubt WR is in play at 14. Maybe if we trade back. 

I don't see what another first round WR does for our offense.  We already have Thielen, Jefferson, Irv, and Dalvin...  and Beebe, Bisi, Conklin, etc. as secondary options.

The single best thing we could do for our team is invest in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  Look at what a Zimmer defense looks like without pass rushers or a good 3T.  We need better than Dozier at LG.

The only non-OL/DL player I would consider at 14 is a QB.  Rick needs to avoid a flashy skill player and get some big boys early in the draft.

@"Wetlander" said: I don't see what another first round WR does for our offense.  We already have Thielen, Jefferson, Irv, and Dalvin...  and Beebe, Bisi, Conklin, etc. as secondary options.

The single best thing we could do for our team is invest in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  Look at what a Zimmer defense looks like without pass rushers or a good 3T.  We need better than Dozier at LG.

The only non-OL/DL player I would consider at 14 is a QB.  Rick needs to avoid a flashy skill player and get some big boys early in the draft.

A WR at 14 isn't going to happen. Our biggest and most urgent need is at 3T. If it's not filled in free agency, then it has to be our pick in the 1st.

If we do fill it in free agency, then the pick is either Edge or OL, with Safety and QB being the only other remaining (but less likely) possibilities IMO. 

I think we'll draft a WR who can potentially upgrade WR3 Bisi Johnson, improve our return game and potentially be a developmental replacement for Thielen down the road, but methinks this is more a middle round target this year. Probably moves up a little next year though. 

Is WR a need? No, not this year and probably not the next. I guess it really depends on who is still on the board at positions of need. About the only position that jeopardizes my Samsung is a back 7 defender.

All good points. I doubt anyone's Samsungs are at risk. 

They'll have some real tough decisions on their hands if Waddle is sitting there @ 14 though. I think its a distinct possibility. We'll see. 

@"BarrNone55" said: Is WR a need? No, not this year and probably not the next. I guess it really depends on who is still on the board at positions of need. About the only position that jeopardizes my Samsung is a back 7 defender.

Would LB make you throw a rock, even though it is in the back 7? I agree WR is not a need (in the 1st round) and definitely expect OL or DL. But I could see LB as a "next level" priority, especially if the team parts ways with Barr. Even if Barr stays, depth has been a problem and will be worse if Wilson leaves. I actually saw a mock with Micah Parsons falling to us...seems a long shot but I think Zimmer would jump if he was available.

@"Jor-El" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Is WR a need? No, not this year and probably not the next. I guess it really depends on who is still on the board at positions of need. About the only position that jeopardizes my Samsung is a back 7 defender.

Would LB make you throw a rock, even though it is in the back 7? I agree WR is not a need (in the 1st round) and definitely expect OL or DL. But I could see LB as a "next level" priority, especially if the team parts ways with Barr. Even if Barr stays, depth has been a problem and will be worse if Wilson leaves. I actually saw a mock with Micah Parsons falling to us...seems a long shot but I think Zimmer would jump if he was available.

@"Jor-El" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Is WR a need? No, not this year and probably not the next. I guess it really depends on who is still on the board at positions of need. About the only position that jeopardizes my Samsung is a back 7 defender.

Would LB make you throw a rock, even though it is in the back 7? I agree WR is not a need (in the 1st round) and definitely expect OL or DL. But I could see LB as a "next level" priority, especially if the team parts ways with Barr. Even if Barr stays, depth has been a problem and will be worse if Wilson leaves. I actually saw a mock with Micah Parsons falling to us...seems a long shot but I think Zimmer would jump if he was available.

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Jor-El" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Is WR a need? No, not this year and probably not the next. I guess it really depends on who is still on the board at positions of need. About the only position that jeopardizes my Samsung is a back 7 defender.

Would LB make you throw a rock, even though it is in the back 7? I agree WR is not a need (in the 1st round) and definitely expect OL or DL. But I could see LB as a "next level" priority, especially if the team parts ways with Barr. Even if Barr stays, depth has been a problem and will be worse if Wilson leaves. I actually saw a mock with Micah Parsons falling to us...seems a long shot but I think Zimmer would jump if he was available.

Throw a rock? No. It would be more like a mushroom cloud. You don't spend the #14 pick on depth or for a player that typically would be in on only 30% of the snaps. 

No. Fuck no.