Texans got a new coach

Texans have interviewed Jim Caldwell and QB Josh McCown for their head coach position, per @TomPelissero, @MikeGarafolo pic.twitter.com/sqDUV9USYH

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) January 22, 2021

Houston Texans expected to seek second interviews with Bills' Leslie Frazier, Chiefs' Eric Bieniemy, sources say

The Houston Texans are expected to request second interviews with Buffalo Billsdefensive coordinator Leslie Frazier and Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy after Sunday's AFC Championship Game, sources told ESPN.
Both candidates believe they have a legitimate chance to land the Texans' head-coaching job and have begun assembling coaching staffs in the event that they are hired, sources said.
Frazier is said to have had a strong interview with the Texans and has previous head-coaching experience from his time with the Minnesota Vikings. Bieniemy is viewed in many circles as a head coach in waiting, though he has recently been passed over by several teams.
As Houston's head-coaching search ramps up, the winning coordinator from Sunday's game could be the loser in the Texans' search, as they would have to wait to hire him. The Texans could act quicker with the coordinator from the losing team.
This scenario played a key role in the Los Angeles Chargers' hiring of Brandon Staley last weekend over Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll. Once Staley's Rams were eliminated from the playoffs, the Chargers were unwilling to wait for Daboll and hired Staley.
Other candidates the Texans have interviewed include quarterback Josh McCown, former Lions and Colts coach Jim Caldwell, Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus and Ravens assistant head coach David Culley. 
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30770584/texans-expected-seek-second-interviews-buffalo-bills-leslie-frazier-kansas-city-chiefs-eric-bieniemy-sources-say

I read somewhere before all these vacancies that Bieniemy did not interview well with any team in the past.  Although, its seems like the media etc think he is no-brainer.  I might have also read that he has had a DUI (or something/hope I am not disparaging him).

I am not sold on Bieniemy being an Off guru when I am not sure if he even calls the plays over Reid.  With Mahomes and the surrounding talent I think I would be considered for HC jobs.  Lastly, I just can't over him sending the FB in at the end of our Saints bountygate game.  Sorry, I am holding a grudge.  Actually it's not just a grudge on Bieniemy it is against all Viking Gods including Thor.  

Frazier really??  Reminds me of milquetoast in the Dungy range.  I like both but not as HC's.  I am also sick of retreads be bold, not as bold as the Lions, but .....

@"minny65" said: I read somewhere before all these vacancies that Bieniemy did not interview well with any team in the past.  Although, its seems like the media etc think he is no-brainer.  I might have also read that he has had a DUI (or something/hope I am not disparaging him).

I am not sold on Bieniemy being an Off guru when I am not sure if he even calls the plays over Reid.  With Mahomes and the surrounding talent I think I would be considered for HC jobs.  Lastly, I just can't over him sending the FB in at the end of our Saints bountygate game.  Sorry, I am holding a grudge.  Actually it's not just a grudge on Bieniemy it is against all Viking Gods including Thor.  

Frazier really??  Reminds me of milquetoast in the Dungy range.  I like both but not as HC's.  I am also sick of retreads be bold, not as bold as the Lions, but .....

If you are not sold on him as an offensive guru then that is fair. I am not either. However, the "does not interview well", "does not call plays", DUI and 12 players on the field mishap are just questionable talking points and I must add starting to feel like an excuse. Here are some examples  

1. Mike Vrabel is a head coach  even though he had a DUI in 2011 and was also arrested. That did not stop him. Bieniemy was arrested in 1993 and had a DUI 2001. But yeah, its a big deal in 2021.
   https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/55016836730847233
2. Dan Campbell is the Lions head coach without ever being an OC nor DC. But we don't think Bieniemy is ready even though has been an OC since 2018 and won a SB as one. Campbell was interim coach with a 5-7 record I must add. If Bieniemy had such an introductory conference like Campbell did he would have been fired on the spot.
3. When Doug Pederson was hired, it was well known he did not call plays until he mentioned in his introductory press conference that he called second half plays. So he was not the primary play caller in KC either.
4. Matt Nagy was not the primary play caller in KC. That did not stop him either

I will end with this quote:

"Jeff Kerr" said:

The Chiefs had the No. 1 offense in Bieniemy's first year as offensive coordinator and the No. 5 offense in year two, yet no head coaching jobs were offered to him. Bieniemy's taken the same path as his predecessors, who also weren't the primary play callers in Kansas City when they were learning how to be a head coach under Reid.
"I've always been that way with it (play-calling)," Reid said. "I think it's important that everybody's on the same page and involved with it. So, I don't really care who's calling it or not calling it. I just want to make sure that it gets called and that we've got good plays to call from. That's where I put my energy."

Source: www.cbssports.com

I hope you understand why this is starting to smell fishy. If you think he is not a good candidate for head coach because you are not sold on his football accumen or man management style, that is OK. But that becomes questionable when you hire someone who is proud to say he is not an x and o guy.
I am not against anyone being hired, I am just at the loss with some the lame excuses being offered why they picked A over B.

It's the good old boys network and it fucking stinks. There is so much hypocrisy regarding Bieniemy that it's beyond ridiculous.

@"mblack" said:

@"minny65" said: I read somewhere before all these vacancies that Bieniemy did not interview well with any team in the past.  Although, its seems like the media etc think he is no-brainer.  I might have also read that he has had a DUI (or something/hope I am not disparaging him).

I am not sold on Bieniemy being an Off guru when I am not sure if he even calls the plays over Reid.  With Mahomes and the surrounding talent I think I would be considered for HC jobs.  Lastly, I just can't over him sending the FB in at the end of our Saints bountygate game.  Sorry, I am holding a grudge.  Actually it's not just a grudge on Bieniemy it is against all Viking Gods including Thor.  

Frazier really??  Reminds me of milquetoast in the Dungy range.  I like both but not as HC's.  I am also sick of retreads be bold, not as bold as the Lions, but .....

If you are not sold on him as an offensive guru then that is fair. I am not either. However, the "does not interview well", "does not call plays", DUI and 12 players on the field mishap are just questionable talking points and I must add starting to feel like an excuse. Here are some examples  

1. Mike Vrabel is a head coach  even though he had a DUI in 2011 and was also arrested. That did not stop him. Bieniemy was arrested in 1993 and had a DUI 2001. But yeah, its a big deal in 2021.
   https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/55016836730847233
2. Dan Campbell is the Lions head coach without ever being an OC nor DC. But we don't think Bieniemy is ready even though has been an OC since 2018 and won a SB as one. Campbell was interim coach with a 5-7 record I must add. If Bieniemy had such an introductory conference like Campbell did he would have been fired on the spot.
3. When Doug Pederson was hired, it was well known he did not call plays until he mentioned in his introductory press conference that he called second half plays. So he was not the primary play caller in KC either.
4. Matt Nagy was not the primary play caller in KC. That did not stop him either

I will end with this quote:

"Jeff Kerr" said:

The Chiefs had the No. 1 offense in Bieniemy's first year as offensive coordinator and the No. 5 offense in year two, yet no head coaching jobs were offered to him. Bieniemy's taken the same path as his predecessors, who also weren't the primary play callers in Kansas City when they were learning how to be a head coach under Reid.
"I've always been that way with it (play-calling)," Reid said. "I think it's important that everybody's on the same page and involved with it. So, I don't really care who's calling it or not calling it. I just want to make sure that it gets called and that we've got good plays to call from. That's where I put my energy."

Source: www.cbssports.com

I hope you understand why this is starting to smell fishy. If you think he is not a good candidate for head coach because you are not sold on his football accumen or man management style, that is OK. But that becomes questionable when you hire someone who is proud to say he is not an x and o guy.
I am not against anyone being hired, I am just at the loss with some the lame excuses being offered why they picked A over B.

@"minny65" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"minny65" said: I read somewhere before all these vacancies that Bieniemy did not interview well with any team in the past.  Although, its seems like the media etc think he is no-brainer.  I might have also read that he has had a DUI (or something/hope I am not disparaging him).

I am not sold on Bieniemy being an Off guru when I am not sure if he even calls the plays over Reid.  With Mahomes and the surrounding talent I think I would be considered for HC jobs.  Lastly, I just can't over him sending the FB in at the end of our Saints bountygate game.  Sorry, I am holding a grudge.  Actually it's not just a grudge on Bieniemy it is against all Viking Gods including Thor.  

Frazier really??  Reminds me of milquetoast in the Dungy range.  I like both but not as HC's.  I am also sick of retreads be bold, not as bold as the Lions, but .....

If you are not sold on him as an offensive guru then that is fair. I am not either. However, the "does not interview well", "does not call plays", DUI and 12 players on the field mishap are just questionable talking points and I must add starting to feel like an excuse. Here are some examples  

1. Mike Vrabel is a head coach  even though he had a DUI in 2011 and was also arrested. That did not stop him. Bieniemy was arrested in 1993 and had a DUI 2001. But yeah, its a big deal in 2021.
   https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/55016836730847233
2. Dan Campbell is the Lions head coach without ever being an OC nor DC. But we don't think Bieniemy is ready even though has been an OC since 2018 and won a SB as one. Campbell was interim coach with a 5-7 record I must add. If Bieniemy had such an introductory conference like Campbell did he would have been fired on the spot.
3. When Doug Pederson was hired, it was well known he did not call plays until he mentioned in his introductory press conference that he called second half plays. So he was not the primary play caller in KC either.
4. Matt Nagy was not the primary play caller in KC. That did not stop him either

I will end with this quote:

"Jeff Kerr" said:

The Chiefs had the No. 1 offense in Bieniemy's first year as offensive coordinator and the No. 5 offense in year two, yet no head coaching jobs were offered to him. Bieniemy's taken the same path as his predecessors, who also weren't the primary play callers in Kansas City when they were learning how to be a head coach under Reid.
"I've always been that way with it (play-calling)," Reid said. "I think it's important that everybody's on the same page and involved with it. So, I don't really care who's calling it or not calling it. I just want to make sure that it gets called and that we've got good plays to call from. That's where I put my energy."

Source: www.cbssports.com

I hope you understand why this is starting to smell fishy. If you think he is not a good candidate for head coach because you are not sold on his football accumen or man management style, that is OK. But that becomes questionable when you hire someone who is proud to say he is not an x and o guy.
I am not against anyone being hired, I am just at the loss with some the lame excuses being offered why they picked A over B.

Yea I know you are not attacking me at all but I am not sold on Bieniemy at all and I really think I just have that Viking call trauma as I mentioned.  Not from the media but from memory.  In addition, the Dan Campbell hire has backfired less then a week in and that has to be an all-time record.  

I did not do any research it was just a top line thought process and conversation.  Bieniemy was RB coach when we had AD/Chester Taylor and now OC with Mahomes and Reid as HC.  I am not against him being a HC I just don't buy into the media hype that it would be a crime against humanity either.

Now lets discuss this Dan Campbell character :)   I wouldn't even let my kid play for "The Dude" after that psycho kneecap speech.  

Quite possible we're all going to be having some serious HC discussions next year. Not sure I like the names being bantered about.

 If the 21 team craps the bed? That's probably it for Olde Zimmsu. 

The #Texans are working towards a deal with David Culley to make him their head coach, sources tell me, @RapSheet and @MikeGarafolo.

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 28, 2021

As a person who has sit in on many interviews for hiring,  It is as not cut and dried as the most popular candidate or the best resume gets the job. There are many people who just interview badly period.  Especially a first interview can be less than impressive and a second interview gives a better feel for a candidate.  Unfortunately some candidates do not get to a second interview because of the first.  

In the hiring process you have to narrow it down to a couple good candidates in order to focus in on getting the committee to do a deeper evaluation.

Every year the media has darling candidates that may be based on real feelings and qualifications or just based on a couple writers getting a bug for a guy who happens to be on a successful team.

Honestly Zimmer was a guy overlooked and passed over for years because from what I have read he interviewed poorly.  
BTW momentum for or against a person in a committee is real.  One influential person takes a dislike or brings up some sketchy activity and that person is sometimes just done.  Or a candidate gets someone pushing for them or focused on that person and a committee will over look flaws.

All this being said,  how in the world Dan Campbell ever got a head coaching job is just a horrible breakdown of the hiring system. 

@"PSBLAKE" said: As a person who has sit in on many interviews for hiring,  It is as not cut and dried as the most popular candidate or the best resume gets the job. There are many people who just interview badly period.  Especially a first interview can be less than impressive and a second interview gives a better feel for a candidate.  Unfortunately some candidates do not get to a second interview because of the first.  

In the hiring process you have to narrow it down to a couple good candidates in order to focus in on getting the committee to do a deeper evaluation.

Every year the media has darling candidates that may be based on real feelings and qualifications or just based on a couple writers getting a bug for a guy who happens to be on a successful team.

Honestly Zimmer was a guy overlooked and passed over for years because from what I have read he interviewed poorly.  

BTW momentum for or against a person in a committee is real.  One influential person takes a dislike or brings up some sketchy activity and that person is sometimes just done.  Or a candidate gets someone pushing for them or focused on that person and a committee will over look flaws.

All this being said,  how in the world Dan Campbell ever got a head coaching job is just a horrible breakdown of the hiring system. 

At the bold
Or maybe it isnt.

Just to put things in perspective. Everyone said Zim was passed over in many interviews (which is true). He interviewed for six jobs in three years

Zimmer reportedly went on to interview, over the next three offseasons, with Cleveland, Indianapolis, Miami, Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Tennessee.

Source: Washingtonpost

Eric B. Has interviewed with 12 teams and still does not have a job. So please this situation is not similar to Zimmer's.
When Zimmer interviewed for a head coaching job he was not at EB's level. Here is what EB has:
- OC of a top 2 offense the past two years - OC of superbowl winning team
- OC of superbowl participating team
- OC of league MVP

Zimmer never had such status so please lets stop the comparison. As a matter of fact EB in one year has the almost the same number of interviews Zimmer has in three years. Let that sink in.

Bieniemy has now interviewed with five of the six teams that have head-coaching vacancies this offseason. The only team that has surprisingly did not request a head-coaching interview with Bieniemy is the Houston Texans. They appeared to be a prime landing spot for Bieniemy, but they seem to have different plans, at least for now.

In total, Bieniemy has now interviewed with 12 NFL teams over the course of the past three head-coaching interview cycles. It’s hard to imagine with five teams showing interest this season that he’d be unable to secure a job.

Source: chiefswire

EB must be such a terrible candidate that he screwed up 12 chances when people are getting jobs with minimal qualifications and experience. At what point do you start questioning the process? What do the following have that is anywhere close to EB's resume?
Staley (Chargers)
Siriani (Eagles)
Campbell (Lions)
Smith (Falcons)
I am sure they had "great interviews".

@"mblack" said:

@"PSBLAKE" said: As a person who has sit in on many interviews for hiring,  It is as not cut and dried as the most popular candidate or the best resume gets the job. There are many people who just interview badly period.  Especially a first interview can be less than impressive and a second interview gives a better feel for a candidate.  Unfortunately some candidates do not get to a second interview because of the first.  

In the hiring process you have to narrow it down to a couple good candidates in order to focus in on getting the committee to do a deeper evaluation.

Every year the media has darling candidates that may be based on real feelings and qualifications or just based on a couple writers getting a bug for a guy who happens to be on a successful team.

Honestly Zimmer was a guy overlooked and passed over for years because from what I have read he interviewed poorly.  

BTW momentum for or against a person in a committee is real.  One influential person takes a dislike or brings up some sketchy activity and that person is sometimes just done.  Or a candidate gets someone pushing for them or focused on that person and a committee will over look flaws.

All this being said,  how in the world Dan Campbell ever got a head coaching job is just a horrible breakdown of the hiring system. 

At the bold
Or maybe it isnt.

Just to put things in perspective. Everyone said Zim was passed over in many interviews (which is true). He interviewed for six jobs in three years

Zimmer reportedly went on to interview, over the next three offseasons, with Cleveland, Indianapolis, Miami, Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Tennessee.

Source: Washingtonpost

Eric B. Has interviewed with 12 teams and still does not have a job. So please this situation is not similar to Zimmer's. It is worse especially when he is OC of a top 3 offense the past three years and has helped a team win one superbowl and also playing in another- something Zimmer did not have when he interviewed. Zimmer never has such status so please lets stop the comparison.

Bieniemy has now interviewed with five of the six teams that have head-coaching vacancies this offseason. The only team that has surprisingly did not request a head-coaching interview with Bieniemy is the Houston Texans. They appeared to be a prime landing spot for Bieniemy, but they seem to have different plans, at least for now.

In total, Bieniemy has now interviewed with 12 NFL teams over the course of the past three head-coaching interview cycles. It’s hard to imagine with five teams showing interest this season that he’d be unable to secure a job.

Source: chiefswire

EB must be such a terrible candidate that he screwed up 12 chances when people are getting jobs with minimal qualifications and experience. At what point do you start questioning the process? What do the following have that is anywhere close to EB's resume?
Staley (Chargers)
Siriani (Eagles)
Campbell (Lions)
Smith (Falcons)
I am sure they had "great interviews".

Well, we are probably one more bad season away from a new HC. EB would be a natural fit. 

@"PSBLAKE" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"PSBLAKE" said: As a person who has sit in on many interviews for hiring,  It is as not cut and dried as the most popular candidate or the best resume gets the job. There are many people who just interview badly period.  Especially a first interview can be less than impressive and a second interview gives a better feel for a candidate.  Unfortunately some candidates do not get to a second interview because of the first.  

In the hiring process you have to narrow it down to a couple good candidates in order to focus in on getting the committee to do a deeper evaluation.

Every year the media has darling candidates that may be based on real feelings and qualifications or just based on a couple writers getting a bug for a guy who happens to be on a successful team.

Honestly Zimmer was a guy overlooked and passed over for years because from what I have read he interviewed poorly.  

BTW momentum for or against a person in a committee is real.  One influential person takes a dislike or brings up some sketchy activity and that person is sometimes just done.  Or a candidate gets someone pushing for them or focused on that person and a committee will over look flaws.

All this being said,  how in the world Dan Campbell ever got a head coaching job is just a horrible breakdown of the hiring system. 

At the bold
Or maybe it isnt.

Just to put things in perspective. Everyone said Zim was passed over in many interviews (which is true). He interviewed for six jobs in three years

Zimmer reportedly went on to interview, over the next three offseasons, with Cleveland, Indianapolis, Miami, Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Tennessee.

Source: Washingtonpost

Eric B. Has interviewed with 12 teams and still does not have a job. So please this situation is not similar to Zimmer's. It is worse especially when he is OC of a top 3 offense the past three years and has helped a team win one superbowl and also playing in another- something Zimmer did not have when he interviewed. Zimmer never has such status so please lets stop the comparison.

Bieniemy has now interviewed with five of the six teams that have head-coaching vacancies this offseason. The only team that has surprisingly did not request a head-coaching interview with Bieniemy is the Houston Texans. They appeared to be a prime landing spot for Bieniemy, but they seem to have different plans, at least for now.

In total, Bieniemy has now interviewed with 12 NFL teams over the course of the past three head-coaching interview cycles. It’s hard to imagine with five teams showing interest this season that he’d be unable to secure a job.

Source: chiefswire

EB must be such a terrible candidate that he screwed up 12 chances when people are getting jobs with minimal qualifications and experience. At what point do you start questioning the process? What do the following have that is anywhere close to EB's resume?
Staley (Chargers)
Siriani (Eagles)
Campbell (Lions)
Smith (Falcons)
I am sure they had "great interviews".

not disagreeing at all and honestly I think if the Vikings had passed on  Zimmer he might never have gotten a HC job.  I have no clue how Bienamy interviews or why he hasnt got a head coaching job.  Honestly just from a hiring perspective when a person gets passed over so much people on committees begin to wonder why.  

sometimes its just bad luck or bad interviewing or a combination of both.  I wish Bienamy would come here honestly and bring some of that Chiefs mojo with him.  Zimmer is getting to the point where if he doesnt change his coaching style he will get left farther behind.

 But seriously The Lions are broken for hiring that bafoon.  

This hiring has a Les Steckle vibe...wonder if he'll punch himself in the face?

When new Texans coach Culley was WR coach and assistant head coach in Kansas City (2014), the WR unit got zero touchbdowns that year (I dont know how that is even possible). But they liked his ability to connect with players

@"mblack" said: When new Texans coach Culley was WR coach and assistant head coach in Kansas City (2014), the WR unit got zero touchbdowns that year (I dont know how that is even possible). But they liked his ability to connect with players

Hope it works out for them except when they play the Vikes.

@"BarrNone55" said: Well, we are probably one more bad season away from a new HC. EB would be a natural fit. 

I'd have to be assured it's really because of EB and not EB on Andy Reid's sideline (and a Mahomes @ QB). His stock will probably go way up when KC wins a 2nd SB next week. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: Well, we are probably one more bad season away from a new HC. EB would be a natural fit. 

I'd have to be assured it's really because of EB and not EB on Andy Reid's sideline (and a Mahomes @ QB). His stock will probably go way up when KC wins a 2nd SB next week. 

@"BarrNone55" said: Well, we are probably one more bad season away from a new HC. EB would be a natural fit. 

I just don't get the Eric Bienemy stuff.  What has Eric Bienemy done to make him deserving of running a team as a head coach despite the media fawning all over him?  His two biggest claims to fame are that he coached Adrian Peterson as a rookie and he's the Chiefs offensive coordinator under Reid with Pat Mahomes at QB.  Peterson was one of the physically gifted and talented backs to ever play in league and was going to be a great player whether Bienemy was his RB coach or Betty White was. Andy Reid runs that offense in KC and is the play caller.  Last time we fell into this trap we chased another Reid offensive coordinator who also didn't call plays while the Eagles were rolling behind Donovan McNabb and we got stuck with Brad Childress and his "kick ass" offense. No thanks...we've had this dance once before