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Stefan Diggs is the best WR in the NFL

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Crazy good and Josh Allen is loving him. 

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Got to go with Adams...damn I hate saying that.

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@"StickyBun" said: Crazy good and Josh Allen is loving him. 
Or it could be a honeymoon phase.  They are sailing along right now,  but at some point they will hit a rough patch and then is when we see if he has grown up or is still the malcontent we traded for Justin Jefferson. 
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Crazy good and Josh Allen is loving him. 
Or it could be a honeymoon phase.  They are sailing along right now,  but at some point they will hit a rough patch and then is when we see if he has grown up or is still the malcontent we traded for Justin Jefferson. 
Its late December, I think any honeymoon phase has come and gone. The Bills are as good as anyone in the AFC, including KC now that they have John Brown about to come back. Diggs has been sensational for Buffalo. Everyone thought Allen wouldn't be accurate enough but the kid is money this year. He's the next great QB. 
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Crazy good and Josh Allen is loving him. 
Or it could be a honeymoon phase.  They are sailing along right now,  but at some point they will hit a rough patch and then is when we see if he has grown up or is still the malcontent we traded for Justin Jefferson. 
Its late December, I think any honeymoon phase has come and gone. The Bills are as good as anyone in the AFC, including KC now that they have John Brown about to come back. Diggs has been sensational for Buffalo. Everyone thought Allen wouldn't be accurate enough but the kid is money this year. He's the next great QB. 
1 season does not make a career.  Good or bad.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Crazy good and Josh Allen is loving him. 
Or it could be a honeymoon phase.  They are sailing along right now,  but at some point they will hit a rough patch and then is when we see if he has grown up or is still the malcontent we traded for Justin Jefferson. 
Its late December, I think any honeymoon phase has come and gone. The Bills are as good as anyone in the AFC, including KC now that they have John Brown about to come back. Diggs has been sensational for Buffalo. Everyone thought Allen wouldn't be accurate enough but the kid is money this year. He's the next great QB. 
1 season does not make a career.  Good or bad.
But he's not a rookie. It isn't like Diggs hasn't performed well before. But this is a different level. There's way more evidence to show he's a lot more likely to continue to be this impactful than it is this is some kind of one-year wonder type season. He's leading the NFL in receptions and yards. Now if you want to debate that Davante Adams is playing better, I totally get that. But it doesn't make sense to knock his impact with Buffalo because its real and the compensation Minnesota got in return was real, too. Allen has the kind of arm that has made Diggs even more dangerous. 
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Diggs is upper tier, but he's not the best. You can make the case for Devante, but ill go with Hopkins all day...that dude is a monster. Before this year it was hard to argue against Julio (Basically Six straight 1,400 yard seasons).

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I wonder if this thread would've been started if Diggs stayed a Viking?  I agreed Diggs is very good, but I'm not sure he's better than AT or JJ.  Either of those guys on a good team like the Bills would look better than they do with the struggling Vikings.

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Who the hell is Stefan??

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@"purplefaithful" said: Who the hell is Stefan??
Good question but I still love watching Stefon. He is doing things that are amazing. 
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Crazy good and Josh Allen is loving him. 
Or it could be a honeymoon phase.  They are sailing along right now,  but at some point they will hit a rough patch and then is when we see if he has grown up or is still the malcontent we traded for Justin Jefferson. 
Its late December, I think any honeymoon phase has come and gone. The Bills are as good as anyone in the AFC, including KC now that they have John Brown about to come back. Diggs has been sensational for Buffalo. Everyone thought Allen wouldn't be accurate enough but the kid is money this year. He's the next great QB. 
Nothing more to add The Allen- Diggs combination is lethal. If only we could throw the ball more consistently instead of running a 1960 offense.  Say what you want about Diggs ( i am not trying to detail the thread) but he was spot on about the Vikings offense and the direction it was heading.  Good for him for speaking up (you may disagree with the approach). Football is a business right? It's a matter of time before others follow.
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@"purplefaithful" said: Who the hell is Stefan??
lol, spellcheck is on and doing its thing. 
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I hated seeing Diggs go...I'm still grumpy about it. Anyone with 1/2 a brain knew he was just getting into his prime. Just like #84, when that bastard McCombs traded him away. 

Vikings got VERY LUCKY getting JJ...

This Vikings novel usually ends with a Troy Williamson, not a promising Pro Bowl caliber rook. 

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The question is: When the rough patch hits in Buffalo, will his cryptic tweets be directed towards his current team, or will it somehow be Minnesota's fault?

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Allen is playing out of his mind at the moment. Kid is a career sub 60% passer. Has he found the answer or is it lightening in a bottle?

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@"BarrNone55" said: Allen is playing out of his mind at the moment. Kid is a career sub 60% passer. Has he found the answer or is it lightening in a bottle?

Keenum 2.0?

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@"wiviking" said: The question is: When the rough patch hits in Buffalo, will his cryptic tweets be directed towards his current team, or will it somehow be Minnesota's fault?


Another question here in MN: In 3 years, if Jefferson looks around the league and realizes he can't get the gaudy stats playing for Zimmer, will everyone still say he's got "swagger" if he's yelling at Cousins or skipping practices? Everyone thought Diggs was an enthusiastic but humble guy early in his career here, too.

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Crazy good and Josh Allen is loving him. 
Or it could be a honeymoon phase.  They are sailing along right now,  but at some point they will hit a rough patch and then is when we see if he has grown up or is still the malcontent we traded for Justin Jefferson. 
Its late December, I think any honeymoon phase has come and gone. The Bills are as good as anyone in the AFC, including KC now that they have John Brown about to come back. Diggs has been sensational for Buffalo. Everyone thought Allen wouldn't be accurate enough but the kid is money this year. He's the next great QB. 

Those "money" QBs come and go every year.  For every one of them that becomes the next Erin Rodgers 1/2 dozen have a fantastic year or two and then flop.  Look at Wentz as one of the latest examples.  He was pretty darn good and has now set Philly back 1/2 a decade. 

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@"wiviking" said: The question is: When the rough patch hits in Buffalo, will his cryptic tweets be directed towards his current team, or will it somehow be Minnesota's fault?


Another question here in MN: In 3 years, if Jefferson looks around the league and realizes he can't get the gaudy stats playing for Zimmer, will everyone still say he's got "swagger" if he's yelling at Cousins or skipping practices? Everyone thought Diggs was an enthusiastic but humble guy early in his career here, too.


I posted a similar sentiment weeks ago...Nobody wants the Vikings to be known for the place WR's go to die.

Vikings have a proud tradition of wr excellence. Will the accomplishments of Rashad, White, CC, AC, Moss, Thielen be the brand going forward?

Or will it be AP and an archaic run-heavy offense?

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@"Jor-El" said:
@"wiviking" said: The question is: When the rough patch hits in Buffalo, will his cryptic tweets be directed towards his current team, or will it somehow be Minnesota's fault?


Another question here in MN: In 3 years, if Jefferson looks around the league and realizes he can't get the gaudy stats playing for Zimmer, will everyone still say he's got "swagger" if he's yelling at Cousins or skipping practices? Everyone thought Diggs was an enthusiastic but humble guy early in his career here, too.


When players leave and sign with another team, they will often say, I loved my time there, but in the end, the NFL is a business...So, it is a business. And he is here to do a job. Make his team better as best he can.  Outside of professional sports, imagine going on twitter, instagram, or wherever, and trashing your company and your co-workers. Then expecting everything to be fine at 8am on Monday. Diggs is a great receiver. But would you really want to work with him, knowing that eventually, you are gonna be the hashtag?

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@"BarrNone55" said: Allen is playing out of his mind at the moment. Kid is a career sub 60% passer. Has he found the answer or is it lightening in a bottle?

Keenum 2.0?



Allen just set the Bills TD passing record for a season. He's 24 years old. He was a first round pick. He's thrown 30 TDs. How would this be a comparison to journeyman Case Keenum? Allen has gotten better every year as a starter. Allen's completion % is 68.7.

Isn't this why a NFL team draft's a guy for his upside? Saying Allen is a career 'sub 60%' and he's only 24 years old means what exactly? That's what he is going to be forever? As many or MORE QBs from college with big percentage completion numbers never sniff a NFL starting spot or even a roster spot. Picking a QB is risky business in the NFL, zero doubt about that. Plenty of busts all around. College success does not translate to NFL success necessarily, nor do their stats. 

Josh Allen obviously has improved on his weaknesses coming into the league. He's the perfect modern NFL QB physically. I'm sure he'll still make mistakes, he's a young guy. But the Bills could win it all with Allen and will probably have several really good years/chances to do so in the AFC. 

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