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49ers to sign Josh Rosen

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I wish I knew the story on this kid. He's been a flop. 

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@"StickyBun" said: I wish I knew the story on this kid. He's been a flop. 
It's a tale old as time...young QB, behind porous OL, shell shocked, bad habits ensue...
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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"StickyBun" said: I wish I knew the story on this kid. He's been a flop. 
It's a tale old as time...young QB, behind porous OL, shell shocked, had habits ensue...
Probably right. 
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He's the wrong Josh as it turns out.  He's not the Josh you're looking for.  That would be Josh Allen.  I'm not joshing about this.

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Before the 2018 draft, Kubiak said Rosen was the purest passer in the class. The Denver Broncos ultimately passed on him in favor of LB Bradley Chubb.

I've been curious as to how much Kubiak actually likes and knows Rosen... and if he would try to steel him off the Bucs practice squad.

I guess I will never know if Kubiak wasn't that high on Rosen, or if Rosen (a California kid) just didn't like the idea of a cold weather state like Minnesota.

I've seen reports that Rosen turned down roster spots from other teams in favor of the 49ers.

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@"Carl Knowles" said: Before the 2018 draft, Kubiak said Rosen was the purest passer in the class. The Denver Broncos ultimately passed on him in favor of LB Bradley Chubb.

I've been curious as to how much Kubiak actually likes and knows Rosen... and if he would try to steel him off the Bucs practice squad.

I guess I will never know if Kubiak wasn't that high on Rosen, or if Rosen (a California kid) just didn't like the idea of a cold weather state like Minnesota.

I've seen reports that Rosen turned down roster spots from other teams in favor of the 49ers.


I read multiple times that he interviewed really poorly at the combine...came off as quite arrogant to a lot of GMs and coaches. Whether or not people want to accept this, other players not liking the QB does play a role in how hard they play when he's in the game.

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@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"Carl Knowles" said: Before the 2018 draft, Kubiak said Rosen was the purest passer in the class. The Denver Broncos ultimately passed on him in favor of LB Bradley Chubb.

I've been curious as to how much Kubiak actually likes and knows Rosen... and if he would try to steel him off the Bucs practice squad.

I guess I will never know if Kubiak wasn't that high on Rosen, or if Rosen (a California kid) just didn't like the idea of a cold weather state like Minnesota.

I've seen reports that Rosen turned down roster spots from other teams in favor of the 49ers.


I read multiple times that he interviewed really poorly at the combine...came off as quite arrogant to a lot of GMs and coaches. Whether or not people want to accept this, other players not liking the QB does play a role in how hard they play when he's in the game.


Yea, I read a lot of the same pre draft.  I sense some Jay Cutler/Jeff George vibe flowing from Rosen.  But I will say I think Rodgers has a lot of that as well but since he is so good most just over look it/accept.  

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I can't see Shanahan's and Rosen's personalities meshing well together??
I don't know if this is really the guy Kyle wanted. Why didn't they go after him 3 or 4 weeks ago?

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Reading the  tea leaves, san fran is auditioning quarterbacks.

Why now? 

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@"Carl Knowles" said: Before the 2018 draft, Kubiak said Rosen was the purest passer in the class. The Denver Broncos ultimately passed on him in favor of LB Bradley Chubb.

I've been curious as to how much Kubiak actually likes and knows Rosen... and if he would try to steel him off the Bucs practice squad.

I guess I will never know if Kubiak wasn't that high on Rosen, or if Rosen (a California kid) just didn't like the idea of a cold weather state like Minnesota.

I've seen reports that Rosen turned down roster spots from other teams in favor of the 49ers.


I think Rosen is a good fit for what they do in San Francisco, which is the same thing we do, which is probably why Kubiak liked him. As a thrower, he's top notch, but there's something wrong there...and it's not just his personality. Don't know what it is though. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"Carl Knowles" said: Before the 2018 draft, Kubiak said Rosen was the purest passer in the class. The Denver Broncos ultimately passed on him in favor of LB Bradley Chubb.

I've been curious as to how much Kubiak actually likes and knows Rosen... and if he would try to steel him off the Bucs practice squad.

I guess I will never know if Kubiak wasn't that high on Rosen, or if Rosen (a California kid) just didn't like the idea of a cold weather state like Minnesota.

I've seen reports that Rosen turned down roster spots from other teams in favor of the 49ers.


I think Rosen is a good fit for what they do in San Francisco, which is the same thing we do, which is probably why Kubiak liked him. As a thrower, he's top notch, but there's something wrong there...and it's not just his personality. Don't know what it is though. 


Here is some pre draft info from WalterFootball on Rosen:

Weaknesses:

  • Durability
  • Has had at least one concussion
  • Has had shoulder, hand injuries
  • Poor intangibles
  • Questionable leadership traits
  • Quality of teammate
  • Different personality; could clash with teammates and coaches
  • Could have problems with the media


  • Then I read/found this that is kinda funny because I compared him to Cutler in my prior post.

  • Player Comparison: Jay Cutler. There are a lot of similarities between Rosen and Cutler. Both of them possess powerful arms that let the ball explode out of their hands. They also are unique personalities with mixed intangibles. Some teammates will love them, while others may not. Cutler has suffered durability issues during his career, and Rosen could have a similar problem in the NFL. Cutler was a first-round pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, and Rosen is a lock to be a first-rounder in the 2018 NFL Draft.

  • I also slightly remember that some analysts commented on his work ethic and commitment because he is very intelligent and I think came off like he has options other then football and football is not what he wants to define him.
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    @"Mattyman" said: Reading the  tea leaves, san fran is auditioning quarterbacks.

    Why now? 


    If I am reading this correctly it looks like the 49'ers can walk away from Garoppolo with a dead cap of only 2.8 million next year:
    Jimmy Garoppolo signed a 5 year, $137,500,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $7,000,000 signing bonus, $74,100,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $27,500,000. In 2019, Garoppolo will earn a base salary of $17,200,000, a roster bonus of $150,000 and a workout bonus of $600,000, while carrying a cap hit of $19,350,000 and a dead cap value of $13,100,000.
    CONTRACT TERMS:5 yr(s) / $137,500,000SIGNING BONUS$7,000,000AVERAGE SALARY$27,500,000GTD AT SIGN:$41,700,000TOTAL GTD:$74,100,000FREE AGENT:2023 / UFA
     BONUS BREAKDOWNCAP DETAILSCASH DETAILS 
    YEAR AGEBASE SALARYSIGNINGROSTERWORKOUTCAP HITDEAD CAPYEARLY CASH
    201826$6,200,000$1,400,000$28,800,000$600,000$37,000,000 $41,800,000$41,950,000($41,950,000)
    201927$17,200,000$1,400,000$800,000$600,000$20,000,000$13,700,000$18,600,000($60,550,000)
    202028$23,800,000$1,400,000$300,000$600,000$26,100,000 $28,600,000$24,700,000($85,250,000)
    202129$24,100,000$1,400,000$300,000$600,000$26,400,000$2,800,000$25,000,000($110,250,000)
    202230$24,200,000$1,400,000$800,000$600,000$27,000,000$1,400,000$25,600,000($135,850,000)

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