This draft pick
I'd be pretty ticked if we went defense if a good Guard is there for us to take
If we passed on Wyatt Davis to take Paye, this is what you'd see over my house:

Too many decisions yet to be made before we can say with any accuracy what this pick will be. Do we keep or release Reiff, Harry, Harris, Stephen, Rudy? After dumping salary, do we make a free agent signing? If so, at what position?
I could be wrong, but I think if we keep Reiff this will not be an offensive lineman. 2nd or 3rd round maybe, but not the 1st. I will say that if there were any 3Ts worth a pick that high, and we don't sign one in FA, I'd bet good money 3T would be the pick here.
@"StickyBun" said: If we passed on Wyatt Davis to take Paye, this is what you'd see over my house:
That could be one fun math word problem. "If a mushroom cloud forms over Sticky's house and Barr's house at the same time, how long and where do the clouds intersect?"
be sure to show your word.
@"BarrNone55" said:@"StickyBun" said: If we passed on Wyatt Davis to take Paye, this is what you'd see over my house:
That could be one fun math word problem. "If a mushroom cloud forms over Sticky's house and Barr's house at the same time, how long and where do the clouds intersect?"be sure to show your word.
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@"MaroonBells" said: Too many decisions yet to be made before we can say with any accuracy what this pick will be. Do we keep or release Reiff, Harry, Harris, Stephen, Rudy? After dumping salary, do we make a free agent signing? If so, at what position?I could be wrong, but I think if we keep Reiff this will not be an offensive lineman. 2nd or 3rd round maybe, but not the 1st. I will say that if there were any 3Ts worth a pick that high, and we don't sign one in FA, I'd bet good money 3T would be the pick here.
Might be the weakest 3T class in a long time. Wilson bombed and needs a big Senior Bowl to get back into Day 1 early Day 2 conversation. Barmore has been coming on, but hasn't been consistent. Tufele might be the best but opted out. No one I'm seeing worthy of Day 1, so far.
Hitting on bpa and need might be Davis or Darrisaw, who handled Miami's duo pretty well.
I'm going to cross my fingers and hope the cap doesn't drop as much as previously thought.
I want difference makers in the 1st round, guards rarely are difference makers, If we absolutely need to draft a guard, and I think we do, than get one in the 3rd or sign one in FA.
A first round pick better be making big splash plays. The best guards are invisible on Sundays. Even the top guards in most years fall out of the first round.
Edge rushers, 3DTs, CBs, OTs, WRs, QBs, are my targets in the first round. I may be persuaded to take a TE, LB or S but they better be crazy producers in college. I only draft a guard in the 1st if he is once in a generation guard or I have a top roster that has no holes to fill.
As far as Davis, he is not a once in a decade talent, in fact he may not be the best guard in the 21 draft. If that is the case, no thanks, Humphrey, Vera-Tucker, and Smith are all very good candidates to be high drafted guards.
If we absolutely must get one next April, I'll take may chances or trade up into the 2nd. There were ZERO guards drafted in the first round of 2020, only 1, Lindstrom, in 2019 and I think he is average. Yes Q Nelson was taken in the 1st in 18 and been very good but Wynn was the second guard taken in 18 and he was a college tackle. So that is 1 guard in 96 picks that were "stud" guards drafted in the last 3 drafts. So 1 % chance? No thanks.
They need to focus on the offense. If they can get a guard and work on the philosophy, they can get better. They have to score more. Cousins is taking a lot of hits and getting pressured, upgrade the OL.
@"BarrNone55" said:@"MaroonBells" said: Too many decisions yet to be made before we can say with any accuracy what this pick will be. Do we keep or release Reiff, Harry, Harris, Stephen, Rudy? After dumping salary, do we make a free agent signing? If so, at what position?I could be wrong, but I think if we keep Reiff this will not be an offensive lineman. 2nd or 3rd round maybe, but not the 1st. I will say that if there were any 3Ts worth a pick that high, and we don't sign one in FA, I'd bet good money 3T would be the pick here.
I'm going to cross my fingers and hope the cap doesn't drop as much as previously thought.
Me too. But we have a LOT of cap space tied up in cut-able players. Just between the obvious cuts (Barr, Stephen, Rudy) there's got to be close to $25M.
@"BarrNone55" said: @rf54 Good points, but a G makes Cousins better, makes Cook better, makes Thielen, Jefferson, and Irv better.G, on this team, would make a huge difference. Don't believe me? Spend some time watching Dozier.
I have, he needs to be replaced. Just not with a first round pick.
@"Vikergirl" said: They need to focus on the offense. If they can get a guard and work on the philosophy, they can get better. They have to score more. Cousins is taking a lot of hits and getting pressured, upgrade the OL.
I would say they need to make upgrades on both sides of the ball, not just the offense. The D has struggled alot this year. We have virtually no pass rush and we will surely lose 1 starting safety.
@"rf54" said:@"Vikergirl" said: They need to focus on the offense. If they can get a guard and work on the philosophy, they can get better. They have to score more. Cousins is taking a lot of hits and getting pressured, upgrade the OL.
I would say they need to make upgrades on both sides of the ball, not just the offense. The D has struggled alot this year. We have virtually no pass rush and we will surely lose 1 starting safety.
We also have Hunter and Pierce coming back. Maybe Harris walks. They have issues on defense no doubt but in this era, they need to solidify the OL.
@"Vikergirl" said:@"rf54" said:@"Vikergirl" said: They need to focus on the offense. If they can get a guard and work on the philosophy, they can get better. They have to score more. Cousins is taking a lot of hits and getting pressured, upgrade the OL.
I would say they need to make upgrades on both sides of the ball, not just the offense. The D has struggled alot this year. We have virtually no pass rush and we will surely lose 1 starting safety.
We also have Hunter and Pierce coming back. Maybe Harris walks. They have issues on defense no doubt but in this era, they need to solidify the OL.
Pierce is not a pass rusher, in this era you need a pass rush, Hunter cannot do it alone. They will need to fill many holes, I will bet anything right now they don't take Davis, in fact i'll bet they don't go guard in the 1st round.
@"rf54" said:@"Vikergirl" said:@"rf54" said:@"Vikergirl" said: They need to focus on the offense. If they can get a guard and work on the philosophy, they can get better. They have to score more. Cousins is taking a lot of hits and getting pressured, upgrade the OL.
I would say they need to make upgrades on both sides of the ball, not just the offense. The D has struggled alot this year. We have virtually no pass rush and we will surely lose 1 starting safety.
We also have Hunter and Pierce coming back. Maybe Harris walks. They have issues on defense no doubt but in this era, they need to solidify the OL.
Pierce is not a pass rusher, in this era you need a pass rush, Hunter cannot do it alone. They will need to fill many holes, I will bet anything right now they don't take Davis, in fact i'll bet they don't go guard in the 1st round.
There is still a wait and see on Hunter's neck. I agree he can't do it alone. I know Pierce is not a pass rusher but he is still a key part of the defense. They will probably go defense in the first.
Is this a ploy to talk "me" out of a QB? Joking. I hope we get one early on in this draft though.
@"rf54" said:@"Vikergirl" said:@"rf54" said:@"Vikergirl" said: They need to focus on the offense. If they can get a guard and work on the philosophy, they can get better. They have to score more. Cousins is taking a lot of hits and getting pressured, upgrade the OL.
I would say they need to make upgrades on both sides of the ball, not just the offense. The D has struggled alot this year. We have virtually no pass rush and we will surely lose 1 starting safety.
We also have Hunter and Pierce coming back. Maybe Harris walks. They have issues on defense no doubt but in this era, they need to solidify the OL.
Pierce is not a pass rusher, in this era you need a pass rush, Hunter cannot do it alone. They will need to fill many holes, I will bet anything right now they don't take Davis, in fact i'll bet they don't go guard in the 1st round.
Hunter cant do it alone, but he helps everyone on the DL. Pierce will be nice, but there isnt a DT worth taking in the first round and I honestly think Wonnum should be the other starting DE next year and can produce 6-10 sacks. This is a pretty weak Safety class so unless Moehrig is available, we wont reach for a safety. I think they go OL, whether that is guard or tackle and I think that's the wise choise.I've said it a couple of times on this site but with all of the picks from last year and how many seem to hit the field, I think we stock pile our picks and make a couple of trades to get us a second rounder (DE/DT pick, safety pick, LB pick here) and multiple 3rd and 4th round picks (Use for QB, OL Depth, one WR, and DL). We dont need any picks after the 4th IMO...go draft some highly rated players and see what happens
Vikings currently sit at 14. But with three games remaining it looks like the Vikings can pick as low as 22, but are still in the running to pick as high as 4.
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