After watching Washington dismantle the Cowboys
maybe Zimmer should be fired. The cowboys are putrid.
I think cowboys got up for are game we were coming off an emotional win on short week they had a bye the week before and the refs were bad but not the reason we lost
The Cowboys might have been a bit deflated with the loss of the strength and conditioning coach yesterday. The Washington football team has a very good defense too. Good for Alex Smith.
The Cowboys have announced that Markus Paul, surrounded by his family, passed away at the hospital this evening at the age of 54. The cause of death is pending.
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@"Viking1987" said: I think cowboys got up for are game we were coming off an emotional win on short week they had a bye the week before and the refs were bad but not the reason we lostThis ^^. and add "no fans-homefield advantage".
Altho we lost last week, apparently it took a physical toll on the Boys.
Boys lost MANY early in today's contest....which suggests a previous week Battery, despite their close win.
Any stats on team's winning % after facing your team? I couldn't find any stats on that.
all great excuses and may be true but that Cowboys team horrible and the Washington team had 3 wins. just depressing to see an opportunity to beat a terrible team and we blew it.
@"PSBLAKE" said: all great excuses and may be true but that Cowboys team horrible and the Washington team had 3 wins. just depressing to see an opportunity to beat a terrible team and we blew it.k'.
Last year, we (Vikes) went to big D and won the game on a Kendricks miraculously defensive-tipped pass.
Institutional memory. They were well rested, healthy and on the road vs a team with no home-field advantage....with their highly-paid QB back-up ready to roll.
I enjoyed last week's game, albeit a Vikes loss.
Final thought: the NFL is a 1 week (latest) league.
@"PSBLAKE" said: all great excuses and may be true but that Cowboys team horrible and the Washington team had 3 wins. just depressing to see an opportunity to beat a terrible team and we blew it.No excuses. Play calling sucked at times. There is a young defense. Slow first half. Still a work in progress. No expectations for the team this year and maybe next year. The run heavy is not sustainable. Dalvin got up wincing during a shot he took. I will enjoy Jefferson even though he should get more targets. Need a qb for the future.
Cousins played 4 times better than Alex Smith vs the Cowboys and still lost. Coaching has more to the game than many realize. Pressure on Dalton was a major factor.
I said *before* the Cowboy game that Zimmer ought to be fired if we lose. No excuses for that pathetic defensive performance.
@"savannahskol" said:@"Viking1987" said: I think cowboys got up for are game we were coming off an emotional win on short week they had a bye the week before and the refs were bad but not the reason we lost This ^^. and add "no fans-homefield advantage".Altho we lost last week, apparently it took a physical toll on the Boys.
Boys lost MANY early in today's contest....which suggests a previous week Battery, despite their close win.Any stats on team's winning % after facing your team? I couldn't find any stats on that.
Easy now, let's not let logic get in the way of people's narratives.
If we needed fans in the stands to beat this horrible team we for sure need better coaching. Sorry I have not seen one reasonable excuse for losing to a horrible team like the cowboys. No logic at all.
@"PSBLAKE" said: If we needed fans in the stands to beat this horrible team we for sure need better coaching. Sorry I have not seen one reasonable excuse for losing to a horrible team like the cowboys. No logic at all.How's this one:
Because we always have several let-down games every year and mediocre QB's destroy Zimmer's vaunted defensive schemes. This happened even when we had a veteran Top 5 defense never mind with this group of novices. I have been ready to move on from Zimmer since the Eagles debacle and started having doubts before then. He is not a good game day coach.
I don't think Spelly and Zimmer are attached at the hip/package deal like many seem to indicate. I want to move on from Zimmer and keep Spelly. I think Spelly is an excellent drafter, pretty good at free agency in terms of keeping our own and going outside, I think his trades have generally been excellent (harvin and diggs come to mind) both disgruntled and we got very good value/ROI. Lastly, I think Zimmer was a very good first coaching hire by Spelly but the time is up on Zimmer - IMO. I stick with Spelly and have him hire his second HC this offseason pre draft and hone in on a Top QB.
@"minny65" said:@"PSBLAKE" said: If we needed fans in the stands to beat this horrible team we for sure need better coaching. Sorry I have not seen one reasonable excuse for losing to a horrible team like the cowboys. No logic at all. How's this one:Because we always have several let-down games every year and mediocre QB's destroy Zimmer's vaunted defensive schemes. This happened even when we had a veteran Top 5 defense never mind with this group of novices. I have been ready to move on from Zimmer since the Eagles debacle and started having doubts before then. He is not a good game day coach.
I don't think Spelly and Zimmer are attached at the hip/package deal like many seem to indicate. I want to move on from Zimmer and keep Spelly. I think Spelly is an excellent drafter, pretty good at free agency in terms of keeping our own and going outside, I think his trades have generally been excellent (harvin and diggs come to mind) both disgruntled and we got very good value/ROI. Lastly, I think Zimmer was a very good first coaching hire by Spelly but the time is up on Zimmer - IMO. I stick with Spelly and have him hire his second HC this offseason pre draft and hone in on a Top QB.
For what its worth. It seems Rick started hitting on most of picks when Zim got here. Is there anything correlation? Or maybe is it as simple as that the previous coaches were bad at developing talent or could not communicate their needs well or is it that the scouting team has grown better? I dont know
@"mblack" said:@"minny65" said:@"PSBLAKE" said: If we needed fans in the stands to beat this horrible team we for sure need better coaching. Sorry I have not seen one reasonable excuse for losing to a horrible team like the cowboys. No logic at all. How's this one:Because we always have several let-down games every year and mediocre QB's destroy Zimmer's vaunted defensive schemes. This happened even when we had a veteran Top 5 defense never mind with this group of novices. I have been ready to move on from Zimmer since the Eagles debacle and started having doubts before then. He is not a good game day coach.
I don't think Spelly and Zimmer are attached at the hip/package deal like many seem to indicate. I want to move on from Zimmer and keep Spelly. I think Spelly is an excellent drafter, pretty good at free agency in terms of keeping our own and going outside, I think his trades have generally been excellent (harvin and diggs come to mind) both disgruntled and we got very good value/ROI. Lastly, I think Zimmer was a very good first coaching hire by Spelly but the time is up on Zimmer - IMO. I stick with Spelly and have him hire his second HC this offseason pre draft and hone in on a Top QB.
For what its worth. It seems Rick started hitting on most of picks when Zim got here. Is there anything correlation? Or maybe is it as simple as that the previous coaches were bad at developing talent or could not communicate their needs well or is it that the scouting team has grown better? I dont know
I hold Spelly accountable for drafts and such from when he was put in charge as GM in 2012. Prior to that, it was an unheard of corporate structure, I called the triangle of blame:)Spelly, when appointed GM, inherited Leslie Frazier and was stuck with him for two seasons/drafts and was then able to hire his first coach in Zimmer. As far as who Spelly has drafted with Zimmer or without it does not matter (to me) the full responsibility (blame or credit) goes to the GM. The GM is also the person that sets up the personnel, scouts and coaches to do the draft so again the bucks stops with them.
@"minny65" said:@"PSBLAKE" said: If we needed fans in the stands to beat this horrible team we for sure need better coaching. Sorry I have not seen one reasonable excuse for losing to a horrible team like the cowboys. No logic at all. How's this one:Because we always have several let-down games every year and mediocre QB's destroy Zimmer's vaunted defensive schemes. This happened even when we had a veteran Top 5 defense never mind with this group of novices. I have been ready to move on from Zimmer since the Eagles debacle and started having doubts before then. He is not a good game day coach.
I don't think Spelly and Zimmer are attached at the hip/package deal like many seem to indicate. I want to move on from Zimmer and keep Spelly. I think Spelly is an excellent drafter, pretty good at free agency in terms of keeping our own and going outside, I think his trades have generally been excellent (harvin and diggs come to mind) both disgruntled and we got very good value/ROI. Lastly, I think Zimmer was a very good first coaching hire by Spelly but the time is up on Zimmer - IMO. I stick with Spelly and have him hire his second HC this offseason pre draft and hone in on a Top QB.
Oh and to add salt to the wound, Zimmer was outcoached by none other then the buffoon that is Mike McCarthy. He actually has his downtrodden team hyped up to face the mighty Vikings who were turning their season around...ooppps!
@"minny65" said:@"minny65" said:@"PSBLAKE" said: If we needed fans in the stands to beat this horrible team we for sure need better coaching. Sorry I have not seen one reasonable excuse for losing to a horrible team like the cowboys. No logic at all. How's this one:Because we always have several let-down games every year and mediocre QB's destroy Zimmer's vaunted defensive schemes. This happened even when we had a veteran Top 5 defense never mind with this group of novices. I have been ready to move on from Zimmer since the Eagles debacle and started having doubts before then. He is not a good game day coach.
I don't think Spelly and Zimmer are attached at the hip/package deal like many seem to indicate. I want to move on from Zimmer and keep Spelly. I think Spelly is an excellent drafter, pretty good at free agency in terms of keeping our own and going outside, I think his trades have generally been excellent (harvin and diggs come to mind) both disgruntled and we got very good value/ROI. Lastly, I think Zimmer was a very good first coaching hire by Spelly but the time is up on Zimmer - IMO. I stick with Spelly and have him hire his second HC this offseason pre draft and hone in on a Top QB.
Oh and to add salt to the wound, Zimmer was outcoached by none other then the buffoon that is Mike McCarthy. He actually has his downtrodden team hyped up to face the mighty Vikings who were turning their season around...ooppps!
Mike McCarthy was definitely an advantage for the Cowboys. He learned from his experience against the Vikings and made the most of it. Sad but true.
Horse sheet defensive push exposed a young class of DBs---if we had put up a modicum of push on Dalton our dbs would have been better positioned to matchup
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