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Vikings should be in rebuild mode come trade deadline

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That's the time to unload some salaries, gain some draft picks and set the franchise back toward the light at the end of the tunnel. Reiff and Harris are two prime candidates that could gather some real attention. 

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#1 · Oct 21, 1:41 PM
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@"Skodin" said: Players not available: Any draft pick from 19, 20  Kendricks, O'Neill, Cook, Adam, Fedi, Pierce

Players that deserve better teams in 20:

Rudy, Harrison, Harris, Reiff

Players that I don't want to move but have neck injuries and want new contracts:
Hunter

Players that shouldn't ever wear purple again:
Cousins, Barr

IF we can add a couple of picks (2nd, 3rds, 4ths) you have to spend wisely on a new HC to rebuild this team.  A coach I would love to see with a young squad mixed in with some studs?

Harbaugh



No way in hell Harbaugh leaves Baltimore but I do like your thinking. Up until this year I thought Lincoln Riley would be nice but I really dont know if he wants to be in the NFL. Maybe Bienemy would want to come here?

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#42 · Oct 22, 3:47 PM
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@"Skodin" said: Players not available: Any draft pick from 19, 20  Kendricks, O'Neill, Cook, Adam, Fedi, Pierce

Players that deserve better teams in 20:

Rudy, Harrison, Harris, Reiff

Players that I don't want to move but have neck injuries and want new contracts:
Hunter

Players that shouldn't ever wear purple again:
Cousins, Barr

IF we can add a couple of picks (2nd, 3rds, 4ths) you have to spend wisely on a new HC to rebuild this team.  A coach I would love to see with a young squad mixed in with some studs?

Harbaugh


A couple questions/adjustments:
Players not available:
Any draft pick from 19, 20 
Kendricks, O'Neill, Cook, Adam, Fedi, PiercePierce: IDK... We haven't even seen him in purple, he sat out the season, and has had weight problems. I kind of wonder if he will weigh about 380 next summer. If some team makes an offer, I would listen - not on the untouchables list.

Players that deserve better teams in 20:Rudy, Harrison, Harris, ReiffRudolph and Smith perhaps. I would put Ant Harris in the "sell to highest bidder" list.

Players that I don't want to move but have neck injuries and want new contracts:
Hunter
Does Mike Hughes go on this list as well? I know the contract part doesn't apply yet, but honestly, I'm not sure about the "contract" issue with Hunter either - that seemed like speculation that he would be mad if Ngakoue ended up paid more than him. Anyway, Hughes is as much of a question mark as Hunter.

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#43 · Oct 22, 4:43 PM
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Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated reported Thursday afternoon that the Vikings have “let teams know they’ll listen on anyone,” in potential trade talks.

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#44 · Oct 22, 4:50 PM
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@Jimmyin SD

Offset language in a contract can help a team save money if a cut player signs with a new team. For example, if that player who had $6M in guaranteed money left on his contract signs with a new club on a $2M deal, his old team would only be on the hook for $4M, with the new team making up the difference. 

Now with that said, I think only rookie contracts contain offset language. 

So, I think you are right about Cousins contract, no offset language to protect the Vikings.

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@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"Skodin" said: Players not available: Any draft pick from 19, 20  Kendricks, O'Neill, Cook, Adam, Fedi, Pierce

Players that deserve better teams in 20:

Rudy, Harrison, Harris, Reiff

Players that I don't want to move but have neck injuries and want new contracts:
Hunter

Players that shouldn't ever wear purple again:
Cousins, Barr

IF we can add a couple of picks (2nd, 3rds, 4ths) you have to spend wisely on a new HC to rebuild this team.  A coach I would love to see with a young squad mixed in with some studs?

Harbaugh



No way in hell Harbaugh leaves Baltimore but I do like your thinking. Up until this year I thought Lincoln Riley would be nice but I really dont know if he wants to be in the NFL. Maybe Bienemy would want to come here?

Not that Harbaugh.  Harbaugh whose audible back in 92 became a pick 6 to Todd Scott
Young guys, top NFL experience, still high profile.  He built a damn powerhouse SF team

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#46 · Oct 22, 9:25 PM
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Good thing we're not in the NFC East? We might actually be trying to win games at 1-5...

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#47 · Oct 22, 9:52 PM
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@"purplefaithful" said: Vikings will continue to swirl until they get the QB right...


Every team is in swirl mode without a QB, that's been my point about getting one of the top 3 QBs. 

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#48 · Oct 23, 2:58 AM
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: Vikings will continue to swirl until they get the QB right...


Every team is in swirl mode without a QB, that's been my point about getting one of the top 3 QBs. 


That was my point before they brought Cousins in,  hes a decent QB and from all accounts a great person,   but he isn't a QB type that you build your team around and expect him to carry it.  He's got the tools,  but i don't think he has the right mental make up...plenty of smarts,  maybe to much at times.   

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#49 · Oct 23, 5:22 AM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: Vikings will continue to swirl until they get the QB right...


Every team is in swirl mode without a QB, that's been my point about getting one of the top 3 QBs. 


That was my point before they brought Cousins in,  hes a decent QB and from all accounts a great person,   but he isn't a QB type that you build your team around and expect him to carry it.  He's got the tools,  but i don't think he has the right mental make up...plenty of smarts,  maybe to much at times.   



...and I think the team found that out to some extent. But look at the HC for San Fran, Shanahan: HUGE Cousins supporter. I know he believes in Cousins and his ability to take a team all the way. But carry a team? Nope, not IMO. But honestly, there aren't many of those. But the Vikings took a big swing and I applaud them for it. Now its time to retool and rebuild. If the Viking's brass likes either Fields or Lance in a big way, they need to do what it takes to get one. They haven't picked in the top 6 in a LONG time and that's what looks like is going to happen so now is the time. 

Minnesota needs to get on board with the modern NFL QB. 

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#50 · Oct 23, 5:35 AM
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: Vikings will continue to swirl until they get the QB right...


Every team is in swirl mode without a QB, that's been my point about getting one of the top 3 QBs. 


That was my point before they brought Cousins in,  hes a decent QB and from all accounts a great person,   but he isn't a QB type that you build your team around and expect him to carry it.  He's got the tools,  but i don't think he has the right mental make up...plenty of smarts,  maybe to much at times.   



...and I think the team found that out to some extent. But look at the HC for San Fran, Shanahan: HUGE Cousins supporter. I know he believes in Cousins and his ability to take a team all the way. But carry a team? Nope, not IMO. But honestly, there aren't many of those. But the Vikings took a big swing and I applaud them for it. Now its time to retool and rebuild. If the Viking's brass likes either Fields or Lance in a big way, they need to do what it takes to get one. They haven't picked in the top 6 in a LONG time and that's what looks like is going to happen so now is the time. 

Minnesota needs to get on board with the modern NFL QB. 



I applaud them too...They whiffed on Teddy and Bradford too, but I applaud them for those moves as well. I dont have the same opinion on Ponder. 

Time for Zimsu to go after this year - my speak for modernizing the team. 

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#51 · Oct 23, 6:42 AM
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@"Skodin" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"Skodin" said: Players not available: Any draft pick from 19, 20  Kendricks, O'Neill, Cook, Adam, Fedi, Pierce

Players that deserve better teams in 20:

Rudy, Harrison, Harris, Reiff

Players that I don't want to move but have neck injuries and want new contracts:
Hunter

Players that shouldn't ever wear purple again:
Cousins, Barr

IF we can add a couple of picks (2nd, 3rds, 4ths) you have to spend wisely on a new HC to rebuild this team.  A coach I would love to see with a young squad mixed in with some studs?

Harbaugh



No way in hell Harbaugh leaves Baltimore but I do like your thinking. Up until this year I thought Lincoln Riley would be nice but I really dont know if he wants to be in the NFL. Maybe Bienemy would want to come here?

Not that Harbaugh.  Harbaugh whose audible back in 92 became a pick 6 to Todd Scott
Young guys, top NFL experience, still high profile.  He built a damn powerhouse SF team



Harbaugh hasnt won a meaningful game since SF and is constantly outcoached by every good college coach. Hard pass

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