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Jefferson - Adam - Cook plus Irv, Mattison, and Ham.
Deal Kirk and Harry for picks or young G's
Jefferson looked every ounce as good as Julio did today.  He's already a premier WR in this league

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#1 · Oct 18, 2:18 PM
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Here is everuthing youd care to know on ditching Cousins. 

https://overthecap.com/what-can-the-vikings-do-with-kirk-cousins/

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#2 · Oct 18, 2:25 PM
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@"AGRforever" said: Here is everuthing youd care to know on ditching Cousins. 

https://overthecap.com/what-can-the-vikings-do-with-kirk-cousins/

Sounds like it has to be a trade.  Send him to SF so he can play with his boy Shanahan.  I'll take anything to get rid of him, some ammo to ensure we can deal up and grab either Trevor, Jusin, or Trey.  If you don't need the ammo, draft a big OL to play G for the kid

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#3 · Oct 18, 2:36 PM
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Depressing.

The extension they gave him in March is just baffling. It's the kind of deal that would make sense for Rodgers, Brady, Brees - in their prime - that is, for a proven winning quarterback that the team has ZERO DOUBT will be their starter through 2022. Did Cousins' results in 2018 and 2019 actually make Spielman say, "YES!!! I picked the guy, home run by me!!"??? Did the Wilfs buy into it??

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#4 · Oct 18, 2:40 PM
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They're going to draft a qb to sit behind KC...What round and for how long he sits we'll have to see. 

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#5 · Oct 18, 2:42 PM
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He needs to be off the roster next year since if he on the team by day 3 of the league year his 2022 salary is guaranteed basically postponing the inevitable.
That tells me Spelman has a tough decision to make and it may not even be his decision. If we have to lose a high draft pick in a trade then that is a non-starter. We have to absolutely position ourselves for a shot at the top 3 qbs whatever order they may be
We need to draft a qb and start him. That gives the Vikings a cheap qb to build a team around.
The way Kirk's contract is structured we can't have him and a rookie learning. Unless we want to keep throwing good money on bad money. 

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#6 · Oct 18, 2:56 PM
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@"Jor-El" said: Depressing.

The extension they gave him in March is just baffling. It's the kind of deal that would make sense for Rodgers, Brady, Brees - in their prime - that is, for a proven winning quarterback that the team has ZERO DOUBT will be their starter through 2022. Did Cousins' results in 2018 and 2019 actually make Spielman say, "YES!!! I picked the guy, home run by me!!"??? Did the Wilfs buy into it??


The extension was terrible. Many people questioned the intent. Well, thats what bad teams do

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Honestly, and yes honestly, why would any team trade for Cousins when they can go out to the nearest road and stop 3 cars and find 2 people better?

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This contract was bad the day it was signed and it gets worse every week. Sad.
We can't afford to trade away a first round pick just to dump his salary, so we need to cut him and eat the money. Probably need to trade other vets to shed money just to get under the cap.

If nothing else, hopefully more people on this board will read this article, so they can stop proposing we trade Kirk away for an early pick. Never ever gonna happen.

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@"FLVike" said: Honestly, and yes honestly, why would any team trade for Cousins when they can go out to the nearest road and stop 3 cars and find 2 people better?


NOBODY is trading for Cousins. Its a ridiculous premise. Draft a QB, let him sit and learn behind Cousins for 2 years or just under. The team is fucked with his contact in the short term. But that doesn't mean the future QB can't be drafted next Spring. 

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"FLVike" said: Honestly, and yes honestly, why would any team trade for Cousins when they can go out to the nearest road and stop 3 cars and find 2 people better?


NOBODY is trading for Cousins. Its a ridiculous premise. Draft a QB, let him sit and learn behind Cousins for 2 years or just under. The team is fucked with his contact in the short term. But that doesn't mean the future QB can't be drafted next Spring. 

I think you have that backwards. Let me fix it for you.Draft a QB, let Cousins sit and learn behind him for 2 years or just under.

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@"FLVike" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"FLVike" said: Honestly, and yes honestly, why would any team trade for Cousins when they can go out to the nearest road and stop 3 cars and find 2 people better?


NOBODY is trading for Cousins. Its a ridiculous premise. Draft a QB, let him sit and learn behind Cousins for 2 years or just under. The team is fucked with his contact in the short term. But that doesn't mean the future QB can't be drafted next Spring. 

I think you have that backwards. Let me fix it for you.Draft a QB, let Cousins sit and learn behind him for 2 years or just under.



It takes alot of money to have him sit. We can't pay him 20+ mil as a back up. We need to cut him and eat the 31 (41 total) mil or so instead of keeping him to spend 31 plus 35. His 2022 salary becomes guaranteed day 3 of next league year. The salary is 35 mil. We can't have a 35 mil back up in 2022. What we should be trying to do is get that 35 mil off the books. The 41 mil for 2021 is unavoidable so no need focusing on that. Hence why I am absolutely again any trae that involves draft picks and any future implications. Just cut him and move on on a clean slate. For good measure position yourself for a shot at one of the best qbs this draft.

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#12 · Oct 18, 3:35 PM
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Lord.....we need a new QB. Let it be Fields or Lance. 

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@"pattersaur" said:
This contract was bad the day it was signed and it gets worse every week. Sad. We can't afford to trade away a first round pick just to dump his salary, so we need to cut him and eat the money. Probably need to trade other vets to shed money just to get under the cap.

If nothing else, hopefully more people on this board will read this article, so they can stop proposing we trade Kirk away for an early pick. Never ever gonna happen.



hell i would throw in a 5th and 6th to trade him.

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#14 · Oct 18, 6:02 PM
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PICKTEAMRECORDWIN%GBSOSSTREAK
1
 
NY Jets
0-6.000--.595Lost 6
2
 
Washington
1-5.1671.0.494Lost 5
3
 
NY Giants
1-5.1671.0.534Won 1
4
 
Atlanta
1-5.1671.0.570Won 1
5
 
Jacksonville
1-5.1671.0.572Lost 5
6
 
Minnesota
1-5.1671.0.580Lost 2
7
 
Houston
  MIA 
1-5.1671.0.601Lost 1
8
 
LA Chargers
1-4.2001.5.466Lost 4

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#15 · Oct 18, 6:32 PM
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@"kmillard" said:
@"pattersaur" said:
This contract was bad the day it was signed and it gets worse every week. Sad. We can't afford to trade away a first round pick just to dump his salary, so we need to cut him and eat the money. Probably need to trade other vets to shed money just to get under the cap.

If nothing else, hopefully more people on this board will read this article, so they can stop proposing we trade Kirk away for an early pick. Never ever gonna happen.



hell i would throw in a 5th and 6th to trade him.


In a heartbeat, but no one is doing that. The article theorized it would take a first. 

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@"Vanguard83" said:
PICKTEAMRECORDWIN%GBSOS
STREAK
1
 
NY Jets
0-6.000--.595Lost 6
2
 
Washington
1-5.1671.0.494Lost 5
3
 
NY Giants
1-5.1671.0.534Won 1
4
 
Atlanta
1-5.1671.0.570Won 1
5
 
Jacksonville
1-5.1671.0.572Lost 5
6
 
Minnesota
1-5.1671.0.580Lost 2
7
 
Houston
  MIA 
1-5.1671.0.601Lost 1
8
 
LA Chargers
1-4.2001.5.466Lost 4
upside is three of those teams won't take a qb
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@"pattersaur" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"pattersaur" said:
This contract was bad the day it was signed and it gets worse every week. Sad. We can't afford to trade away a first round pick just to dump his salary, so we need to cut him and eat the money. Probably need to trade other vets to shed money just to get under the cap.

If nothing else, hopefully more people on this board will read this article, so they can stop proposing we trade Kirk away for an early pick. Never ever gonna happen.



hell i would throw in a 5th and 6th to trade him.


In a heartbeat, but no one is doing that. The article theorized it would take a first. 


ok, i understood as vikings getting a 1st for cousins, i have heard that as well and is a total fantasy

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@"kmillard" said:
@"pattersaur" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"pattersaur" said:
This contract was bad the day it was signed and it gets worse every week. Sad. We can't afford to trade away a first round pick just to dump his salary, so we need to cut him and eat the money. Probably need to trade other vets to shed money just to get under the cap.

If nothing else, hopefully more people on this board will read this article, so they can stop proposing we trade Kirk away for an early pick. Never ever gonna happen.



hell i would throw in a 5th and 6th to trade him.


In a heartbeat, but no one is doing that. The article theorized it would take a first. 


ok, i understood as vikings getting a 1st for cousins, i have heard that as well and is a total fantasy


No the Vikings also have to give up a first to waterdown the terrible contract

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So somehow, Cousins and his agent were able to put the risk of failure on the Vikings, instead of Cousins, with these contracts. Who ever is responsible for this situation should be fired tomorrow.
A performance based contract is the only way to go in the NFL. If you want a guarantee against injury, buy an insurance policy!
The Wilfs are considered by many to be great owners, because they have spent a lot of money on facilities and were able to build a new stadium largely financed by others. But their football decisions have often been baffling. 
They seem to have painted themselves into the corner right now. It will be interesting to see how they deal with their present situation.

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#20 · Oct 18, 7:07 PM
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No way anyone is trading a first round pick for Kirk. I'd be happy if we got a 3rd rounder for him. No one wants to take on that contract, especially with his stats this year. This is a tough one to swallow and we will most likely be paying someone a crap ton of money to ride the pine next year

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