Reiff approached about pay cut

I'd much rather see him restructure here than to see the Vikings cut him. Hopefully they can work something out.

Might be gone:
https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/1300503889079349248?s=20

@"Kmerry82" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said: If he does get cut, I wonder if that frees up enough space to revisit contract talks with Cook.

My best guess is they are willing to let Cook go.  To me we went with Yannick with the remaining dollars available and plan to move forward signing him after this season.  I honestly think this is the best plan.  You generally need at least $5 million to go into a season with.   Could see a guard deal pop up yet.  Essentially this is what the deal is: 

We get:
Ngakoue
Draft Pick 2022 (for Cook) - likely a 3rd

We give up
-ability to sign Cook
2nd (2021)  - then a 3rd, 4th or 5th  in 2022 (in a draft that be very questionable

Since Reiff would be a post June 1 cut, that $11 million we'd get back would essentially put the team back at where they were cap wise prior to the trade. I could see Rick looking at that with eyes wide open.

At practice now, no Reiff. O'Neill at LT, Rashod Hill at RT with the first team. Keep in mind, Hill was taking a vet day yesterday when Udoh got his run at RT with the ones so this will probably be the starters for game 1 if Reiff is gone. 

@"StickyBun" said: At practice now, no Reiff. O'Neill at LT, Rashod Hill at RT with the first team. Keep in mind, Hill was taking a vet day yesterday when Udoh got his run at RT with the ones so this will probably be the starters for game 1 if Reiff is gone. 

What could possibly go wrong with this plan?  Glad we’ve never had OLine trouble before and
that we feel confident in all the other players on the line.

I hope they really like someone rather than just trying to
cut costs to fit in Yannick.  I trust our
D to make due with less talent so much more than I trust our offense.

If we miss the playoffs on the back of a broken OLine after
cutting our 2nd and 3rd best linemen and plugging in 3
nobodies … I feel like that would burn through all the rest of my good will and
might get me off sports for good.

While I don't like the idea of cutting Reiff, there is logic to it. The Vikings would still have depth at OT with O'Neill, Hill, Udoh, & Cleveland. Reiff has been solid, but not great, & paying LT money for a solid guard is hard to justify. I do worry about depth and injuries & the biggest concern that I have is whether both guard spots can solidify. If they do, then the move is OK, but if the guards struggle like they could, then cutting Reiff may look like a dumb move. I do feel this would have happened regardless of Ngakoue, but the trade forced the issue.

I am totally taking a wait and see approach on the OL. No expectations whatsoever because of the continued fumbling around to get a group together that will actually work.

Its a calculated risk to get a guy like Ngakoue who is a rare playmaker to acquire. Griffen's departure left a hole and Z knows he needs pressure to help out his young secondary. Mike Tice was quoted last week as saying he didn't think Reiff is a NFL LT and I totally agree. The Lions moved him to RT and then let him go. Hell, the Vikings tried hard to get Trent Williams so lets not cry any tears for Riley Reiff potentially being cut. But having said that its still risky: its a big change just before the season starts. Its disruptive potentially to some aspect. I'm not trying to say it will be a seamless transition. But the team isn't getting rid of Gary Zimmerman in his prime here.

I mean the franchise is trying to take the next step, not maintain status quo. The NFC is tough. You either are getting better or getting worse. I applaud the effort.

This season is going to be such a crapshoot anyhow, with the crazy off season and all. I think it might be the perfect time to cut Reiff loose, move O'Neill to LT and see what transpires. Will either be a good move or just another year of an inept OL.

@"StickyBun" said: Its a calculated risk to get a guy like Ngakoue who is a rare playmaker to acquire. Griffen's departure left a hole and Z knows he needs pressure to help out his young secondary. Mike Tice was quoted last week as saying he didn't think Reiff is a NFL LT and I totally agree. The Lions moved him to RT and then let him go. Hell, the Vikings tried hard to get Trent Williams so lets not cry any tears for Riley Reiff potentially being cut. But having said that its still risky: its a big change just before the season starts. Its disruptive potentially to some aspect. I'm not trying to say it will be a seamless transition. But the team isn't getting rid of Gary Zimmerman in his prime here.

I mean the franchise is trying to take the next step, not maintain status quo. The NFC is tough. You either are getting better or getting worse. I applaud the effort.

To a Super Bowl roster, they added Trent Williams to their line, Brandon Auyuk to go with Deebo Samuel, Javon Kinlaw to go with Nick Bosa, and Jordan Reed to pair with George Kittle. Jesus. If Reed stays healthy, how do you stop that? Not to mention they get Jalen Hurd and Jerrick McKinnon back. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Its a calculated risk to get a guy like Ngakoue who is a rare playmaker to acquire. Griffen's departure left a hole and Z knows he needs pressure to help out his young secondary. Mike Tice was quoted last week as saying he didn't think Reiff is a NFL LT and I totally agree. The Lions moved him to RT and then let him go. Hell, the Vikings tried hard to get Trent Williams so lets not cry any tears for Riley Reiff potentially being cut. But having said that its still risky: its a big change just before the season starts. Its disruptive potentially to some aspect. I'm not trying to say it will be a seamless transition. But the team isn't getting rid of Gary Zimmerman in his prime here.

I mean the franchise is trying to take the next step, not maintain status quo. The NFC is tough. You either are getting better or getting worse. I applaud the effort.

Yes, as I was painfully reminded of when I looked over the depth chart of the team who knocked us out of the playoffs.

To a Super Bowl roster, they added Trent Williams to their line, Brandon Auyuk to go with Deebo Samuel, Javon Kinlaw to go with Nick Bosa, and Jordan Reed to pair with George Kittle. Jesus. If Reed stays healthy, how do you stop that? Not to mention they get Jalen Hurd and Jerrick McKinnon back. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Its a calculated risk to get a guy like Ngakoue who is a rare playmaker to acquire. Griffen's departure left a hole and Z knows he needs pressure to help out his young secondary. Mike Tice was quoted last week as saying he didn't think Reiff is a NFL LT and I totally agree. The Lions moved him to RT and then let him go. Hell, the Vikings tried hard to get Trent Williams so lets not cry any tears for Riley Reiff potentially being cut. But having said that its still risky: its a big change just before the season starts. Its disruptive potentially to some aspect. I'm not trying to say it will be a seamless transition. But the team isn't getting rid of Gary Zimmerman in his prime here.

I mean the franchise is trying to take the next step, not maintain status quo. The NFC is tough. You either are getting better or getting worse. I applaud the effort.

Yes, as I was painfully reminded of when I looked over the depth chart of the team who knocked us out of the playoffs.

To a Super Bowl roster, they added Trent Williams to their line, Brandon Auyuk to go with Deebo Samuel, Javon Kinlaw to go with Nick Bosa, and Jordan Reed to pair with George Kittle. Jesus. If Reed stays healthy, how do you stop that? Not to mention they get Jalen Hurd and Jerrick McKinnon back. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Its a calculated risk to get a guy like Ngakoue who is a rare playmaker to acquire. Griffen's departure left a hole and Z knows he needs pressure to help out his young secondary. Mike Tice was quoted last week as saying he didn't think Reiff is a NFL LT and I totally agree. The Lions moved him to RT and then let him go. Hell, the Vikings tried hard to get Trent Williams so lets not cry any tears for Riley Reiff potentially being cut. But having said that its still risky: its a big change just before the season starts. Its disruptive potentially to some aspect. I'm not trying to say it will be a seamless transition. But the team isn't getting rid of Gary Zimmerman in his prime here.

I mean the franchise is trying to take the next step, not maintain status quo. The NFC is tough. You either are getting better or getting worse. I applaud the effort.

Yes, as I was painfully reminded of when I looked over the depth chart of the team who knocked us out of the playoffs.

To a Super Bowl roster, they added Trent Williams to their line, Brandon Auyuk to go with Deebo Samuel, Javon Kinlaw to go with Nick Bosa, and Jordan Reed to pair with George Kittle. Jesus. If Reed stays healthy, how do you stop that? Not to mention they get Jalen Hurd and Jerrick McKinnon back. 

They are loaded and with a big contract QB too...

Hats off to the 49'ers. I'd root for them before Seattle, GB or LA.

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Its a calculated risk to get a guy like Ngakoue who is a rare playmaker to acquire. Griffen's departure left a hole and Z knows he needs pressure to help out his young secondary. Mike Tice was quoted last week as saying he didn't think Reiff is a NFL LT and I totally agree. The Lions moved him to RT and then let him go. Hell, the Vikings tried hard to get Trent Williams so lets not cry any tears for Riley Reiff potentially being cut. But having said that its still risky: its a big change just before the season starts. Its disruptive potentially to some aspect. I'm not trying to say it will be a seamless transition. But the team isn't getting rid of Gary Zimmerman in his prime here.

I mean the franchise is trying to take the next step, not maintain status quo. The NFC is tough. You either are getting better or getting worse. I applaud the effort.

Yes, as I was painfully reminded of when I looked over the depth chart of the team who knocked us out of the playoffs.

To a Super Bowl roster, they added Trent Williams to their line, Brandon Auyuk to go with Deebo Samuel, Javon Kinlaw to go with Nick Bosa, and Jordan Reed to pair with George Kittle. Jesus. If Reed stays healthy, how do you stop that? Not to mention they get Jalen Hurd and Jerrick McKinnon back. 

Pray half of them get COVID during the playoffs?

@"medaille" said: What could possibly go wrong with this plan?  Glad we’ve never had OLine trouble before and that we feel confident in all the other players on the line.

What could go wrong?... we could miss watching Reiff get run over in pass pro. :#

If we miss the playoffs on the back of a broken OLine after cutting our 2nd and 3rd best linemen and plugging in 3 nobodies … I feel like that would burn through all the rest of my good will and might get me off sports for good.

A broken oline is sort of a permanent condition around here. I see losing Reiff and letting young, hungry guys play as addition by subtraction and finally getting a move on towards the future. Reiff has been an expensive band-aid since he was signed and I won't miss him.   I've been rooting for them to cut him and let the youth movement get in gear.   

And frankly I don't care if they "miss the playoffs because omg Reilly Reiff" lol .  The team needs to stop the short-sighted thinking at oline (and with aging, underperforming vets in general) and build a line that can compete for real instead of with band-aids, scrubs, guys out of position, and guys who have no business being on the field.

I don't get this the 'season is in the toilet' angst if Reiff is cut. More fan overreaction. Or I'll say IMO. 

Mike Zimmer just now on Riley Reiff: 'We'll just have to wait and see today, now won't we?'

LMAO. Z.....

Wolfson just said they'll know by midday his answer. Not at TCO so far. 

Crunched numbers, did research. Riley Reiff shouldn't be in #Eagles convo. He's not a true LT, been playing out of position. Plus, $10.9 million is higher than what Jason Peters wants. Pay Peters or roll with Matt Pryor or Jack Driscoll.

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