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He sucks. 

Crazy, but yeah that makes sense.  And for those that think Zimmer needs to go, can we just realize the turmoil he has navigated in the QB department.

@"purplefaithful" said: Kirk Cousins is the first Vikings QB since Culpepper (2000-2004) that has started 3 seasons in a row?

Crazy huh?

Pretty incredible and sad fact. 

@"purplefaithful" said: Kirk Cousins is the first Vikings QB since Culpepper (2000-2004) that has started 3 seasons in a row?

Crazy huh?

Wait - 2018, 2019...that makes 2 seasons, so...?
Oh - you're making an ASSUMPTION. I'll leave it to someone else to post the Samuel Jackson gif. Sure hope you haven't jinxed Cousins into a season-ending injury prior to week 1.
It's a good observation, though. I actually remember that when he signed here, a fair number of people literally said, "If he just gives us stability at the QB position it's a success." Of course many of us (guilty right here) escalated our expectations up to All-Pro and Super Bowl.

Like Jor-El said 2018 and 2019 = 2 seasons.

Culpepper was 2000-2004, Not hard to figure out why in the last 15 years,the  Vikes Haven't been to and won a Superbowl.

Unless you want to consider 2nd rounder Tarvaris Jackson a QB drafted to be a franchise QB (I wouldn't), the Vikings have only selected three franchise QBs since Tommy Kramer in 1977. 

Daunte Culpepper - career cut short by knee injury
Christian Ponder - bust
Teddy Bridgewater - career threatening knee injury

Seems hard to believe the Vikings could go 43 years and pick only 3 1st round QBs, but Vikings did fill a lot of that time with late rounders that turned out well in Brad Johnson and Wade Wilson, and a LOT of trades and/or free agents: Gannon, Cunningham, Favre, Moon, Salisbury, George...

@"MaroonBells" said: Unless you want to consider 2nd rounder Tarvaris Jackson a QB drafted to be a franchise QB (I wouldn't), the Vikings have only selected three franchise QBs since Tommy Kramer in 1977. 

Daunte Culpepper - career cut short by knee injury
Christian Ponder - bust
Teddy Bridgewater - career threatening knee injury

Seems hard to believe the Vikings could go 43 years and pick only 3 1st round QBs, but Vikings did fill a lot of that time with late rounders that turned out well in Brad Johnson and Wade Wilson, and a LOT of trades and/or free agents: Gannon, Cunningham, Favre, Moon, Salisbury, George...

I’ve always felt, our curse for not getting better QB’s in the first round aka top of the round has been due to the fact that we have had some goddamn great individual players throughout our history that keep us competitive never allowing us to truly suck.  Carter, McDaniel, Randle, Doleman, Peterson.  We have also had good coaches who turned good rosters into playoff rosters.  

With this, we have always been searching for a franchise QB and end up with guys on the tail off their careers looking to join at talented team.

It's been pretty rare we're drafting in top 10 over the history of the franchise. That's actually not a bad thing.

But man, if there was a guy there they loved over all this time? They had ample opportunities to get one. 

QB has been the achilles heel for the Vikings for a long time, which is why I just dont understand the KC dislike. The  streak that runs through so many fans - or at least vocal fans. 

Its like a hungry, destitute person turning down a really nice dinner.

@"purplefaithful" said: It's been pretty rare we're drafting in top 10 over the history of the franchise. That's actually not a bad thing.

But man, if there was a guy there they loved over all this time? They had ample opportunities to get one. 

QB has been the achilles heel for the Vikings for a long time, which is why I just dont understand the KC dislike. The  streak that runs through so many fans - or at least vocal fans. 

Its like a hungry, destitute person turning down a really nice dinner.

in this day and age,  its not just having a quality QB,  its about having that quality QB before he wants to get paid like one.  KC is a good QB and could certainly luck into a SB,  but he is not  Brady or Rogers that has the skill to take a bunch of B level and lower guys to the promised land.  IMO the recipe for success is having a good base of top tier players at other positions and then getting lucky and adding that high quality QB like KC before his salary forces you to make cuts at other key positions.... oh and having it all come together with the right coaches and systems in place.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: It's been pretty rare we're drafting in top 10 over the history of the franchise. That's actually not a bad thing.

But man, if there was a guy there they loved over all this time? They had ample opportunities to get one. 

QB has been the achilles heel for the Vikings for a long time, which is why I just dont understand the KC dislike. The  streak that runs through so many fans - or at least vocal fans. 

Its like a hungry, destitute person turning down a really nice dinner.

in this day and age,  its not just having a quality QB,  its about having that quality QB before he wants to get paid like one.  KC is a good QB and could certainly luck into a SB,  but he is not  Brady or Rogers that has the skill to take a bunch of B level and lower guys to the promised land.  IMO the recipe for success if having a good base of top tier players at other positions and then getting lucky and adding that high quality QB like KC before his salary forces you to make cuts at other key positions.... oh and having it all come together with the right coaches and systems in place.

Remember when there was a dearth of good QB's in the league? And the ones coming out of college were just plain s hit?

Now look at it...

I wonder if this is just a function of the pro and college games coming together more over time?

@"purplefaithful" said: Remember when there was a dearth of good QB's in the league? And the ones coming out of college were just plain s hit?

Now look at it...

I wonder if this is just a function of the pro and college games coming together more over time?

remember when young talent was given a year or two to learn the pro game before they were thrown to the wolves and not summarily dismissed as busts when they struggled a bit?

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Remember when there was a dearth of good QB's in the league? And the ones coming out of college were just plain s hit?

Now look at it...

I wonder if this is just a function of the pro and college games coming together more over time?

remember when young talent was given a year or two to learn the pro game before they were thrown to the wolves and not summarily dismissed as busts when they struggled a bit?

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Remember when there was a dearth of good QB's in the league? And the ones coming out of college were just plain s hit?

Now look at it...

I wonder if this is just a function of the pro and college games coming together more over time?

remember when young talent was given a year or two to learn the pro game before they were thrown to the wolves and not summarily dismissed as busts when they struggled a bit?

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