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I Love Our Picks, So Why Aren't I Happy? UPDATE- Am Happy

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... Because GB got Love. That's why. That's the answer.
I'm over the moon with the Jefferson pick (can't believe PHI took Reagor!) and I like Gladney's attitude and game, but GB getting Love is a total buzzkill. I had hoped they were dense enough to think, for at least another year, that 2012 Rodgers is walking through that door.
I'm of the belief that AR is about league average at this point. He's had an amazing career, but his past few seasons he's looked unremarkable-- borderline washed. GB obviously sees it too, hence the trade up and the Love pick.
I hate to say it, but I can't help but feel that this is what the Vikings should have done. Maybe we still will take a QB with Hurts, Fromm, etc... but history says we won't. Having a guy waiting in the wings to either push the starter to play better or to push the starter off the team is a good strategy. It's not a strategy my favorite team employs, however. It's annoying.
Cost controlled starting QBs are the ultimate cheat code if you can find one. I wish the Vikings at least attempted to look.

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#1 · Apr 23, 11:06 PM
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@"pumpf" said: Green Bay is constantly "looking" for QBs in early rounds. And what has it gotten them?  Rodgers is different because some projected him to be the overall #1.  But, yes, they still took a QB when they didn't need one.  And after 30 years of HOF quarterback play, they have 2 trophies to show for it.  Doesn't seem like a great plan to me.
2 trophies in 30 years is twice as good as an average team.
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#22 · Apr 24, 9:32 AM
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@"BarrNone55" said: @pattersaur Sorry dude, thought the op was from Suncoast.

But still...

 "Hey kids, did you enjoy your presents? Good. Grandma died last night"


Haha yeah I get it. I am happy. And I'm more focused on the positives today. It's just annoying to see the rich neighbor kid get the toy I wanted. But hey, stuff like this builds character!
Lotta good DL guys out there and a couple strong OL prospects if MIN moves up. Tonight will be fun.

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#23 · Apr 24, 9:39 AM
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I wasn't surprised by the pick because they were interested in Lock last year, also because they plan ahead. It is what it is. Time will tell whether or not it works. I am happy with the Vikings picks. Way to go Philly lol.

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Love is purely a projection pick whereas Rodgers was a top 10 prospect who inexplicably fell. 
When I watched Love I saw Blake Bortles all over again. He’s a big guy, big arm, athletic and looks the part. However, his actual play leaves a lot to be desired. His accuracy can be bizarrely inconsistent. He’ll make a great throw one minute and a “what the hell was he looking at” the next. Many have said his poor play this year was due to losing so many players last year. There’s probably some merit to this, but it doesn’t explain the poor decision making which resulted in 17 interceptions.  
From a personal perspective, I really like Love. I like his personality and his competitive drive. He seems like a really great kid to me. He just has a long way to go. He’s going to an ideal situation. The Vikings would have been an ideal situation. He would have made a solid 2nd round pick for someone, but the risk never would have justified a 1st rounder in my opinion. 
My point is, this is not the Packers drafting Aaron Rodger late in the first when it was long past a no brainer. This is a fairly high risk pick based solely on potential and 2018 performance. 

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i think this  blows up on packers huge.just imagine  rodgers answering questions about love and this pick a  few  thousand times  . with  rodgers thin skin it will not sit well .get the popcorn out.i think  love  projects  to kizer kid they had last year

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#28 · Apr 24, 12:07 PM
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Holly crap:

Go to youtube and watch Jordon Love highlights.  Then type in Jordon Love interceptions.  This guy is never going to be a starting NFL QB - book it danno.

On his "highlight" video of about 25 throws there about 4 or 5 NFL throws.  Then about 5 or 6 where the WR bails him out.  3 or 4 underthrows.  4 or 5 completed becuase CB play was very subpar based on competition level.  He lifts his back foot a lot and also swings his back foot or wide stance/fade backs on many others - basically bad form.  Lastly, his OL gave him rediculous time so again they must have been a pretty good OL for the competition level.

Then watch the interceptions low lights which I think he threw more of those then TD's or about the same (not looking up).  His throws to the outside are late and I think I saw 4 of those throws returned for TD's.  He locks onto his target on many of the Int's and underthrows on a few others.  

I have no idea why this guy would be a pick in the first 5 rounds.  He has prototypical size and a strong arm if his mechanics are corrected.  But then he also needs work on reading a defense, accuracy, etc  basically everything!!!  

Also, for a guy who is a great athlete I don't see any impressive scrambling or run plays.

I am thrilled the Packers drafted him at all nevermind move up in the 1st round - really funny.  Then read the Packer fan comments under the Interception video it will make your day.

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#29 · Apr 24, 12:16 PM
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Love this pick---Brett Hundley 2.0

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#30 · Apr 24, 12:31 PM
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@"Havoc1649" said: Love is purely a projection pick whereas Rodgers was a top 10 prospect who inexplicably fell. 
This.  And in addition, Rodgers simply fell to the Packers.  For Love, they gave up a 4th to move up.   A small, perverse corner of my mind wants us to take another WR at 58 just to cockblock GB and send Rodgers right over the edge :p
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#31 · Apr 24, 2:10 PM
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Fun to read the anger and horror in this twitter thread...

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#32 · Apr 25, 5:46 AM
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Worth its own post...

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#33 · Apr 25, 5:48 AM
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Doesn't feel at all the same to me.
For one thing. Farve was just starting his, I'm getting ready to retire talk when they drafted Rodgers.
Another thing very different was as Rodgers was a top 5 projection. So as he  fell and when they took him I was like...oh f***. This time was more like WTF...lol.

The only similar feeling is at least they DO take a 1st rd QB BEFORE they need one. What a novel idea. 

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#34 · Apr 25, 6:28 AM
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@"RS Express" said:
@"Havoc1649" said: Love is purely a projection pick whereas Rodgers was a top 10 prospect who inexplicably fell. 
This.  And in addition, Rodgers simply fell to the Packers.  For Love, they gave up a 4th to move up.   A small, perverse corner of my mind wants us to take another WR at 58 just to cockblock GB and send Rodgers right over the edge :p
It appears that they have done a great job of the self-cockblock...
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#35 · Apr 25, 7:03 AM
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Ha!! 

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#36 · Apr 25, 8:21 AM
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top it off with a te projected as a sixth round project in the 3rd

priceless

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#37 · Apr 25, 4:24 PM
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@"pumpf" said: Green Bay is constantly "looking" for QBs in early rounds. And what has it gotten them?  Rodgers is different because some projected him to be the overall #1.  But, yes, they still took a QB when they didn't need one.  And after 30 years of HOF quarterback play, they have 2 trophies to show for it.  Doesn't seem like a great plan to me.
I mean they have two to out none so.....its working better then our change QB every year stratagey. 
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#39 · Apr 25, 9:38 PM
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@"AGRforever" said:
@"pumpf" said: Green Bay is constantly "looking" for QBs in early rounds. And what has it gotten them?  Rodgers is different because some projected him to be the overall #1.  But, yes, they still took a QB when they didn't need one.  And after 30 years of HOF quarterback play, they have 2 trophies to show for it.  Doesn't seem like a great plan to me.
I mean they have two to out none so.....its working better then our change QB every year stratagey. 

They won with Favre (whom they didn't draft)... and then they won one more.  During that time (since 2007), they only drafted a QB in the first 3 rounds once (Brohm).  So it's not like they have done anything different than most other teams.  That ONE TIME they had a potential #1 pick drop to them... and they took him.  Considering the context (Favre flirting with retirement), it's not like they have a "pattern" of trying to grab a top-flight QB every year.  So I'm really failing to see how anyone can defend what they did this year.  Anyone who thinks that the Packers are playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers... is going to have to explain it to me.

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#40 · Apr 25, 9:40 PM
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I love our draft and don't want to beat a dead horse cuz it's time for this thread to fade quietly into the night, but I would nudge some of you to look around the league at what other top teams are doing.
Chiefs- took Mahomes when they had a pretty solid Alex Smith
Ravens- took Lamar Jackson when they had a washed up Joe Flacco (ok bad example)
Saints- signed Teddy last year, Jameis this year

Packers- Traded for Kizer, now drafted J Love
Eagles- Hung on to Foles, now got Hurts

Patriots- Garapollo, Brissett, and now might be tanking for Lawrence, or will sign Newton

What do these teams have in common? They're good.
Green Bay had a weird, way-too-forward-thinking draft this year. I get that. It's funny. But that doesn't mean having a backup QB who can actually maybe kinda sorta play or has some aspirations to be more than a clipboard holder someday is a bad thing. A cost controlled rookie? Even better! If the Vikings don't want to spend capital to draft a franchise guy, they should at least be hunting in the middle rounds for someone who's better than Mannion. And who knows, they might actually stumble onto a franchise guy.
I'll put a pin in this chatter until next offseason! For now it's onto 2020 with what we got.

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