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Anyone else want to get on the Jalen Hurts train?

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The guy could sit behind Cousins for 2 full seasons easily, learning and gaining confidence. He's got the build, mobility and pocket awareness you want in today's NFL. He needs development, but he's got the upside to be a starter in the NFL also. He's 21 years old, no rush and only time to improve. Outstanding leader and guts.

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#1 · Apr 23, 8:38 AM
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@"StickyBun" said: The guy could sit behind Cousins for 2 full seasons easily, learning and gaining confidence. He's got the build, mobility and pocket awareness you want in today's NFL. He needs development, but he's got the upside to be a starter in the NFL also. He's 21 years old, no rush and only time to improve. Outstanding leader and guts.
I agree with everything you said, including the 2 full years part. The accuracy needs work. Keeping his eyes downfield instead of on the pass rush is also a problem. But he literally has every intangible you want in a Leader.

The question is how high does he go? Can Minnesota afford to take him in the 2nd with all the holes? I just am not sure he makes it to Minnesota's 3rd. Trader Rick might need to move up and down to get enough capital to get Hurts and address glaring needs. 

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@"FSUVike" said:
@"StickyBun" said: The guy could sit behind Cousins for 2 full seasons easily, learning and gaining confidence. He's got the build, mobility and pocket awareness you want in today's NFL. He needs development, but he's got the upside to be a starter in the NFL also. He's 21 years old, no rush and only time to improve. Outstanding leader and guts.
The question is how high does he go? Can Minnesota afford to take him in the 2nd with all the holes? I just am not sure he makes it to Minnesota's 3rd. Trader Rick might need to move up and down to get enough capital to get Hurts and address glaring needs. 
That is exactly the right concern. I don't think he makes it to Minnesota's 3rd, either. It sucks that way. But it would be incredibly bold for the Vikings to pull the trigger, I just think it's doubtful. Lots of needs on this team makes the odds of it lower for sure.  :/
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I'm comfortable with spending our comp pick, but I'll take Cole McDonald in the sixth...he's a project but has proven to be coachable...imo, best value for landing the QB of the future...

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@"BarrNone55" said: I'm comfortable with spending our comp pick, but I'll take Cole McDonald in the sixth...he's a project but has proven to be coachable...imo, best value for landing the QB of the future...
Cole is on some sleeper lists for sure. Might be interesting. To me, McDonald is much like Browning. This overview kind of aligns with most I've seen:

OverviewNext up from the pass-happy Hawaii offense with good size and impressive touchdown production over the last two seasons as a starter. While he can read defenses and throw with touch, he doesn't have the timing or ball placement to make up for his weak arm. He needs to work to a condensed field as a pro, but even then, jumpy cornerbacks could feast since he struggles to work with consistent anticipation to limit contested throws. He's a decent athlete, but it's not enough to offset his throwing deficiencies.

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if we could get a late 2nd or early 3rd for Harris,  I am totally good with taking Hurts there.  I am fine with taking Love in the first and letting him sit as well.

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I wouldn't take a QB before the 6th round.

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: I'm comfortable with spending our comp pick, but I'll take Cole McDonald in the sixth...he's a project but has proven to be coachable...imo, best value for landing the QB of the future...
Cole is on some sleeper lists for sure. Might be interesting. To me, McDonald is much like Browning. This overview kind of aligns with most I've seen:

OverviewNext up from the pass-happy Hawaii offense with good size and impressive touchdown production over the last two seasons as a starter. While he can read defenses and throw with touch, he doesn't have the timing or ball placement to make up for his weak arm. He needs to work to a condensed field as a pro, but even then, jumpy cornerbacks could feast since he struggles to work with consistent anticipation to limit contested throws. He's a decent athlete, but it's not enough to offset his throwing deficiencies.



Depending on who you read, he's got a cannon...much like Gordon...testing numbers say he's better than decent athletically...he is 6-4 and 230ish, so much bigger than Browning...

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I have been high on Hurts all off-season.  He reminds me more of Dak than Wilson (who were both underrated by the media AND NFL teams), but I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a legitimate starting NFL QB in two years if he goes to the right team.  Unfortunately, I don't think Minnesota will have the opportunity to draft him because he'll probably go earlier than the Vikings will consider taking a QB.

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Hurts would be fine with me at some point. I like Nate Stanley out of Iowa late. HE has all the tools, just needs some marinating.

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Said before combine he wouldn’t get past 2nd round. If he makes it to 58, which I highly doubt, you have to take him. Oline and Dline with the 2 firsts. 58 89 105 is corner, WR, nickel is a dream value draft

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I see little chance Hurts makes it to our 3rd round and won’t be at all surprised if he goes early in the 2nd. The guy is a gamer, pure and simple. 
In the right situation, I think Hurts could be a great pro. The Vikings would be an ideal situation for him. He’d have a very good starter to learn from and take his time developing his passing game. He’s got the scrambling/athletic talent part down, just needs to raise the bar throwing. 
If the Vikings believe he could be great in a couple of years, take him whenever. When it comes to QB’s, I’m pretty easy going if the team takes a shot on grabbing a guy early. I’d take him in the 2nd (if I thought he’s the guy) and not think twice about it.

My biggest issue with Hurts is my gut says take him at #22. Haha

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@"Havoc1649" said: I see little chance Hurts makes it to our 3rd round and won’t be at all surprised if he goes early in the 2nd. The guy is a gamer, pure and simple. 
In the right situation, I think Hurts could be a great pro. The Vikings would be an ideal situation for him. He’d have a very good starter to learn from and take his time developing his passing game. He’s got the scrambling/athletic talent part down, just needs to raise the bar throwing.  If the Vikings believe he could be great in a couple of years, take him whenever. When it comes to QB’s, I’m pretty easy going if the team takes a shot on grabbing a guy early. I’d take him in the 2nd (if I thought he’s the guy) and not think twice about it.

My biggest issue with Hurts is my gut says take him at #22. Haha



Can you imagine Hurts with 2 years to learn this O?  Its perfect scheme to narrow the reads on a young QB as he works on his progressions

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@"Bullazin" said:
@"Havoc1649" said: I see little chance Hurts makes it to our 3rd round and won’t be at all surprised if he goes early in the 2nd. The guy is a gamer, pure and simple. 
In the right situation, I think Hurts could be a great pro. The Vikings would be an ideal situation for him. He’d have a very good starter to learn from and take his time developing his passing game. He’s got the scrambling/athletic talent part down, just needs to raise the bar throwing.  If the Vikings believe he could be great in a couple of years, take him whenever. When it comes to QB’s, I’m pretty easy going if the team takes a shot on grabbing a guy early. I’d take him in the 2nd (if I thought he’s the guy) and not think twice about it.

My biggest issue with Hurts is my gut says take him at #22. Haha



Can you imagine Hurts with 2 years to learn this O?  Its perfect scheme to narrow the reads on a young QB as he works on his progressions


That’s just it. He’s not close to ready for the NFL, but given time it could get interesting. I didn’t write anything up on the guy because watching tape drove me crazy. Not always his play, but often the offense and play calling were maddening. He’d start to get a passing rhythm going and it would be straight draw plays the next 3 calls. When he can get into a normal QB drop back mode, his accuracy is actually pretty good. The biggest Thing about the guy that is hard to ignore though, he simply wins games. Watching him grind against Baylor this year when he was playing like garbage showed me the type of mental make up he has. It’s hard to find that kind of never say die attitude.

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@"Wetlander" said: I have been high on Hurts all off-season.  He reminds me more of Dak than Wilson (who were both underrated by the media AND NFL teams), but I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a legitimate starting NFL QB in two years if he goes to the right team.  Unfortunately, I don't think Minnesota will have the opportunity to draft him because he'll probably go earlier than the Vikings will consider taking a QB.


Not picking him early enough is different than not having the opportunity to pick him

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Hurts (IMHO), may be the best QB in the draft. I'm on that train. 

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Interested to see where he goes, tonight should be the night.

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@"StickyBun" said: Interested to see where he goes, tonight should be the night.
I have a weird feeling that the Patriots are targeting him and that's why they traded back with the Chargers.
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Ran a SIM this morning that had Eason well into the third...

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@"Wetlander" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Interested to see where he goes, tonight should be the night.
I have a weird feeling that the Patriots are targeting him and that's why they traded back with the Chargers.
Patriots,  Saints,  Indy all could use him and will likely be on him in the 2nd IMO.
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Also like Eason. I've seen him grow as a QB. He's gotten much bigger. He looks like a prototypical pro style QB and his dad was former pro (Patriots). Nice kid too.

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