Panthers Reset RB Market

ugh...

A profoundly stupid contract...franchise tag value for RBs was $10.2 million...

Bye, Dalvin...

I like Cook, but I don't think he's worth that money (especially for a RB). CMC is a top 3 back imo, also.

the availability of RBs coupled with the lack of huge drop off from the best to the next tier down has me questioning paying any of them over about 9 million a year.

Cook under contract for 1 more year
Mattison for 3
Boone is a RFA in 2021

First off, Cook isn't as good as McCaffrey.  He has the potential to be, but he just isn't as of yet.  That said, someone will pay Cook too much.  That McCaffrey contract is too much for any RB.  I'd consider tagging him for a one year rental, but I can't commit to something close to that large.  $8M feels tolerable to me.  If we get to $10M, I'd rather just spend that money elsewhere.

Dont throw tomatoes and you can call me crazy. But with the cap increasing as it will, I think they (The Vikings) would go up to 12mm with incentives. I'm sure Dalvin is smiling today, no doubt. 

@"purplefaithful" said: Dont throw tomatoes and you can call me crazy. But with the cap increasing as it will, I think they (The Vikings) would go up to 12mm with incentives. I'm sure Dalvin is smiling today, no doubt. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Dont throw tomatoes and you can call me crazy. But with the cap increasing as it will, I think they (The Vikings) would go up to 12mm with incentives. I'm sure Dalvin is smiling today, no doubt. 

will it?  what will all this virus stuff do to the profitability of the league for a year or two?  I wouldnt be over paying anybody based on the cap going up until we know how this thing resets the leagues revenues.

Cook is nowhere close to CMC.

CMC played over 90% of the snaps with over 100+ catches the last two yrs. He had 70% snaps and 80 catches his first y.

 Cook has not played over 53% of the snaps ever and had his 53 catches last yr which were his most.

I mean, it is not even close.

give Cookie 24 mil guaranteed for 3 years . if thats not good then play out your rook deal and lets see how Mattison fares this year

I can't imagine this deal will be all that bad once the detail come in. Like all contracts, that is what will matter. There is no way the Panthers could make this deal now unless it benefited them greatly in one of two ways. 1) the guarantees only run through 2021 (which was the case now). Or 2) They get a significant discount on his 5th year option, which I think is less likely. 

After you factor some of the signing bonus in this is likely going to be a 2.5 year deal with team options in 2023-2025. Its what the Rams attempted with Gurley.. get out of the guaranteed money while the player is still younger. Issue is you can't predict an arthritic knee. If not for that they deal he signed would have been rather beneficial long-term. 

Christian McCaffrey is two players. He’s both a RB and a WO. Cook is a great back, but he’s nowhere near CMC.

If Cook demands $16 million, I’d honestly consider trading him. Of course I don’t think anyone else would be offering up that bounty either. There’s no way the team can pay that kind of money at that position. Or even close to it realistically. I’ve gotta think Guru is right and it’s the usual type of inflated contract. 

McCaffrey has been insanely productive and most importantly, healthy.  Cook has been productive when healthy  but not at McCaffrey's level. 

  Adrian Peterson's extension in 2011 was way ahead of it's time.  

@"Geoff Nichols" said: I can't imagine this deal will be all that bad once the detail come in. Like all contracts, that is what will matter. There is no way the Panthers could make this deal now unless it benefited them greatly in one of two ways. 1) the guarantees only run through 2021 (which was the case now). Or 2) They get a significant discount on his 5th year option, which I think is less likely. 

After you factor some of the signing bonus in this is likely going to be a 2.5 year deal with team options in 2023-2025. Its what the Rams attempted with Gurley.. get out of the guaranteed money while the player is still younger. Issue is you can't predict an arthritic knee. If not for that they deal he signed would have been rather beneficial long-term. 

It comes out to be a 3 year deal with team options for 2023-2025. They also got a proration shell year in 2025 to decrease the 2023 & 2024 cap hits if they keep him. The new deal trumps his 5th year option but he gets more cash this year. But in 2021 on what would have been his 5th year option the Panthers save about $2M in cash. 

People will dispute paying RB's, but this is a very strong contract for the Panthers that adds money to McCaffrey's durable years while allowing them outs if he declines with age.