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MARLON DAVIDSON, EDGE, AUBURNMarlon Davidson was overshadowed by teammate Derrick Brown for much of the season. While Brown got most of the headlines, Davidson was a force along the line, creating pressures on the pocket and quietly recording a double-digit tackle for loss season (11.5).
Davidson, at 6-foot-3, 303 pounds, has been listed as an edge defender and brings a lot of versatility to a multiple-front defensive line. He is big and strong enough to kick inside to play a 3-technique defensive tackle and is surprisingly explosive and flexible enough to play 5-technique as a defensive end.
When you pair that with the fact that Davidson just loves football, defensive coaches will be pounding the table for him, even if it takes a late first-round pick.

With all gyms being closed, NFL Draft prospects have to find unique ways to workout. Here is client, McTelvin Agim, DT out of Arkansas, making the best of his workout situation. @So_Splash pic.twitter.com/xTczU2Z9Fc

— Nicole Lynn (@AgentNicoleLynn) April 6, 2020

Where is Gallimore projected to be drafted?  I really like the look of him, fast burst with closing speed.  Will he be there at 25?

This team’s biggest need, is strong pass rushing DT.  With Pierce next to him, single teamed with Hunter on the edge would be a match up advantage.  Fastest way to the QB is a quick DT, makes good corners look great.

Can we go CB and DT first two picks?  DE, OL, WR in rounds 2 and 3?

@"Skodin" said: Where is Gallimore projected to be drafted?  I really like the look of him, fast burst with closing speed.  Will he be there at 25?

This team’s biggest need, is strong pass rushing DT.  With Pierce next to him, single teamed with Hunter on the edge would be a match up advantage.  Fastest way to the QB is a quick DT, makes good corners look great.

Can we go CB and DT first two picks?  DE, OL, WR in rounds 2 and 3?

The general consensus with all the 3T prospects outside of Brown/Kinlaw is that they are late 1st or early 2nd grades. Some are higher on certain guys. Jeremiah is higher on Blacklock than just about anyone else is, for example. 

So the answer is Yes. But it depends on value. I'm not sure I'd pick Fulton or Terrell or Diggs at 22 or really even at 25, though everyone but me is high on Terrell. I just think the drop off from CJ Henderson to those guys is much wider than the drop off from them to guys you can get in the 3rd.

It's the same at WR. Most have a big fall off from Lamb/Jeudy/Ruggs to Justij Jefferson et al and a smaller fall off from that 2nd Tier of guys to WRs like Van Jefferson that you can probably get in the 3rd. I am personally higher on Justin Jefferson than most and would take him at 22.

It all comes down to how Minnesota stack-ranks their Board and who falls vs. who may be available in a later Round that isn't rated that much lower than a player available in a higher Round. But your scenario is very doable. 

@"Skodin" said: Where is Gallimore projected to be drafted?  I really like the look of him, fast burst with closing speed.  Will he be there at 25?

This team’s biggest need, is strong pass rushing DT.  With Pierce next to him, single teamed with Hunter on the edge would be a match up advantage.  Fastest way to the QB is a quick DT, makes good corners look great.

Can we go CB and DT first two picks?  DE, OL, WR in rounds 2 and 3?

I've seen Gallimore everywhere from 20 to 64. He ran a 4.79 at the combine, so I think those lower rankings were either done before the combine or just aren't factoring that in. 

Hard to say what the Vikings do. Trading for Trent Williams would totally change things. As would trading Anthony Harris. The only thing I can say with any kind of certainty is that CB and WR will very likely be two of the first three picks, and that the Vikings will be picking two WRs and two safeties.

@"BarrNone55" said:

• JUSTIN MADUBUIKEDL, TEXAS A&M AGGIES

  Draft Wire's Justin Melo passes along that Texas A&M DT Justin Madubuike took video meetings with the Saints, Vikings and Bengals.Madubuike (6'3/293) earlier managed to sneak in a formal visit with the Titans, prior to face-to-face meetings being put on hold. Strong and quick, the Texas A&M lineman is still something of a work-in-progress as a pass-rusher. NFL Media's Lance Zierlein comps the potential Day 2 prospect to Dolphins DT Davon Godchaux.

  SOURCE: Justin Melo on TwitterApr 1, 2020, 12:43 PM ET

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

Don't sleep on Madubuike, he has been sold short by a lot of people. With good coaching he may end up being the best pure 3T in this class. 

I like him much better than Gallimore, who seems to be getting more media press because of the fast 40-time he ran at the combine.  Madubuike looks strong and is quick changing direction for a big man.  Gallimore is the opposite...  he can show some impressive burst upfield if he wins right away, but he looks like a limited straight-line rusher.  If the QB side steps or breaks the pocket, he's done... just my two cents after having watched a number of these guys in that next tier or two at this position.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

Don't sleep on Madubuike, he has been sold short by a lot of people. With good coaching he may end up being the best pure 3T in this class. 

I like him much better than Gallimore, who seems to be getting more media press because of the fast 40-time he ran at the combine.  Madubuike looks strong and is quick changing direction for a big man.  Gallimore is the opposite...  he can show some impressive burst upfield if he wins right away, but he looks like a limited straight-line rusher.  If the QB side steps or breaks the pocket, he's done... just my two cents after having watched a number of these guys in that next tier or two at this position.

Wait. I was on Madubuike early, then Maroon clued me in to Blacklock. Then BN had me looking at Gallimore and Davidson. And PFF is bonkers for Elliott. Daily Norseman keeps running mocks where simulators consistently have Kinlaw falling to 22. This DT Class has my head spinning!

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

Don't sleep on Madubuike, he has been sold short by a lot of people. With good coaching he may end up being the best pure 3T in this class. 

I like him much better than Gallimore, who seems to be getting more media press because of the fast 40-time he ran at the combine.  Madubuike looks strong and is quick changing direction for a big man.  Gallimore is the opposite...  he can show some impressive burst upfield if he wins right away, but he looks like a limited straight-line rusher.  If the QB side steps or breaks the pocket, he's done... just my two cents after having watched a number of these guys in that next tier or two at this position.

Gallimore's tape at Oklahoma isn't a very good basis for the type of player he could be in the NFL. They gap swap presnap at a crazy rate which limited his impacts at times. He's more agile on film than his 40 time suggests. But there are these odd instances where he literally doesn't know how to use his hands or opts for power in a fineness situation. So his rush awareness and hand usage is extremely concerning. I would have Madubuike above Gallimore by a healthy margin. 

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

Don't sleep on Madubuike, he has been sold short by a lot of people. With good coaching he may end up being the best pure 3T in this class. 

I like him much better than Gallimore, who seems to be getting more media press because of the fast 40-time he ran at the combine.  Madubuike looks strong and is quick changing direction for a big man.  Gallimore is the opposite...  he can show some impressive burst upfield if he wins right away, but he looks like a limited straight-line rusher.  If the QB side steps or breaks the pocket, he's done... just my two cents after having watched a number of these guys in that next tier or two at this position.

Gallimore's tape at Oklahoma isn't a very good basis for the type of player he could be in the NFL. They gap swap presnap at a crazy rate which limited his impacts at times. He's more agile on film than his 40 time suggests. But there are these odd instances where he literally doesn't know how to use his hands or opts for power in a fineness situation. So his rush awareness and hand usage is extremely concerning. I would have Madubuike above Gallimore by a healthy margin. 

This could be what I'm seeing...  his splash plays look really good, but there are too many instances where he uses power to get upfield in a hurry, but then the QB or RB can easily get around him and he takes himself completely out of the play. 

@"FSUVike" said: Wait. I was on Madubuike early, then Maroon clued me in to Blacklock. Then BN had me looking at Gallimore and Davidson. And PFF is bonkers for Elliott. Daily Norseman keeps running mocks where simulators consistently have Kinlaw falling to 22. This DT Class has my head spinning!

In my opinion: Brown >> Kinlaw >> (Talent Gap) >> Blacklock >> Madubuike (high upside) >> (Talent Gap) >> Davidon >> Gallimore >> Elliott (pass rushing specialist) 

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

Don't sleep on Madubuike, he has been sold short by a lot of people. With good coaching he may end up being the best pure 3T in this class. 

I like him much better than Gallimore, who seems to be getting more media press because of the fast 40-time he ran at the combine.  Madubuike looks strong and is quick changing direction for a big man.  Gallimore is the opposite...  he can show some impressive burst upfield if he wins right away, but he looks like a limited straight-line rusher.  If the QB side steps or breaks the pocket, he's done... just my two cents after having watched a number of these guys in that next tier or two at this position.

Gallimore's tape at Oklahoma isn't a very good basis for the type of player he could be in the NFL. They gap swap presnap at a crazy rate which limited his impacts at times. He's more agile on film than his 40 time suggests. But there are these odd instances where he literally doesn't know how to use his hands or opts for power in a fineness situation. So his rush awareness and hand usage is extremely concerning. I would have Madubuike above Gallimore by a healthy margin. 

This could be what I'm seeing...  his splash plays look really good, but there are too many instances where he uses power to get upfield in a hurry, but then the QB or RB can easily get around him and he takes himself completely out of the play. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

He needs NFL coaching and discipline, but I think his upside in two or three years is higher than Blacklock or Madubuike. I think that could appeal to both Zimmer and Patterson. If they don't want to mess with that and want a player who already has the kind of gap control and discipline (which is what they like about Shamar Stephen, btw), then they might like Blacklock and Madubuike more. But the best DT in that regard is probably Jordan Elliott.

I'm not sure that I agree with his upside being higher than Madubuike.  They both ran basically a 4.8 (Gallimore was a couple hundredths faster), but Madubuike blew him away in the 3-cone drill.  That quickness shows up on tape too...  and when you add in the fact that Madubuike has longer arms, I think the physical traits project more upside than Gallimore.

That said, what matters most is what the guy is made of inside...  and Gallimore reportedly is a blue collar guy with a strong work ethic.  If the Vikings address CB, WR, and OL with their early picks, he could be a good pick in the 3rd round.  Patterson worked wonders with a raw, athletic prospect that loved to work in Danielle Hunter.  He went later in the 3rd round as well.  Maybe he can do the same with Gallimore?  Bottom line, I wouldn't pay a premium pick to find out.  If he's there late Day 2, sure...  go for it. 

@"Wetlander" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

He needs NFL coaching and discipline, but I think his upside in two or three years is higher than Blacklock or Madubuike. I think that could appeal to both Zimmer and Patterson. If they don't want to mess with that and want a player who already has the kind of gap control and discipline (which is what they like about Shamar Stephen, btw), then they might like Blacklock and Madubuike more. But the best DT in that regard is probably Jordan Elliott.

I'm not sure that I agree with his upside being higher than Madubuike.  They both ran basically a 4.8 (Gallimore was a couple hundredths faster), but Madubuike blew him away in the 3-cone drill.  That quickness shows up on tape too...  and when you add in the fact that Madubuike has longer arms, I think the physical traits project more upside than Gallimore.

That said, what matters most is what the guy is made of inside...  and Gallimore reportedly is a blue collar guy with a strong work ethic.  If the Vikings address CB, WR, and OL with their early picks, he could be a good pick in the 3rd round.  Patterson worked wonders with a raw, athletic prospect that loved to work in Danielle Hunter.  He went later in the 3rd round as well.  Maybe he can do the same with Gallimore?  Bottom line, I wouldn't pay a premium pick to find out.  If he's there late Day 2, sure...  go for it. 

Good conversation with former #Utah interior defensive lineman Leki Fotu earlier today.

He talked about why he loves being the anchor of the defense along the interior so much: pic.twitter.com/wHoVlQT1in

— Jordan Reid (@Jordan_Reid) April 8, 2020

Love McTelvin Agim for the Steelers. Can be 0 technique and a true nose tackle up front. Great explosiveness and pass-rushing upside, will move out to a 3T on obvious passing downs. Would be great value in R4 and is the exact type of guy they need to secure the D-Line. pic.twitter.com/UrWzRJWpWL

— Nick Farabaugh (@FarabaughFB) April 8, 2020

Big fan Day 3

@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1248007919322320897

Big fan Day 3

LIke McTelvin a lot as well. 

Javon Kinlaw > Derrick Brown

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— PFF College (@PFF_College) April 9, 2020

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

He needs NFL coaching and discipline, but I think his upside in two or three years is higher than Blacklock or Madubuike. I think that could appeal to both Zimmer and Patterson. If they don't want to mess with that and want a player who already has the kind of gap control and discipline (which is what they like about Shamar Stephen, btw), then they might like Blacklock and Madubuike more. But the best DT in that regard is probably Jordan Elliott.

I'm not sure that I agree with his upside being higher than Madubuike.  They both ran basically a 4.8 (Gallimore was a couple hundredths faster), but Madubuike blew him away in the 3-cone drill.  That quickness shows up on tape too...  and when you add in the fact that Madubuike has longer arms, I think the physical traits project more upside than Gallimore.

That said, what matters most is what the guy is made of inside...  and Gallimore reportedly is a blue collar guy with a strong work ethic.  If the Vikings address CB, WR, and OL with their early picks, he could be a good pick in the 3rd round.  Patterson worked wonders with a raw, athletic prospect that loved to work in Danielle Hunter.  He went later in the 3rd round as well.  Maybe he can do the same with Gallimore?  Bottom line, I wouldn't pay a premium pick to find out.  If he's there late Day 2, sure...  go for it. 

Not just work ethic, but motor. He's relentless. Always. IMO, Gallimore's motor is best in class. Ahead of even Kinlaw. Way ahead of Brown.