Do We Have The ~ Market For Waynes?
i think. we end. up witha. third. round. comp. pick for waynes
They really want one of Trae/Mac back. If the market comes in closer to $10-$11M they likely will bring Trae back. But I don't think that will happen, he will top Roby's deal on the open market and think he could get closer to $14M.
@"Geoff Nichols" said: They really want one of Trae/Mac back. If the market comes in closer to $10-$11M they likely will bring Trae back. But I don't think that will happen, he will top Roby's deal on the open market and think he could get closer to $14M.I think it will be Mac. He'll be a lot cheaper. And they will give him the opportunity to be an outside corner. Of course, that will depend on who they draft.
@"MaroonBells" said:Man, that's by far my preference. And this from a guy who was predicting the Vikings would pick Waynes before anyone else (Wetlander lies notwithstanding). The same guy who likened the Alexander pick to making an indulgence pick after you've won the Super Bowl when the team had so many glaring needs on Offense.@"Geoff Nichols" said: They really want one of Trae/Mac back. If the market comes in closer to $10-$11M they likely will bring Trae back. But I don't think that will happen, he will top Roby's deal on the open market and think he could get closer to $14M. I think it will be Mac. He'll be a lot cheaper. And they will give him the opportunity to be an outside corner. Of course, that will depend on who they draft.After watching them both develop, and as an FSU alum I'm all about DBs, Mac grew farther, faster. The crux of the matter is how...He played Outside Corner at Clemsnon. With swagger, by the way. Trae was in one of those funky 'boundary corner' hybrid man/zone things only colleges do. With lightning speed and measurables. And looking better on tape when Scouts were supposed to be watching Dennard during Waynes sophomore year.
I get keeping Trae on the outside. I don't get drafting Alexander to play Slot. He's twitchy, that's his best asset IMO. But that plus being a little shorter doesn't automatically mean move him to Slot.
A lot of playing Outiside Corner is between the ears. Just like hitters in baseball. The game is designed for you to lose more than you win. So like Closers and Goalies and Golfers you have to learn to shut out the last mistake and focus on the current play. Cockiness is one tried and true way to shake off giving up a big play.
Mac Ax has always been about cockiness, swagger, getting in his opponent's grill. At Outside Corner. And Zimmer turned him into a slot CB, which is more about short area quickness and mirroring the opponent and feeling where the scrum you have to avoid is going to come from. It's just a different thing than playing Outside for a zillion reasons that are way better than this attempt to describe it.
I believe that Alexander was not happy being cast as a Slot CB. It didn't play to his strengths. But after some fits and starts on and off the field he got pretty good at it. That doesn't mean he wants to keep doing it. For less than what the good Outside CBs get. And I'm sure he's always thought of himself as as a good to great Outside Corner on the League.
The likelihood of him staying in Minnesota at Slot CB is nearly zero IMO. And he'll definitely test whatever market there is for him at Outside CB. If there is one, he's gone. And that's a damn shame, but I certainly wouldn't blame him for wanting to start on the Outside for someone who believes he can more than Zimmer ever showed.
Do you think that Alexander would want to come back? I thought there were rumors that he wanted to test the market, so I do worry that we could lose both Waynes and Alexander along with Rhodes already.
So, by calling him out for calling someone else out, did I just perpetuate what I wanted to mitigate?
@"BarrNone55" said: @FSUVike Wetlander lies? Maybe take things down a notch? Calling a respected member of the board a liar isn't a great look.I'm pretty sure FSU was just poking fun at me... lol
He can "believe" that he was the first to be on Waynes as our pick, but honest message board historians will remember that I was the first one to call the Vikings drafting Trae Waynes early that offseason. But in his defense, FSU was on it pretty quick as well.
I think him and I were the two that predicted we would take him over Peters, but he won the Draft Challenge because I think I had us trading back to draft him and he had the Vikings taking him at their original pick (which did happen).
Same with Aaron Donald... I think I was the first one to bring him up as a draft steal that offseason (when he was being projected as a mid-round pick by the media in January), but Maroon was even more bullish than me on him so I'll give him credit for Donald.
Wetlander went back and edited the Board's history. Otherwise it would would show that I, Florida State University Viking (my birth certificate was very long), was on the Waynes bandwagon first.
What's next? Maroon and BigTDs are going to claim they were first on the Teddy Train? ;)
I would like to thank Wetlander for pointing out that I won the inaugural Draft Challenge with such authority that there was really no point in ever having another ;)
Look, things are grim but I shouldn't have to use the wink emoji every time I'm being sarcastic. Let's keep the mood light as we perfect our Social Distancing skills.
Ah crap---he sits on the board ya know how that works
Wants to win an argument on who first slobbered over some guy---booom goes back deletes a few posts/edits for wink wink accuracy and all of a sudden he's a gawd darn savant
@"Akvike" said: Ah crap---he sits on the board ya know how that worksWants to win an argument on who first slobbered over some guy---booom goes back deletes a few posts/edits for wink wink accuracy and all of a sudden he's a gawd darn savant
I gotta admit I lol'd on that one. Well done, sir!
Can I at least lay claim to being the first to slobber all over Kinlaw?
Folks, silly season has arrived. Some very Average to downright Shitty Players are going to get paid big money. Trae included.
@"Tyr" said: Has there been any word on Alexander?I've heard nothing on him. Slot market hasn't really taken off yet. Would imagine Chris Harris and Logan Ryan will go first.
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