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I believe Sling has NFL Network...

i'm starting to find having one machine dedicated to e-herpes working the best for me...

sling

Sling, but then you have no Regional Sports Networks.  I dumped Sling last fall for YouTubeTV so I could still watch the Twins and Wild.  Do I miss NFL network?   Not one bit. :)

@"HappyViking" said: Sling, but then you have no Regional Sports Networks.  I dumped Sling last fall for YouTubeTV so I could still watch the Twins and Wild.  Do I miss NFL network?   Not one bit. :)

I have an antenna for local channels...that I never watch. And I never watch regional sports either. Thinking about Sling but the only channel I would watch would be NFLN. And that only for Path to the Draft and the draft itself. Is that worth $30 a month? Thinking not. Could probably find everything I need online, between Youtube and other things. And if I remember right, you can pretty much "watch" the draft on NFL.com or ESPN.com. I think I'll go with status quo and re-evaluate come football season. 

I have YoutubeTV and it's great.
What it doesn't have:
NFL Network :'( 5.1 Surround Sound :'( History ChannelPBS (though your market might have this)MTV/Nickelodeon/other channels I don't miss
What it does have:
Basically every other sports channelEvery other channel I'd wantUnlimited DVR with fast forwarding
Great free VOD options for shows and movies that have aired recently, though these may have ads

No NFL Network and 5.1 sound hurts. But everything else YTTV offers is worth it to me for $50/month. About half of TNF games are aired on Fox/Amazon/Twitter. For the other half it's bars or streaming sites.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"HappyViking" said: Sling, but then you have no Regional Sports Networks.  I dumped Sling last fall for YouTubeTV so I could still watch the Twins and Wild.  Do I miss NFL network?   Not one bit. :)

I have an antenna for local channels...that I never watch. And I never watch regional sports either. Thinking about Sling but the only channel I would watch would be NFLN. And that only for Path to the Draft and the draft itself. Is that worth $30 a month? Thinking not. Could probably find everything I need online, between Youtube and other things. And if I remember right, you can pretty much "watch" the draft on NFL.com or ESPN.com. I think I'll go with status quo and re-evaluate come football season. 

i just read that FOX regional sports channels (FSN North) will be leaving you tube TV soon over a contract issue.

@"JimmyinSD" said: i just read that FOX regional sports channels (FSN North) will be leaving you tube TV soon over a contract issue.

I believe they are still negotiating, but a deal has been reached for a short-term extension (they haven't said how long). So there's hope on this front.

"Any cordcutters / streamers found a way to get NFL Network? I had PSV but that went away at the end of January."

I have had FuboTv for a year or so.  It includes NFL Network and lots of other sport....If interested here is a link. 

https://www.fubo.tv/welcome

I think YouTubeTV will get a "real" agreement.  They sent out the email notice they were ditching Regional Sports and I'm guessing the uproar the customers made was loud enough to at least agree to a short term deal on Saturday.  If the longer term deal falls through, I'll be switching to Hulu.

@"HappyViking" said: I think YouTubeTV will get a "real" agreement.  They sent out the email notice they were ditching Regional Sports and I'm guessing the uproar the customers made was loud enough to at least agree to a short term deal on Saturday.  If the longer term deal falls through, I'll be switching to Hulu.

I dont know about the rest of the country,  but for me FSN North is watched more than most of the major networks in my house.  With the Twins, Wolves, and Wild all on there its year round almost nightly entertainment.   Last night we had the Wolves on one FSNN channel and the Wild on the other switching back and forth.  And not having the Twins would be a deal breaker for me for sure.

FoxSports (Sinclair) balked* immediately after Youtube put out a public statement saying the two sides couldn't come to an agreement. 

YouTube is a fascinating business - YTV seems like YouTube Red on a grander scale - and there are a lot of channels on basic YouTube that don't need any of that supplemental contracted-for-content income beyond what GoogleAds revenue (and sponsorships) generate. The top of YouTube content creators make ridiculous bank.

I think it's confusing to think of Networks asking providers to pay them for rights for their channel and contrast that with the likes of Mr.Beasts or Pewdiepies generating insane amounts of money with content they create on their own expense and profit.

I think maybe FoxSports North should take whatever they are offered from YouTube to be apart of their TV/Sub service because they're probably not all that far off from making content and revenue the same way the likes of the Mr.Beasts and Pewdiepies are - off the profit they generate their own expense. At some point, the revenue generated by millions and millions of clicks and views generated by free viewers will surpass the revenue generated by backend contracts and deals in exchange for the right to air. Especially major brands like the NFL or MLB.

(*edit: bulked, lol!)

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"HappyViking" said: I think YouTubeTV will get a "real" agreement.  They sent out the email notice they were ditching Regional Sports and I'm guessing the uproar the customers made was loud enough to at least agree to a short term deal on Saturday.  If the longer term deal falls through, I'll be switching to Hulu.

I dont know about the rest of the country,  but for me FSN North is watched more than most of the major networks in my house.  With the Twins, Wolves, and Wild all on there its year round almost nightly entertainment.   Last night we had the Wolves on one FSNN channel and the Wild on the other switching back and forth.  And not having the Twins would be a deal breaker for me for sure.