Paton To Interview With The Browns...Maybe...Probably
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Could be a sign that Zygi and Mark dont want to lose this guy. I still believe he's the successor to RS - question is how long will RS be here? He's 57 now, so not that old yet.
Well if he's as smart as everyone seems to think he is, then maybe he's smart enough to realize that working for Jimmy Haslam might be career suicide.
The good need is if you hate Spielman and want Paton you can wait a year or two and he’ll be availible.
Hate to lose home-grown talent...Especially with the trophy case still collecting cob-webs.
I dont like losing him cause I can't believe RS is going to do this another 3-4 years either. Maybe I got the wrong bead on his time-line though.
Anyone else find it funny that Paton bypassed many opportunities, but this is the one he takes? Is there worse ownership in the NFL? Odd move.
@"BarrNone55" said: Anyone else find it funny that Paton bypassed many opportunities, but this is the one he takes? Is there worse ownership in the NFL? Odd move.Worse would be Dan Snyder but Haslam has a lock on 2nd place. If Paton is so smart I wonder why he's willing to do this, especially when DePodesta is going to sit in SoCal calling shots?
Then again maybe he is ready to take any opportunity to get out from under RS and Zygmunt who haven't exactly built a championship culture here in their 16 years at the wheel.
@"BarrNone55" said: Anyone else find it funny that Paton bypassed many opportunities, but this is the one he takes? Is there worse ownership in the NFL? Odd move.Could that mean that he knows that Rick will be extended and he took his chance while he could?
@"comet52" said:@"BarrNone55" said: Anyone else find it funny that Paton bypassed many opportunities, but this is the one he takes? Is there worse ownership in the NFL? Odd move. Worse would be Dan Snyder but Haslam has a lock on 2nd place. If Paton is so smart I wonder why he's willing to do this, especially when DePodesta is going to sit in SoCal calling shots?Then again maybe he is ready to take any opportunity to get out from under RS and Zygmunt who haven't exactly built a championship culture here in their 16 years at the wheel.
Danny is a bit more...loyal...tolerant...
@"Canthony" said: I would rather lose Rick over Paton to be honest.You know enough of their division of responsibility, management styles, and the personnel decisions each made to actually state a preference? I didn't think so. But make no mistake, Paton is a highly sought after exec for one reason: Rick Spielman.
@"comet52" said:@"BarrNone55" said: Anyone else find it funny that Paton bypassed many opportunities, but this is the one he takes? Is there worse ownership in the NFL? Odd move. Worse would be Dan Snyder but Haslam has a lock on 2nd place. If Paton is so smart I wonder why he's willing to do this, especially when DePodesta is going to sit in SoCal calling shots?Then again maybe he is ready to take any opportunity to get out from under RS and Zygmunt who haven't exactly built a championship culture here in their 16 years at the wheel.
Other then the Patriots what team has built a "Championship Culture" and to your detriment Rick has been in charge as GM since 2012 and the Wilfs bought the team in 2005 and have a 126-112 record. That is including changing 4 coaches in a 15 year period. Prior to that 7 coaches from 1961 to 2004. To say they have not been actively trying to bring a champion is ludicrous.
@"Ralphie" said:Paton interviewed for GM openings with San Francisco and Indianapolis in 2017 but lost out on both occasions.
That's rich. The guy we want to promote and fire our own GM for was interviewed and rejected by the very team that kicked our ass in the playoffs 2 years later.
@"BlackMagic7" said:@"Ralphie" said:Paton interviewed for GM openings with San Francisco and Indianapolis in 2017 but lost out on both occasions.That's rich. The guy we want to promote and fire our own GM for was interviewed and rejected by the very team that kicked our ass in the playoffs 2 years later.
Who's "WE"?
@"MaroonBells" said:@"BlackMagic7" said:@"Ralphie" said:Paton interviewed for GM openings with San Francisco and Indianapolis in 2017 but lost out on both occasions.That's rich. The guy we want to promote and fire our own GM for was interviewed and rejected by the very team that kicked our ass in the playoffs 2 years later.
Who's "WE"?![]()
@"mjollnir_k" said:@"comet52" said:@"BarrNone55" said: Anyone else find it funny that Paton bypassed many opportunities, but this is the one he takes? Is there worse ownership in the NFL? Odd move. Worse would be Dan Snyder but Haslam has a lock on 2nd place. If Paton is so smart I wonder why he's willing to do this, especially when DePodesta is going to sit in SoCal calling shots?Then again maybe he is ready to take any opportunity to get out from under RS and Zygmunt who haven't exactly built a championship culture here in their 16 years at the wheel.
Other then the Patriots what team has built a "Championship Culture" and to your detriment Rick has been in charge as GM since 2012 and the Wilfs bought the team in 2005 and have a 126-112 record. That is including changing 4 coaches in a 15 year period. Prior to that 7 coaches from 1961 to 2004. To say they have not been actively trying to bring a champion is ludicrous.
'To my detriment Rick has been in charge'... I can't even make sense of that sentence.. a middle of the road record and a bunch of coaches means what to me, exactly? Watching other teams find ways to get to and win Super Bowls while the Vikings fiddle around annoys me. You know what matters? Not building buildings, not fiddling around with coaches, not the p.r. about how much they care blah blah blah, not a middle of the road record. What matters is having a real shot at winning it and I'd say once in 16 years when they rented the last gasp of Brett Favre was that a possibility.But yeah I get it. I point out that we're mostly sucking air for 16 years under Wilf and there is always some guy getting huffy about it, because boy it's so great around here in purple town! If I hadn't been watching other teams win it all for the last 50 years I might agree with you pal.
@"comet52" said:Point that flew right over your head was Spielman and the Wilfs were not in the position to effect the team 16 years ago, so your statement make no sense from the start. And while I am at the point of Rick and Mike are not the answer I have yet to see anybody that is. See the Les experiments do not sit well with me, Childress well the really good year with him was due more to the last gasp QB. Your claim of saying the Wilfs have not exactly built a championship culture is what set me off. They have changed more coaches then any other owner, They have also invested more in the team and every position of the team then any other owner. The fact that it has not produce a Super Bowl is testament to how hard the achievement is, not the idiocy of the front office. Face it they are playing chess while the wannabe GM on here are barely able to play checkers.@"mjollnir_k" said:@"comet52" said:@"BarrNone55" said: Anyone else find it funny that Paton bypassed many opportunities, but this is the one he takes? Is there worse ownership in the NFL? Odd move. Worse would be Dan Snyder but Haslam has a lock on 2nd place. If Paton is so smart I wonder why he's willing to do this, especially when DePodesta is going to sit in SoCal calling shots?Then again maybe he is ready to take any opportunity to get out from under RS and Zygmunt who haven't exactly built a championship culture here in their 16 years at the wheel.
Other then the Patriots what team has built a "Championship Culture" and to your detriment Rick has been in charge as GM since 2012 and the Wilfs bought the team in 2005 and have a 126-112 record. That is including changing 4 coaches in a 15 year period. Prior to that 7 coaches from 1961 to 2004. To say they have not been actively trying to bring a champion is ludicrous.
'To my detriment Rick has been in charge'... I can't even make sense of that sentence.. a middle of the road record and a bunch of coaches means what to me, exactly? Watching other teams find ways to get to and win Super Bowls while the Vikings fiddle around annoys me. You know what matters? Not building buildings, not fiddling around with coaches, not the p.r. about how much they care blah blah blah, not a middle of the road record. What matters is having a real shot at winning it and I'd say once in 16 years when they rented the last gasp of Brett Favre was that a possibility.But yeah I get it. I point out that we're mostly sucking air for 16 years under Wilf and there is always some guy getting huffy about it, because boy it's so great around here in purple town! If I hadn't been watching other teams win it all for the last 50 years I might agree with you pal.
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