Where There's Smoke

Not on board with this...

@"purplefaithful" said: Not on board with this...

I would not be shocked.

Use the Tampa/Gruden trade as a starting point - two firsts, two seconds, 8 million cash.   =)      There was also Jets paying Pats a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th for Parcells who took Belichick with him to NY.     And finally Belichick himself left those Jets to go to NE for a 1st, 4th and 7th, with the Jets also giving NE a 5th and 7th.   However at the time his record was that of failing in Cleveland and being the worst podium curmudgeon in the NFL who alienated everyone including the fans, which remains true to this day except for NE fans.   So he didn't command a haul at the time but a 1st was still in the mix.  

Practically speaking, we'd need to keep Spielman around to make any trade of Zimmer happen right?
If that were to happen, I'm doubtful the Wilfs would turn around and fire Spielman a day later so that they can do a full rebuild. Maybe, but I doubt it. I think if a trade goes down then it means Spielman is safe... which I think I'm fine with.

I would not be surprised if the organization did not see something like this potentially coming down the pipe and its one of the reasons Kubiak was brought on board. I think if Zimmer decides he wants out to go to Dallas the organization has someone they can slide into that position who is a Super Bowl winning coach and has been successful in the past. I'm guessing Stefanski is a goner so it makes sense keeping the offensive system in place by handing the reigns over to Kubiak and not going through a complete overhaul.

With all this said, lets go kick New Orleans ass on Sunday!!!

@"supafreak84" said: I would not be surprised if the organization did not see something like this potentially coming down the pipe and its one of the reasons Kubiak was brought on board. I think if Zimmer decides he wants out to go to Dallas the organization has someone they can slide into that position who is a Super Bowl winning coach and has been successful in the past. I'm guessing Stefanski is a goner so it makes sense keeping the offensive system in place by handing the reigns over to Kubiak and not going through a complete overhaul.

With all this said, lets go kick New Orleans ass on Sunday!!!

@"comet52" said:

@"supafreak84" said: I would not be surprised if the organization did not see something like this potentially coming down the pipe and its one of the reasons Kubiak was brought on board. I think if Zimmer decides he wants out to go to Dallas the organization has someone they can slide into that position who is a Super Bowl winning coach and has been successful in the past. I'm guessing Stefanski is a goner so it makes sense keeping the offensive system in place by handing the reigns over to Kubiak and not going through a complete overhaul.

With all this said, lets go kick New Orleans ass on Sunday!!!

If Kubiak hadn't repeatedly said he will not take another HC gig for health reasons, that might be possible.

@"Watcher" said:

I think it more likely that they would make Stefanski head coach and keep Kubiak in the same role he's in now.

@"purpleloki" said:

@"Watcher" said:

I think it more likely that they would make Stefanski head coach and keep Kubiak in the same role he's in now.

And bring Shurmur back as OC?

@"kmillard" said:

@"purpleloki" said:

@"Watcher" said:

I think it more likely that they would make Stefanski head coach and keep Kubiak in the same role he's in now.

And bring Shurmur back as OC?

I think young kubiak would take the job.

Of course there's fire. The fire is in Jerry's belly over Zimmer. I don't think there's any doubt about that.

The question is about whether Zimmer will be available. Win or lose Sunday, the Vikings would be fools for firing him when they could likely get a draft pick or two for him. The less they appear willing to lose Zimmer, the more they can get for him.

Is there a draft package that would be too tempting for the Vikings given how much they like Stefanski? Maybe so. And how do we know Mike isn't tired of Manny's and Minnetonkas? I would be surprised by that given how much he's got going on there, but I don't know what he thinks about Dallas and Jerry. Maybe he put a bug in Rick's ear, considering he's got to be fully aware how much the team wants to keep Stef. 

@"pattersaur" said:

Practically speaking, we'd need to keep Spielman around to make any trade of Zimmer happen right? If that were to happen, I'm doubtful the Wilfs would turn around and fire Spielman a day later so that they can do a full rebuild. Maybe, but I doubt it. I think if a trade goes down then it means Spielman is safe... which I think I'm fine with.