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Kudos to Brian O'Neill

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#1 · Dec 20, 5:16 PM
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@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NickOlsonNFL/status/1208091381916409862?s=19
Why PFF suckshttps://twitter.com/NickOlsonNFL/status/1208101837720690694

Not to say O'Neill hasn't been great, but PFF has no idea when it comes to line play.

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#2 · Dec 20, 5:31 PM
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@"greediron" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NickOlsonNFL/status/1208091381916409862?s=19
Not to say O'Neill hasn't been great, but PFF has no idea when it comes to line play.



I wouldn't go that far. But they definitely need to tighten up their OL evals. 

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#3 · Dec 20, 6:03 PM
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The 32 Front Offices in the League do not agree with you, Greediron.

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#4 · Dec 21, 12:17 PM
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@"FSUVike" said: The 32 Front Offices in the League do not agree with you, Greediron.
You work for 32 league offices? The tweet comments show O'Neill getting beat for a sack, but they attributed it to the guard that was engaged with someone else. Point is, they boast that O'Neill hasn't given up a sack, but nobody that watches the games would actually make that assertion.  And I doubt his coaches do either.
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NickOlsonNFL/status/1208091381916409862?s=19
Not to say O'Neill hasn't been great, but PFF has no idea when it comes to line play.



I wouldn't go that far. But they definitely need to tighten up their OL evals. 


Hyperbole for the hyperbole.

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#6 · Dec 21, 5:23 PM
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And he's only going to get better. 

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#7 · Dec 22, 7:58 AM
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Man, I've never been more wrong on a guy. He's been a high caliber starter since inserted into the lineup.

As far as PFF goes, I have always maintained that unless they know the play called and who was responsible for what, it's just guessing when grading the OL.

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#8 · Dec 22, 9:41 AM
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Every single FO uses PFF. I never claimed it's perfect. There's no such thing. It is the best analytics tool out there. Which you then combine with scouting and other factors,

Like anything new the first iteration will end up looking archaic in the future.

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#9 · Dec 22, 12:03 PM
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@"FSUVike" said: Every single FO uses PFF. I never claimed it's perfect. There's no such thing. It is the best analytics tool out there. Which you then combine with scouting and other factors,

Like anything new the first iteration will end up looking archaic in the future.


I know they use it as one of many tools.  It has value.  But when the media uses it to promote falsehoods, it is just stupid.  O'Neill is better than any of us here could have imagined, but the "0 sacks" just isn't true.

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#10 · Dec 23, 9:30 AM
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Well we can officially put that pff falsehood to bed

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